Screaming Trees Best Album Poll

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yeah, I've been doing this and have been pretty stoked. All of the SST stuff never sounded quite right together on Anthology, which I had as a kid, but now that I'm listening to EIAEW and Buzz Factory it just sounds perfect. Definitely need to hear the rest.

Surprisingly, I've never heard the Epic stuff either except for Nearly Lost You.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 30 April 2009 12:47 (seventeen years ago)

there's some really good songs that weren't on the SST Anthology album.
The 3 albums on Epic are awesome. They really did get better as they went on, and the last 2 were perfection IMO. They really went out on top.
Would love them to reform as Lanegan still does excellent solo stuff and Valis were pretty good (there's a new Valis album out btw)

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 30 April 2009 14:03 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.myspace.com/valis

Band Website http://www.valisrocks.com
Band Members Van Conner - Vocals, Lead Guitar (Screaming Trees, Solomon Grundy, Musk Ox)

Patrick Conner - Lead Guitar, Vocals (Kitty Kitty, Kittitas, Musk Ox)

Adrian Makins - (Master Blaster, Musk Ox, Kitty Kitty) Bass, Vocals

Sean Hollister (King Krab, Solomon Grundy, Screaming Trees)- Drums

Wes Weresch (Ring, The Western Trio)- Trip

Former members:
Kurt Danielson - Bass (1996-2002) (TAD, Bundle of Hiss)
Dan Peters - Drums (1996-1998) (Mudhoney, Bundle of Hiss)

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 30 April 2009 14:05 (seventeen years ago)

I forget what Gary Lee Conner is upto these days

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 30 April 2009 14:06 (seventeen years ago)

Gary Lee Conner (born Lee Gary Conner on August 22, 1962 in Fort Irwin, California, USA) was the lead guitarist for grunge music act Screaming Trees, along with his brother Van, who was the band's bassist. In addition to his work with the Screaming Trees, Conner was featured on Ball-Hog or Tugboat, a 1995 album from Mike Watt. In 1999, he released a 7" EP on the Sub Pop entitled Grasshopper's Daydream/Behind The Smile; this album also featured Josh Homme from Queens of the Stone Age, Brother Van Conner of VALIS (band) and Former Screaming Trees Drummer Mark Pickerel. In 2004, Conner started up a new music project called Amanita Caterpillar. His other band of the past with brother Van Conner was called The Purple Outside.

Conner currently lives in San Angelo, Texas with his wife Janet and daughter Juliana. He also works as a newspaper courier.

I thought he'd be a bit old to be a paper boy ;)

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 2 May 2009 17:22 (seventeen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Monday, 4 May 2009 23:01 (seventeen years ago)

I voted Sweet Oblivion. "Dollar Bill" is such a great song. They were great at that folk rock acoustic opening turning into a rock snarl down pretty well. The closer "Julie Paradise" pulls something similar, but the end is just wah-wah heaven.

I should pick up copies of those last three albums again; I sold mine in the great grunge purge in the mid 90s.

dulce est desipere in loco (Euler), Tuesday, 5 May 2009 01:33 (seventeen years ago)

yes you should!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 5 May 2009 12:35 (seventeen years ago)

last hour to vote

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 5 May 2009 22:04 (seventeen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Tuesday, 5 May 2009 23:01 (seventeen years ago)

whoa! Dust should be no2! Did everyone think others would vote for it?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 5 May 2009 23:04 (seventeen years ago)

You do know you vote for your favorite, right? This isn't "Rank'em Top To Bottom." I laugh every time I see that reaction - "My second/third/nth favorite should have done better! But I, like everyone else, voted for my absolute favorite!"

Sorry, you don't deserve that pissy response. Just think it is funny that it happens every time. Dust is a great album, but obviously not too many people's #1 pick.

I'm just glad to see that all have partisans.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 5 May 2009 23:34 (seventeen years ago)

It's not that at all, it's just Dust got the most mentions by people in the thread AND most fans reckon it's their best album, and critics also agree with that, so I'm surprised it wasnt first or second.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 11:20 (seventeen years ago)

there's different schools of trees fans though, aren't there? and for those who love the Epic-era, I think SweetOblivion is their most substantial, their best album. The SST era is more scattered, so SST acolytes chose around the catalogue. To be honest, I'm amazed as many voted as did. Glady so, though.

Neither have you tasted my Jesus (stevie), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 11:57 (seventeen years ago)

I'm amazed that Sweet Oblivion got so many votes; it must be a zeitgeist thing because to me it's their most boring album. Yeah it's got Nearly Lost You on it, but for the life of me I can't remember any other tune (aside from Dollar Bill, which I'm not a big fan of).

MacDara, Wednesday, 6 May 2009 12:40 (seventeen years ago)

i have a soft spot for dust mainly because i recall how it really seemed to fall under the radar on its release, despite overwhelmingly positive reviews. i loved it from the day i picked it up all those years ago, and even though it's perhaps a little tame and underpowered in parts, i think it really holds together well.

that said, sweet oblivion will always be my favourite. i listened to this constantly along with other seminal seattle records released around the same time, and i'll always associate it with the singular expressions of its era.

Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 6 May 2009 13:03 (seventeen years ago)

Went with Sweet Oblivion, best (singalong)songs + epic Connertronics + sweet nostalgia.

Coincidentally, the debut is today's album of the day at allmusic.

willem, Thursday, 7 May 2009 12:26 (seventeen years ago)

three months pass...

"epic Connertronics" is right! Listening to "Julie Paradise" again and at about 2:50 in: what's the name of that effect, the one that could be called a wah-wah but also sounds like it has some chorus going on? Is this a standard pedal or something the band put together? Because it sounds great, that swirling roar.

deep olives (Euler), Friday, 7 August 2009 14:58 (sixteen years ago)

Julie Paradise is my go-to track on this disc

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 7 August 2009 17:26 (sixteen years ago)

i has a bitchen 10 minute version from a bootleg somewhere...

Stoked for DinoWaco! (stevie), Friday, 7 August 2009 19:44 (sixteen years ago)

one year passes...

Their final recordings (1998-1999) will be released in August. No reunion.

http://easystreetonline.com/blog/5268/new-screaming-trees-album-out-in-august

StanM, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 15:13 (fourteen years ago)

pretty fuckin excited to hear this.

his name was rony. rony from my cage. (stevie), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 15:24 (fourteen years ago)

weird. i'm surprised by the amount of enthusiasm and expertise on display itt, though i don't know why i should be. 75 responses to this poll, which must make the screaming trees something of a minor ILM favorite, though seldom discussed.

have mixed feelings about the trees cuz i was at one time something of a fan, despite lanegan reservations and the fact that they never made a record i 100% loved all the way through. i guess they suffered in my mind for being better than das damen, but 2nd to the likes of the meat puppets and dino jr, damned with not-so-faint praise. even if and especially when is my favorite (or was, haven't heard it in ages), with buzz factory a good close second, both more for certain songs than front-to-back perfection. was a sucker for the tough punk edge and spaceflower hippie lyrics on shit like "straight out to anyplace" and "the pathway":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RelQCJmssHk

this was (and still is!) my favorite tho:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLWLLrjaAzw

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 15:55 (fourteen years ago)

Even If And Especially When is such an SST title that when someone namechecks it, I usually assume that it's by Black Flag or the Minutemen.

kkvgz, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 16:00 (fourteen years ago)

or fIREHOSE

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 16:02 (fourteen years ago)

^

kkvgz, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 16:03 (fourteen years ago)

What it reminds me most of is "I won't stick any of you unless and until I can stick all of you."

kkvgz, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 16:05 (fourteen years ago)

one month passes...

Enjoying the Last Words: The Final Recordings. However, back in the 90s, I could have sworn I heard they recorded an album before Dust that was rejected by the label, and that was the "lost album." Was I confused, and it's only these later sessions?

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 5 August 2011 19:47 (fourteen years ago)

these are the sessions from the album they intended to make after dust, but yeah, i think you're right and there was another album rejected between sweet ovlivion and dust.

i'm not a lawyer, but i play one on a messageboard (stevie), Saturday, 6 August 2011 08:29 (fourteen years ago)

would purchase the penultimate recordings, if they released it.

i'm not a lawyer, but i play one on a messageboard (stevie), Saturday, 6 August 2011 08:29 (fourteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

How did Dust poll so low?! Although to be fair I don't know much of their other work, and came to them via Dust.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:09 (fourteen years ago)

bizarrely low

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:13 (fourteen years ago)

i love their SST output, bought Anthology as a teen from mailorder SST catalog that came with i think You're Living All Over Me. Only recently have I been trying to track down all the originals on vinyl. I think Invisible Lantern is my fav. Not such a fan of the 90s stuff, kinda like Sonic Youth 90's vs. 80's where the 90's major label stuff seems less murky/mysterious/lo-fi/intangible to me but that's probably down to my not being old enough/around when the early stuff was new.

bluelips, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:22 (fourteen years ago)

"new" album is fuckin awesome.

low content wine racing (stevie), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:39 (fourteen years ago)

sweey obliv remains my favourite, love the sst stuff, but have always been cold on uncle anaesthesia

low content wine racing (stevie), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:39 (fourteen years ago)

Surprised that "Dust" polled so low.

I am super gay for Lanegan.

thirdalternative, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:10 (fourteen years ago)

one year passes...

Commute this morning was fueled by Invisible Lantern. what a great album, song after song of good material...even the terrible production job sounded good. Still love these dudes.

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 18:55 (thirteen years ago)

their SST stuff is so so rad.

"Hahahaha, nice one, Punchy," I said. (stevie), Thursday, 22 November 2012 09:09 (thirteen years ago)

three years pass...

Man. I fucking missed out on this band like crazy the first time around; recently bought Invisible Lantern (on SST) and it's so fucking good. Like you can hear that Pacific Northwest pre-grunge thing but they have such a cool sound, integrating 60s psych/garage influences so well.

Arch Godliness of Purplefull Magic (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 7 May 2016 21:26 (ten years ago)

yeah, amazing record. no fluke neither. even if and especially when & buzz factory are right up there with it. never liked the epic albums anywhere near so much as those 3.

great (& kinda silly) track from the beat happening split:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnZXEAGTA9I

Francis Ford Cupola (contenderizer), Saturday, 7 May 2016 22:46 (ten years ago)

lol i posted the exact same track 4 years ago. listen with new ears!

Francis Ford Cupola (contenderizer), Saturday, 7 May 2016 22:47 (ten years ago)

Awesome, kind of a 13th Floor Elevators pastiche (until the chorus).

Arch Godliness of Purplefull Magic (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 7 May 2016 22:58 (ten years ago)

troo. and i recant of what i said 4 years back: they suffered in my mind for being better than das damen, but 2nd to the likes of the meat puppets and dino jr.

bosh. they don't suffer at all in that comparison.

Francis Ford Cupola (contenderizer), Sunday, 8 May 2016 00:13 (ten years ago)

That entire Beat Happening/Screaming Trees EP is pretty great, though Polly is my favorite track from it. What a weird idea for a record.

dlp9001, Sunday, 8 May 2016 01:41 (ten years ago)

I don't think they're anywhere near as idiosyncratic and as interesting as the Meat Puppets (80s)...Black Flag, maybe

90s Meat Pups maybe better...but not the 80s stuff

Master of Treacle, Sunday, 8 May 2016 01:41 (ten years ago)

... Maybe a better comparison I mean xp

Master of Treacle, Sunday, 8 May 2016 01:41 (ten years ago)

Change Has Come EP (1989) is an important record too, and how do you all rate Last Words, recorded around '98? I'm surprised the other lost album never surfaced. I'd be much more excited for a reunion of this band than say, Soundgarden.

Fastnbulbous, Sunday, 8 May 2016 02:15 (ten years ago)

Find it v weird that they couldn't get a deal after Dust tbh

Master of Treacle, Sunday, 8 May 2016 02:26 (ten years ago)

Soundgarden are apparently recording a new album atm, news to me too

albvivertine, Sunday, 8 May 2016 05:39 (ten years ago)

It seems really weird that Lanegan working with Queens of the Stone Age never seemed to bring people around to this band, cause a reunion, etc.

Arch Godliness of Purplefull Magic (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 8 May 2016 07:13 (ten years ago)


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