sun kil moon?

It is tempting to put this album on Songs that you wish were properly recorded but only exist as demos/live recordings purely for shade reasons

Again, no need to listen to new sunk ill moan when there's plenty of great older albums.

people who sneak in 13 items in the 10-items-or-fewer lane at the grocery store

lol yes.

having never really listened before, its pleasant coffee shop music underneath speed reading of unedited tour diaries. i can take this sort of thing at poetry readings but at album-length? not for me.

Might have said this before but the descriptions of his newest stuff seems like the opposite of early Red House Painters when it sounded like every breath of it was precious and important. Seems like a lot of people who might love Red House Painters are put off by the newest stuff and the controversies.
I should probably give some of the newer stuff a shot but I was already falling out of love after the first Sun Kil Moon album, although some of it was nice.

After "Duk Koo Kim" did he ever do one of those build-up songs again? I can't think of anyone else who did anything quite like that.

I feel like I've been listening to the 1st song for an hour at least, or maybe the whole thing is on a "replay 1" setting, I don't know.

each song is an hour long iitc

oh okay here's a new song finally

well, "finally"

Every time I've heard Red House Painters it's been preceded by someone (always a man, always a would-be poet) calling it the most precious, the most emotional music on earth. And then I've had to turn it off a few minutes later in complete bemusement, feeling it completely empty of what I like about either music or lyrics. But who knows, maybe it'll catch me off guard some day

I will admit to legit loling at the ending of "he's bad"

I just realized that's actually on his *other* neverending album that's coming out soon jfc

I was gonna say I don't completely hate it so far but here's the journalist interview bit, ugh

still kinda hoping this whole new style is a big joke

Imago- I don't love all of it but some of it is the fucking best. If you like American Music Club, Low, Idaho type of stuff, definitely worth a few tries.

But who knows, maybe it'll catch me off guard some day

you'd probably get caught off guard by "funhouse" or "mother"

I like track 4, hope he doesn't ruin it with another fucking interlude

spoke too soon

Imago- I don't love all of it but some of it is the fucking best. If you like American Music Club, Low, Idaho type of stuff, definitely worth a few tries.

another gentle reminder that Mark Eitzel should be enjoying Koz's levels of attention rn

He needs a critical friend, doesn't he?

Or even a friend?

ok made it through disc 1

I'll be playing this one now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XKGZCTy8LY
best shit ever

the new Eitzel album is fucking tremendous too, Simon H otm

^^^^ it really is

i wish i could remember this in-depth defense of nü-sun kil moon an acquaintance of mine gave to me.. must not have been very convincing if i can't remember a single thing about it. he had thought about it quite a bit tho

I found deep discounted copies of the new Eitzel in two different record stores within 2 weeks of its release :(

I used to defend Koz but his laziness has just gotten to outsides to deny starting w/ Universal Themes and the worst of Benji

He needs a critical friend, doesn't he?

― djh, Wednesday, February 15, 2017 9:33 PM (nineteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Or even a friend?

Seems to be friends with Steve Shelley:
Steve and I first played together on the Benji album. We just go into the studio and make music and eat Mexican food.

They probably go to Taco Truck in Hoboken. I've seen Steve there. Like Sun Kil Moon, started out great but the quality has gone downhill in the last couple of years.

how i feel about this is how i imagine most people on earth feel about lulu

I'm not sure it's that awesome

How long until his new song about record shops?

https://www.normanrecords.com/records/163483

that got me to relisten to the SKM parody EP which really is the fucking best

If only he changed his moniker for this phase, as it's more of its own distinct "project" at this point.

Is there a thread for artists that have released handfuls of albums in clusters that are polar opposites as distinct sets?

i'm not going to listen to this album

That's wise

yeah but then you'd miss the 12.5-minute song about the young lady found in a hotel rooftop water tank in 2013. it's got a subtle jet fuel/steel beams vibe

a recurring theme--the cover photo appears to be of the tanks

I could just post lyrics of the older material and we can pretend he retired after Benji (given that one and MK & Desertshore were the two arguably successful diary confessional rant albums)

xp that case has come up before in something i can't recall, i distinctly remember reading about it though

it's got a subtle jet fuel/steel beams vibe

I guess we should all be thankful Koz isn't an 1nfowars type...yet

It's a fairly big Internet thing ciderpress. Mainly due to the disturbing cctv footage of the deceased just before her death

there is an absolutely huge medium article by some weirdo regarding the death that goes through all the conspiracy theory stuff, and the official coroner verdict, and the writer went and stayed at the hotel and looked around etc. we talked about it on some thread that i will never remember when it happened

the young woman was from the metro van area so i def heard about it maybe more than others

I liked "Benji" a lot but man oh man this is hard going. Theres one track (songs doesnt really fit for a description) where he rants "IM NOT A FUCKING PUPPET!" over and over again

"i wish i could remember this in-depth defense of nü-sun kil moon an acquaintance of mine gave to me.. must not have been very convincing if i can't remember a single thing about it. he had thought about it quite a bit tho."

I have to confess that I've come up with arguments about it being impressive that he does different things, uses his voice differently, works with different people and is even prepared to look awkward/clumsy/uncool (as he did performing with Jesu) ... but all that counts for fuck all when you hear one of his dreadful tracks.

What went wrong with the Jesu performances?

Oh, nothing at all "went wrong" ... but in the clips I've seen he looks kind of awkward and exposed. I suppose if you're used to playing a guitar not having that prop must be really difficult. And there is definitely part of me that thinks "Good on him". Then I hear a record where he reads out a fan letter.

I'm willing to go on record that it's not as terrible as it's being made out to be. I mean, it's unlikely I'll ever wade through it again, but there are some really beautiful moments (in Phildelphia Cop, Window Sash Weights, I Love Portugal, Sarah Lawrence Song) that I'm glad I stuck out to hear.

where can I buy a perfectly tailored made to order puppet

Just listened to I Love Portugal which wasn't very good at all. I sort of think Kozelek is smart enough to be up to something, but I'm not sure what that something is. He strikes me as being a bit like late-period Hemingway, where you can almost see the dementia through the bones of the words.

perhaps this is the only way out of a bad contract that he signed with himself

he spends a lot of time alone and builds up a lot of resentment and he drinks a lot so he thinks he's funny and its funny to annoy people.

i dunno though, i kinda enjoyed this record, it's really weird,

It's really just him overcompensating in his attempt to / as a result of:

1. Avoid SKM music just progressively getting safer and more nuanced as he gets older, which happens with many artists as any youthful angst progressively disappears from their new music with time. Most artists seem to kind of fall into a role of feeling like they need to put their sound into a more measured and sophisticated filter as they age. This was his trajectory up until AFP.

2. Capture in his own music his renewed love for early Modest Mouse records

3. Exhaustion after putting all of his virtuosic try-hard into AFP (as well as everything leading up to that point), and just feeling more comfortable talking candidly about his experiences and observations through song (Among the Leaves results).

4. After experiencing some grief in his life, he gets very confessional and the style finally resonates better with audiences. (Perils, MK & Desertshore and Benji result).

5. Combine the above while also attempting to more desperately rebel against the first point but probably telling himself he's doing something super unique and interesting and pretending it isn't just giving up at trying to actually "write" music or words like he was once capable of motivating himself to do.

I don't think I could have formatted that any more confusingly, sorry. Just writing thoughts quickly.