Von Sudenfed - Tromatic Reflexxions

Great gig report, JimD!

I really recognise the "he sucks, but he's great!" from trying to explain MES to other people who never heard of him.

Mouse on Mars. Like Tromatic Reflexxions but no MES... Still fucking great!

SWEEEEEET REVIVE!

god this album rules

this is dope

yeah!!!! REVIVE THIS THREAD! Lovely! LJ, I don't care about the haterz, you are a cool dude, and I'll back you up til the end.

being up at 3.30 am is not the zenith of cool tbh but this music is kinda keeping me awake...amazing it's taken this long for it to click

Yeah, dude. I'm with you. No doubt about it. Just gotta rip it to my iTunes and I'm set. Hold on...

The Rhinohead is, like, SO SO SO good.

I FLOODED THE CLUB!

that song is also very very very good

most of this, in fact, rules

yeah it's definitely official

fwiw I am discovering The Fall in a big, big way atm...this is very much the developing thing in my musical taste

just get The Right Albums : )

they are awesome

Somewhere on ILX I once said something along the lines of "I don't get The Fall". Those days are over. My hitherto tiny mind has been expanded. And this is only the start. Although, weirdly, the stuff I'm REALLY getting into is the late 80's/90's material. This is mostly because it's the only stuff I've really laid hands on so far. The Marshall Suite is a completely brilliant record, The Light User Syndrome not far behind, This Nation's Saving Grace is awesome awesome awesome (holy shit Paint Work), and the A Past Gone Mad compilation is pretty much flawless. Birmingham School Of Business School! The day I finally acquire Hex Enduction Hour will be a joyful one. I reckon I'm stepping in the right direction tho'. Actually the two records I'd really like to hear next are Levitate and The Unutterable. Hope that isn't sacrilegious. But my favourite Fall song so far might well be The Crying Marshall and the garage-electro sound really suits MES' style imo. Not that I don't rate the earlier stuff. I have Perverted By Language as well. That record seems to be mostly all about the Garden - Hotel Bloedel one-two punch. It's really nice, if a bit sparser than the later material. Gosh, I need to stop typing.

Glad you're getting into the Fall! I think it's funny that you said you're stepping in the right direction because there's a song on Hex Enduction Hour called "Just Step 'Sways". Maybe you knew that, though. And for what it's worth, I didn't "get" The Fall at first, either.

I went through the same thing. I compare the Fall to one of those "Magic Eye" pictures, like they tend to look like nothing for a long time and then suddenly this image pops out at you... I was almost the same w/the Fall. They suddenly just made sense.

Hex is great.

Honestly I think The Real New Fall LP (Formerly County on the Click) is up there with anything they've done too, if you want a 00s record.

I'm currently going through this with Zappa (sort of, because there's still a lot about him I hate, but at least the orig. Mothers 60s records I'm digging now)

Levitate is amazing.

Don't go too fast...you are in for years of discovery!

"He said, - YOU DON'T LOOK LIKE NO GODDAMNED SINGER SONGWRITER TO ME-UH!"

^^^that song, I listened to it again today on the way to work, made me swagger

man i love this

"He said, - YOU DON'T LOOK LIKE NO GODDAMNED SINGER SONGWRITER TO ME-UH!"

haha i mumble this to myself all the time

Name aside, this record is great to listen to when you're sick. I had a bastard of a cold around this time last year and it was just what I needed.

I been in mah gar-den
I just kept sing-ing

Fuck, why haven't they made another one of these?

because the first one's perfect! why ruin a great legacy?

I see ur point, but I'm greedy.

I FLUH-DUD THE CLUB!!!!!!!!!!!

Alarming how many Fall fans I've talked to who have never heard this! Like two. But that's two too many.

Was listening to this yesterday as well! Marvellous album, so much fun and invention. Had a fluhdid the club moment on the train home. Periodically suggestions rise that they'll do another one surface, but I'm not sure Smith will consider it unless he's strapped for cash.

If he was strapped for cash, he'd make another fall album, surely?

Not sure about that to be honest. I think a lot of the collaborative stuff, and indeed Fall repackaging stuff, as well as more or less constant touring, is partly driven by this (speculation on my part, but fairly strongly felt). The MoM collaboration was both high-profile and successful and MoM have said they'd be happy to work with him again.

God, this is fucking great.

But I mean it's Mouse on Mars so what do you expect

No, it's Mark E Smith, what do you expect.

MoM are incredibly good live. Von Sud live would be great, did they tour this?

I've been waiting for Mouse on Mars to come back to the states again for, like, 7 years. At this point they are the band I most want to see live right now. Well, "at this point" has pretty much been the past 7 years.

Von Sud live would be great, did they tour this?

I saw them perform with it twice, the first at.. Fabric was it? which was good (v good Fledermaus Can't Get It). And Heaven, which was absolutely fantastic. Extremely memorable. Even the security stewards were grinning at one point. There are recordings I believe.

Was that the one were he kept on distractedly wandering off the stage? And it was also insanely loud? It was an experience, certainly.

Hmmm, he did go off stage a bit, but I guess I'm used to that (he often likes to sing behind the amps I think). We're probably talking about the same one, as the Fabric one was rather less chaotic iirc.

I saw them perform with it twice

Not sure we should refer to Mark as "it". ;-)

Mark E Smith, yesterday

http://www.dailyinfo.co.uk/images/cinema/sammy.jpg

'...I ended up in the 1860s. I been there for 125 years.'

-ah."

Iiii was in mah gaaaaaarden, iii just kept siiiiiiiiiiinginnnnng

yamayamayamayamayamayama

Iiii was in mah gaaaaaarden, iii just kept siiiiiiiiiiinginnnnng

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such an anthem

i was the DJ tonight, the other DJ pissed the bed.

i spent the past week listening to 'flooded' on repeat, and i can't get over how hilarious the concept is. since there's no printed lyrics, i found myself wondering the words past the above lines. i got so far as realizing that it's essentially a (presumably) fictional vignette of mark having a barney with an events manager over who 'booked the club', while sven väth - a popular german DJ - argues that he was in fact the disc jockey of the evening; mark then berates sven väth for requiring a rubber sheet for his set ("he pissed the bed").

not to insult anyone's intelligence at all or anything, especially not ilxors, but i really do feel like mark's storytelling is overlooked sometimes... this track is exemplary penmanship of his to me - it takes you a while to decipher what he's banging on about, but when you do, and it clicks, it's just fucking class.

It was Mark's interpretation of a dream that Jan St. Werner had told him, in which he'd been booked to DJ a club but then gets booted off the decks by Sven Väth.

It’s kind of funny: he’s translating this dream I had. In the dream, I had to book the whole club because I am such a lousy DJ; I had to buy the whole club out for that night. So I’m arriving there with all my records, glad that I can finally play all these great tunes that I have invested all my money into. And I get there, and there is already a DJ, the in-house DJ. He’s like, “You might’ve booked the club but I’m the DJ, I’m putting on the records”. And then, I’m going so insane that I flood the club, flushing the whole thing away. Mark liked the dream so much that he put down lyrics straight away. With him, he thought also of the connotations of having a dream and something going really wrong and you piss your bed, in this Freudian way. There’s this reverse personality on the track, which is a recurring theme of the record – who is actually who? Like, I’m the narrator, and also the band member, then he’s Mark E. Smith, then he becomes me, then he’s the DJ, then the DJ’s pissing in his own bed.