will noisey have moved forward, done the work and fought like fuck?

not surprised that half the articles on noisey still white pseudo punk rockers w no convictions or aims beyond getting wasted

i suppose Chicago doesn't really have much political stuff to talk about these days...

is that a ref to a particular article or is noisey chicago-biased iyo

the Orwells (linked above) are from Chicago

they've always seemed like idiots. thought they'd grow up eventually...

ah

https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/gangbangers-and-guitars-how-music-is-keeping-people-from-going-back-to-prison

Fred Durst said of his own band's sound that "I know y'all be loving this shit right here" and the people did. They truly did love that shit. Let's all put on our caps, tilt them backwards, and reminisce on the glory days.

https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/limp-bizkit-were-once-so-powerful-they-almost-made-slayers-kerry-king-quit-music

Phil is a nu-metal archivist.

It's a dirty job and nobody had to do it.

It's funny, every time I think people could not be any less interested in nu-metal in 2017, I come across someone who is really into Korn or Papa Roach or something and is continuing to follow 'em. It surprises me because even at the time I thought it'd be a passing fad that would be over within a few years and it wasn't surprised at all when that turned out to be the case, but also because I never expected the appeal of these bands to last beyond people's teenage years.

Papa Roach AFAIC passed into cool territory the other day with their Twitter responses to the fake Paul Ryan story after the failed health care vote. Couldn't give a care for their music but they're obviously in the right place headspace-wise.

Korn's impact on metal I can acknowledge without thinking anything more about them.

Deftones were always the nu metal band it was ok to like

I'd put System of a Down in that category, too.

Poll Closing Date: Monday, November 2, 2020 7:00 PM (in 3 years)

never expected the appeal of these bands to last beyond people's teenage years.

tbf ~95% of people tend to just listen to stuff they loved during their teenage years

the fake Paul Ryan story

aww what that wasn't real?!? i should have known it was too good to be true

https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/a-look-into-the-musical-career-of-republican-lawmaker-and-alleged-red-pill-founder-robert-fisher

nothing screaming fighting the power like devoting front page real estate to in-depth reviews of everything the Red Pill guy recorded

Noisey, an online descendant of Creem with the Oral Roberts dropout Eric Sundermann as its Dave Marsh, the brash punk Dan Ozzi its Lester Bangs, and the extreme-metal feminist Kim Kelly its Jaan Uhelszki.

lmao ok xgau

we should all be virtue signaling more i guess. also swearing

i like kim kelly

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/chelsea-tattoo-no-regrets

this guy got tattoos of Hillary and Chelsea. what you YOU done?

what have YOU done?, even

i like kim kelly

she ended up being one of my favourite characters on freaks and geeks

Smith said he's hopes to get a Bill tattoo to complete the trilogy ("might as well get 'em all, right?" he said) but for now he only has portraits of Hillary, Chelsea, and, uh, Howard Stern. "I'm a fan and longtime supporter of him" he told me. "Howard is a longtime Hillary supporter, too, by the way."

seems like a cool guy

kim is good i'm mostly indicating the other two clowns

Kim is great.

And shouts out to America's Funniest Home Videos who are still dedicated to finding video of people hurting/demeaning themselves after all these years.

https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/slipknot-fan-recovering-from-dental-surgery-unlocks-meaning-of-life

thirding/fourthing that Kim is great

^can't stop, won't stop

(By which I mean, one more for the Kim Kelley greatness acknowledgement chain)

I, too, think Kim Kelly is the bee's knees

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/a-rising-river-leaves-interns-trapped-outside-kalu-yala

TIL Vice has a series called Jungletown that is a reality tv spin on neocolonialism. a for-profit South American village whose founder is promoted in this Vice video series as a "visionary". wiki:

Despite Kalu Yala's stated altruistic, sustainability and educational goals, the venture is profit seeking and solicited a $12 million Series A venture capital round with the intent to a achieve a $100 million valuation in five years.

do the work

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/3kabqb/the-single-payer-problem-liberals-dont-want-to-talk-about

What's this about a problem, I hear you ask? The current health insurance industry bureaucracy hires lots of low-income women to work at crappy jobs that might disappear under single-payer.

So, how about using some of the massive savings created by single payer to set up high quality subsidized child care or some other badly needed social services and hire those low-income women to do something more socially useful than pushing paper or answering phones?

Good zing about the author's twitter bio

"Writer. Busy doing important work" is just "CEO at gettin money inc" for people who only worked as unpaid interns until age 30

— The Discourse Lover (@Trillburne) September 19, 2017

lol

ice cold

how the heck did i miss this thread before

Noisey is gonna have to really fight like fuck now!

idgi

http://www.thestranger.com/slog/2017/10/05/25456214/buzzfeed-broadly-editor-asked-milo-yiannopoulos-to-please-mock-former-stranger-writer-lindy-west

Vice should be burned to the ground

So this guy founded Vice's feminist website but was secretly in touch with Breitbart? ffs

this is a fuckin disaster - the noisey people are gonna be super pissed

milo yabbadabbadoopolous

Before they fight the establishment like fuck, Vice will have to fight themselves like fuck first

broadly dude will no longer be doing the work

I keep imagining the Noisey staff reacting like Phil Hartman, Chris Farley and Melanie Hudsel in the SNL skit about the Soylent Green sequels, only instead they're screaming "VICE IS STILL RACIST AND SEXIST! WE THOUGHT THEY WEREN'T BUT THEY ARE! NOOOOOOOOOOOO!"

or like unfrozen caveman lawyer.. "look, i'm just an innocent woke ass dude that just started working here.. when i heard a racist started this place i was like 'whattt?' i didnt know because i just started working here...'"

This was like 4 years ago. Just a reminder of how it's still fucked to be a woman in music. Here is @grass_widow reviewed in @vicenews pic.twitter.com/3ShmofqwXj

— Frankie Rose (@heyfrankierose) October 18, 2017