Any reason why ILM is so quiet these days?

horchata blue moon is like drinking an ilx thread

IPAs aren't inherently bad, i think it's the fact that at least here on the west coast it's the style that's most overwhelmingly popular. i mean i like the dirty projectors too but i don't want my local record store to stock 75% dirty projectors soundalikes.

I like "session IPAs": hoppy but still light enough to have with food. Evil Twin Citra Sunshine Slacker is one I've been drinking lately.

random thoughts:

just as there are crappy liquors that are more likely to give you a headache, there are crappy wines that will give you a headache

i thought the ipa craze was an american thing

and in terms of beer giving me a headache, i usually drink no more than 650ml/22oz per sitting and only one or two days a week so i've not experienced a beer-induced headache in a long time

i'm sure i can get one if i drink a 12oz 18%abv stout though (i've never drunk an entire bottle)

drinking a modern times black house while listening to the national rn

i can't really drink beer like i used to. cuz i am an old steely dan dad. wine is fine though. i am drinking tormaresca neprica puglia right now. negroamaro/primitivo/cabernet sauvignon.

but i only opened a bottle because i was making beef stew.

those two spencer beers i had last night were tasty though!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcEurIyUEAAX36E.jpg

and i only had those beers because i was losing it in a big way. 39 days without smoking cigarettes and it is no easier than the first day. even with nicorette products. even harder maybe....

beer advocate people are claiming that it is not actually trappist!

Trapp House...

Beerz in the Trap

Treesh I had horchata blue moon on christmas and did not hate it

i never read that though. they built a brewery at the monastery! i like their beer.

http://www.spencerbrewery.com/

Yes but does it taste like horchata?

Although i guess a trappist ipa is at least as incongruous.

I just drank a rochefort trappiste 10 in honour of you dudes

And ya they need to have the trappist approved label I'm afraid

But enjoy what you drink and all and glory be to god me lads

yeah, spencer is the only trappist approved beer in the u.s. i think.

they make an imperial stout. which i don't think i've ever seen another trappist brewery do!

their regular ale is nice and fresh and clean and normal. i dig it. no big whoop. and its not cheap. but i only need a four pack every couple of months. so, it suits my purposes.

I really support all the directions this thread has taken. Maybe all ilx needs is just to lock all other threads and concentrate everything here in a critical mass of Steely Dan and hating on bougie/alt/hipster/creative class beer trends.

There should definitely only be one thread.

return of monoculture

california wine fucking rules

the ipa hops arms race sucks

Cali wine is v good actually

My dad and stepmom are the ones that recommend the good stuff tho cos i kno very little about that

the cool thing about the IPA craze is you can just choose not to drink them

they are making pinot noir beer now

Yeah but they take up all the taps and bodega fridge shelf space. It's like kudzu.

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http://garageproject.co.nz/products/rose-de-la-vallee

yeah there are good cali wines. good wines from all over! i just love that Italian stuff. and French stuff. cheap Bordeaux is all i need.

~barleywine~

Oh man thatms a style to get you rekt

The stout crowd is p big in la

I feel like goses are still growing in popularity. They are perfect for summer - an entry level sour

i'm a stout/scotch ale/porter/barleywine guy myself. but i've mostly been drinking red wine these days. which is not much at all, tbh.

gose is the worst thing I've ever drank

it is worse than colonoscopy prep

in the 90's i worked at this beer store in philly that was one of the only stores at the time in center city that had a massive selection - run by an insane dutch guy - and i didn't work there long but i almost died trying everything. and the barleywine was definitely a big part of that.

thomas hardy's ale - ooooooof. so much sick shit. tasty though. Belgium annihilated me.

Nothing will ever rival IPAs because no other style includes a single flavor that brewers can continually exaggerate. There is a teleological dimension to IPAs that set them apart from all other drinks.

Goses are the fucking best. The mild saltiness is what does it. It needs to be hot though and you need to be outside for the beer to work its magic.

perhaps if I were dying of thirst

only had otra vez. Maybe it is bad.

i do love sour. flemish sour. monk's cafe. sourer the betterer.

Yeah Monks is the bomb. I loved living in Philly.

Sixpoint Jammer > Otra Vez

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yes, monk's the bar but also monk's the beer! so good.

rodenbach grand cru....mmmmmmmm. gonna get all sour tomorrow. it's a date! fuck cigarettes. i really want a cigarette...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gose#/media/File%3AGoseLeipzig.jpg

I wonder what this tastes like, if it's like the goses I've had on tap in American bars

Oh yeah yes to rodenbach grand cru and monk's beer. Legit sours are amazing. I think their appeal might be limited -- goses I can see blowing up, and this is a website where we are supposed to examine culture/evaluate trends/stay relevant

For instance Cinammon Horchata Ale is good as a metaphor

this is where i worked. i think the dutch guy sold it though. it was a really hard place to work! it was like a cave in back. and it would get insanely busy on the weekend. people would come from new jersey to buy beer. this was before there was good beer everywhere.

http://www.fooderybeer.com/

i switched to days there and the owner would just watch me all day on the hidden camera he had in his office upstairs. i would get a million phone calls from him. everything had to be just so.