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wrote a review of the show here. hard to do justice to how heavy it was.

fits, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 17:29 (nine years ago)

Thanks for sharing that, very nice and thoughtful review.

I can't recall anticipating an album this much yet feeling almost 'scared' to listen to it...

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 17:38 (nine years ago)

Hi Fits,

Thank you! Really appreciate you posting that piece.

Everything Moves Towards The Sun (Ross), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 21:21 (nine years ago)

yeah, great piece!

sean gramophone, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 21:26 (nine years ago)

v nice piece on the show.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 23:17 (nine years ago)

wrote a review of the show here. hard to do justice to how heavy it was.

― fits

but you pretty much did! great writing, and i can tell you're v v well-versed in his musical output.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 23:36 (nine years ago)

great piece, fits.

love that he walked out as soon as he was done

flappy bird, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 23:38 (nine years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/H2R2Ck8qKWM

Heartbreaking.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 17:14 (nine years ago)

Sorry: https://youtu.be/H2R2Ck8qKWM

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 17:14 (nine years ago)

oof. hold on to the ones you love.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 17:22 (nine years ago)

True words. I am actually nervous for this album... Ravens alone reduced me to a sobbing mess.. :-/

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 18:18 (nine years ago)

maybe i haven't seen any other recent pictures of him, but man Elverum looks like he's aged years and years in the new press pic on p4k. i gotta hold off on listening to this until it comes out... the first single was so brutal

flappy bird, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 18:26 (nine years ago)

absolutely terrific piece on the show up there, fits. i read it on a lunch break and sat there and cried into my burrito

these songs are just devastating to listen to. the backpack bit ...

he announced some tour dates today, in case anyone missed it:

04-04 Eugene, OR - WOW Hall
04-06 Big Sur, CA - Henry Miller Library
04-09 Santa Ana, CA - When We Were Young Fest @ Observatory
04-10 San Diego, CA - Irenic
04-11 Los Angeles, CA - The Masonic Lodge @ Hollywood Forever
04-14 Oakland, CA - Starline Social Club
04-17 Portland, OR - Mississippi Studios
04-18 Olympia, WA - Obsidian
04-12-14 Arcosanti, AZ - FORM Arcosanti

alpine static, Friday, 17 February 2017 01:21 (nine years ago)

Seems like he has no intention of coming back to Vancouver after that shambolic show years back. I'm with flappy bird - want to listen to this and will support him $, but there's so much grief and death in our culture, that I'm not sure I can handle this atm.

Everything Moves Towards The Sun (Ross), Friday, 17 February 2017 01:24 (nine years ago)

three weeks pass...

One hell of a read.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 March 2017 16:53 (nine years ago)

It is.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 13 March 2017 17:07 (nine years ago)

And without trying to beat a point into the ground, that it's Jayson Greene doing this story is vitally important. If you don't know why:

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/23/opinion/sunday/children-dont-always-live.html

Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 March 2017 17:10 (nine years ago)

^ jesus, i had no idea. the p4k feature is great, dreading the day i listen to A Crow Looked at Me for the first time

flappy bird, Monday, 13 March 2017 17:24 (nine years ago)

knowing that makes a harrowing interview even more powerful.

Karl Malone, Monday, 13 March 2017 17:58 (nine years ago)

To me this was the key moment:

“I sometimes think about the life that my daughter will have with no mom,” he wonders. “What does it mean to have a ghost mom? Not that I can do anything differently about it. But it’s an inferior version of what we had planned, you know? This was not our top choice.” We both crack up; grief is funny sometimes.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 March 2017 18:01 (nine years ago)

Jayson is one of the best writers in the game right now; I am in awe of everything he writes

Evan R, Monday, 13 March 2017 18:04 (nine years ago)

Jayson was the perfect choice for such an intimate interview. Could not have been penned better by any other writer.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 13 March 2017 18:07 (nine years ago)

Excellent article, it's rare to see Phil this candid

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Monday, 13 March 2017 22:25 (nine years ago)

https://thecreativeindependent.com/people/phil-elverum-on-creating-art-from-grief/

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 18:44 (nine years ago)

That Elverum piece was fabulous - so understated and clear-eyed. And I had no idea about Jayson Greene's daughter. Dear god. One would hope for an ounce of such humility and humanity in the face of such tragedy.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 22:05 (nine years ago)

streaming on npr

http://www.npr.org/2017/03/16/520013269/first-listen-mount-eerie-a-crow-looked-at-me

Isi, Thursday, 16 March 2017 05:28 (nine years ago)

Fuck, this is beautiful

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Thursday, 16 March 2017 06:00 (nine years ago)

yeah, hard to find words for this as a whole but Soria Moria is just breathtaking

devvvine, Thursday, 16 March 2017 09:42 (nine years ago)

http://www.metacritic.com/music/a-crow-looked-at-me/mount-eerie

So this has a 96 on metacritic. Looks like we've got a year-end list juggernaut on our hands.

josh az (2011nostalgia), Friday, 24 March 2017 19:45 (nine years ago)

This album has such potent observational details and emotional heft. Don't think I'll ever listen to it again, but I'm glad Phil can express this way.

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Friday, 24 March 2017 19:47 (nine years ago)

this is all i've listened to this week; something hypnotic about it, different guitar lines and lyrics follow me after each listen. is an astonishing work, wouldn't envy anyone who has to review it though.

devvvine, Friday, 24 March 2017 21:38 (nine years ago)

joanne kyger, whose poem is on the cover, died like two days before the album came out :-/

Isi, Saturday, 25 March 2017 06:01 (nine years ago)

I too have been listening to this all week. I've been a fan of his work forever but yeah, this is different. It reminds me a bit of my experience with Bowie's 'Blackstar' in that the music is inseparable from what it's about and I wonder if I would feel the same if the narrative was more open to interpretation.

yesca, Saturday, 25 March 2017 12:51 (nine years ago)

as different as it is though, no one else could make something so understated yet devastating. think this is a really good, thoughtful review about it's relation to his previous work:

http://www.popmatters.com/review/mount-eerie-a-crow-looked-at-me/

am curious about the experience of people new to elverum, hard for me to untangle this from having followed him for years.

devvvine, Saturday, 25 March 2017 14:24 (nine years ago)

this is amazing - the way it plays, rather than wallows, in grief is key to it, plus the brilliant songwriting and arrangements. imo far more devastating than other 'tragedy response' albums of recent years

an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Monday, 27 March 2017 08:42 (nine years ago)

This album has such potent observational details and emotional heft. Don't think I'll ever listen to it again, but I'm glad Phil can express this way.

― Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Friday, 24 March 2017 19:47 (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I listened to the album once over the weekend and this is exactly how I feel about it.

Gavin, Leeds, Monday, 27 March 2017 12:19 (nine years ago)

Will certainly listen again. Just as the album seems to be flagging those last three tracks come in and they're amazing

an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Monday, 27 March 2017 12:51 (nine years ago)

all fails
my knees fail
my brain fails
words fail

just another (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 03:47 (nine years ago)

got through the first 4 songs on this and felt completely drained. i can't get through it. waves of blank depression and meaningless sadness. the NYT review of this is spot on - this isn't "art" really, because art is concerned with aesthetics. it just is. the scariest thing about it is i understand what he said after his wife death - everything lost meaning, it all became absurd. this makes Blackstar look like a party. that's a man staring death in the face, one last rattle and rage. this is soul-sucking.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 17:40 (nine years ago)

"It just is."

Yes, it just is. It is also beyond admirable, amazing, soul crushingly honest and extremely uncomfortable to witness. It shakes me up completely and indeed sucks my soul bone dry. Only to fill it up till it overflows with love for life, love for love.

If that is not art, I honestly do not know what is, and I probably do not even care about discussing it. Because life is literally too short.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 18:00 (nine years ago)

i'm interviewing Phil soon and i have no idea how to do it. any insights welcome.

alpine static, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 18:26 (nine years ago)

Oof. That sounds like once a dream gig turned into a nightmare. Not literally a nightmare, I think Elverum is awesome. But the grief is so all encompassing it's not even an elephant in the room, it is simply unavoidable. A dinosaur of grief crushing you.

But I think you can still have a very meaningful conversation with him. You could ask him about how he feels, now that he put this album out there, it being reviewed as a piece of art, or work, and how that affects him, how that 'response' makes him reflect on the album. The dynamic of putting such a personal thing out in the world is something that would interest me, to read about.

What medium are you writing this for?

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 18:34 (nine years ago)

a print paper...will be online, too, of course

thanks for the thoughts, LBI. we'll certainly cover that kind of stuff, i'm sure. i'm interested, too.

what i find most fascinating by the whole thing is his response to this loss in his life - that he feels "ripped open" and exposed, so why not just record these songs and play them and talk about them, etc. "My internal moments felt like public property," he has said. TO BE VERY VERY CLEAR: he should grieve exactly how he feels is right. period. and i think "talking about it" is generally thought of as healthy, but it's not necessarily a *typical* reaction, particularly for someone who is somewhat of a public figure.

anyway, i am a human being with loved ones, i figure we'll just have a conversation and i'll go where it leads.

alpine static, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 19:05 (nine years ago)

I agree with pretty much all of that and I think it's fine to have doubts. Christ, I'm sure he had them, too (about going in at all, let alone making all this 'public').

I think, essentially, I find it too uncomfortable to listen to. It's not intrusive, as such, as Elverum has chosen to make his grief work public, but the simple fact of being party to watching someone trying to give voice to, to give language to, something which evades that impulse induces a kind of shame. Or it's like that thing that during one of the first American expeditions to the moon, an astronaut accidentally pointed his camera at the sun, which immediately burned out the camera's cells. It was as if the camera couldn't tolerate the source or purity of what its own raison d’etre is to capture and relay.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 19:21 (nine years ago)

I took No Flashlight as a reference to being in the dark but maybe it's more about having stared at the very centre of things and having one's cells burnt out. Or both of those things.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 19:23 (nine years ago)

this is amazing - the way it plays, rather than wallows, in grief is key to it

I agree with this. I find it sad and intense but not as bleak as others seem to, just relentlessly real. Some of it is even kinda wry? "Do the people around me want to keep hearing about my dead wife?"

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 21:14 (nine years ago)

Yeah, agree with this ^

alpine static, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 21:35 (nine years ago)

it's so sad, but i don't struggle to listen to it ... except maybe the part about the backpack. that's tough.

alpine static, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 21:40 (nine years ago)

I think Phil does manage to have a good sense of humour and levity despite the heartbreak, which does make the album easier to listen to.

Personally still I don't feel compelled to listen to it regularly, I just majorly hope it has helped him.

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 21:44 (nine years ago)

Album is a little long but it has its moments

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 12 November 2024 21:14 (one year ago)

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/mount-eerie-night-palace/

Pitchfork gives it a best album status

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 12 November 2024 21:17 (one year ago)

I missed the Hana Stretton album earlier this year (re-released by Elverum) and, I think, a subsequent UK tour.

Sounds really nice. Prohibitively expensive, given the postal costs, but suppose I could ordered digitally.

djh, Wednesday, 20 November 2024 21:26 (one year ago)

"could order"

djh, Wednesday, 20 November 2024 21:36 (one year ago)

got it with my order. it is a beaut. it's on streaming and whatnots

happily the Night Palace notes are folded for reading in the style of a comically large newspaper, browsable by record side.

the No Flashlight notes are handwritten chaos. Tempted to frame it.

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 20 November 2024 22:11 (one year ago)

Yeah, if I'd noticed it I would have ordered with "Night Palace".

Have never shopped at World of Echo (in the UK) but fair play to them - Googling suggests they did have stock at some point.

djh, Wednesday, 20 November 2024 22:26 (one year ago)

New Mount Eerie album and book (and some back catalogue) on its way, apparently. I confess to being quite excited.

djh, Wednesday, 27 November 2024 20:42 (one year ago)

I've only played on Spotify so far but it seems great. Maybe too sprawling and covering a lot of ground to be perfect but easily one of my favourites of this year. I don't even get uppity about the one where he chats with a fish.

djh, Tuesday, 3 December 2024 19:05 (one year ago)

Would anyone in Oxford (or thereabouts) or the UK want a Hana Stretton album?

I'm trying to work out the optimum number to buy to get the best from the US postal system ...

(Oxford, as I could hand deliver ... which might be off-putting, I suppose ... or get you to come to my place of work).

djh, Thursday, 5 December 2024 20:18 (one year ago)

Strange. Was talking about Mount Eerie with a friend at the weekend and he was convinced that Phil would only play one UK date (London) if he toured this album. I'd have thought loads of people would want to hear Night Palace, live.

djh, Tuesday, 10 December 2024 19:27 (one year ago)

Amusingly, my order from America arrived from ... Slough.

djh, Wednesday, 11 December 2024 21:40 (one year ago)

Easily my favourite album of the year. It's sprawling and there are sometimes tracks I want to skip but it covers so much ground. Enjoying it *differently* as two CDs rather than a Spotify playlist.

djh, Friday, 13 December 2024 21:31 (one year ago)

three weeks pass...

Enjoyed this and the accompanying playlist: https://deepvoices.substack.com/p/deep-voices-113-phil-elverum

djh, Sunday, 5 January 2025 13:26 (one year ago)

sweet, thanks for that!

I've had so little time to digest Night Palace but i really like it so far.

i like that there are a few genuinely funny moments. Not unprecedented but coming a bit easier than before?

I like that there's a new Gleam. i can't hear that song now without thinking of some live release where there's a false start or aborted take, where he just starts.. I know you've seen the billowy black.. and starts laughing. a perfect Phil moment. What release was that?

maf you one two (maffew12), Sunday, 5 January 2025 17:11 (one year ago)

Niche but you can get a "custom print" of the painting used for Night Palace direct from the artist - at indigofree.com (circa $300)

djh, Friday, 17 January 2025 11:21 (one year ago)

Weird - thought this had been posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LchMiVRd-iA

djh, Tuesday, 21 January 2025 22:00 (one year ago)

two weeks pass...

That Hana Stretton album is so beautiful.

djh, Saturday, 8 February 2025 21:34 (one year ago)


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