― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 10:50 (eighteen years ago) link
I think this is either a son montuno or a cha cha cha. Probably son montuno because I think that's what walter said the liner notes said.
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 21:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 21:23 (eighteen years ago) link
Just about every Fania All Stars album I've heard has a track kind of like this.
It's funny: I got mixed up originally about what you had said--plus I hadn't heard "Ahora Si," and I was thinking you were liking the most crossoverish sounding stuff from the 60s, but now it turns out you are actually liking something which is maybe "rootsier" than what I like. (But don't let that turn you off to it.)
I think you would like a lot of Fania All Stars, Johnny Pacheco, and Larry Harlow recordings, for starters (although they don't all sound like this, obviously). I think it would be worth your while to check out Larry Harlows album Salsa. Also, I bet you'd like most of Markolino Dimond/Frankie Dante's Beethoven's V.
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 21:28 (eighteen years ago) link
I don't know much about boogaloo at all.
Anyway, if you like son montuno then you can always dip back into older Cuban recordings (or newer recordings of that style), and lots of salsa, etc. etc.
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 21:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 21:37 (eighteen years ago) link
my salsa explorations sort of ground to a halt, much faster than i'd hoped. SO DIFFICULT TO FIND! out here in sunny san diego most latin listeners are looking for norteno or ranchera or something what's called "regional mexicana" at the record store. there's a pretty well-stocked "tropical" section at most chain stores but it's 75% ultra-glossy current pop from central america, rounded out with some current lite-latin-jazz from 70s figures.
all i've really managed to pick up are a couple of willie colon albums. no dice on siembra unfortunately. no luck finding any fania all-stars albums of note. and when i do turn up nice looking reissues, they're always on Get Back! or some other euro label so they're like 25 bucks for a 40 minute album! (ok they have nice LP-style sleeves but still!)
― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 21:54 (eighteen years ago) link
I think I've heard good things about that compilation, but there might be more obvious choices. I'm not too familiar with Arsenio Rodriguez's music. (I know who he is and sort of why he's important.) I don't think it's necessarily the horn section really.
As a dancer, it's easy to draw a line between what's salsa and what isn't. (Salsa = Latin music to which I can dance the steps I learned in my salsa class, with reasonable comfort.) Otherwise, it does become a little fuzzy. A lot of people say that New York salsa has a different sort of rhythmic drive than Cuban music even when it's basically sticking to a Cuban formula. I think there's something to that, though I wouldn't want to try to elaborate.
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 22:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 22:11 (eighteen years ago) link
I finally got my turntable hooked up to my computer so here is the first track from Ricardo Ray & Bobby Cruz - 1975...
http://s12.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=22MQ4IVVJ6ZOE027YP39YOBGL4
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 16:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 17:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:01 (eighteen years ago) link
http://s24.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3089PZ1MM8SVA1I4ADYU0HYJ9G
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 18 August 2005 01:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Keith C (lync0), Sunday, 12 March 2006 19:35 (eighteen years ago) link
Sonora Poncena - Fuego En El 23 Ray, Richie - El Sonido De La Bestia Blades, Ruben - Bohemio Y Poeta Colon, Willie - Siembra Cruz, Celia - Celia & Johnny Colon, Willie - El Malo Pacheco, Johnny / Pete "Conde" Rodriguez - Los Compadres Rodriguez, Pete "El Conde" - I Like It Like That La Lupe - Es La ReinaHarlow, Larry - Yo Soy Latino Valentin, Bobby - Rey Del Bajo Lavoe, Hector - La Voz Betancourt, Justo - Leguleya NoPuente, Tito - Para Los Rumberos Rivera, Ismael - MaeloPalmieri, Eddie - Vamonos Pa'l Monte Pacheco, Johnny - El Maestro Roena, Roberto - Apollo Sound 5Palmieri, Charlie - El Gigante Del TecladoTipica 73 - Charangueando Con La Tipica Barretto, Ray - Acid Cruz, Celia - Cuba Y Puerto Rico Son... Miranda, Ismael - Asi Se Compone Un Son Feliciano, Cheo - Cheo Bataan, Joe - Riot Ramirez, Louie - Ali Baba Brothers, Lebron - Salsa Y ControlSantamaria, Mongo - Solrito Cuba, Joe - Bang! Bang! Push, Push Orquesta Inmensidad - La Salsa De Hoy
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Sunday, 12 March 2006 20:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― Keith C (lync0), Sunday, 12 March 2006 20:46 (eighteen years ago) link
Santiago, Adalberto: AdalbertoLavoe, Hector: De Ti DependeColon, Willie: FantasmasCruz, Celia: Homenaje A Beny MoreBarretto, Ray: IndestructibleBlades, Ruben: Maestra Vida Vol. 1Colon, Santos: Siempre Santitos
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Sunday, 12 March 2006 22:18 (eighteen years ago) link
(Hmmm. Does that make it NSFW?)
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Monday, 11 September 2006 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Monday, 11 September 2006 19:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Monday, 11 September 2006 19:39 (seventeen years ago) link
Over the next year, I expect to finally buy truckloads of these things.
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Thursday, 14 September 2006 02:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 19:02 (seventeen years ago) link
Someone hooked me up with a copy of this, which I know nothing about and have never heard of previously, and it's pretty good. There's a goofy party theme to it, but even that is handled okay. A cover of "Cisco Kid." Some great fast-paced vibes and flute stuff. I am just assuming it's from the 70's.
― R_S (RSLaRue), Sunday, 1 October 2006 21:19 (seventeen years ago) link
A crack set of early 70s Latin, played by "the cream of New York" -- a group that includes Louie Ramirez on piano, vibes, and organ, and Mauricio Smith on flute and sax! The whole album's pretty darn great, with a really strong jazzy touch -- thanks to great work by Ramirez and Smith -- and at some level, the feel of the record is similar to that of labelmates Ocho, with an equally righteous blend of styles. Most tracks have vocals, but the main focus is on the strong instrumentation -- and 2 cuts on the set are instrumentals. Titles include "Salta Perico", "El Party", "Quimbia", "Mi Pais", and a great funky cover of "Cisco Kid"!
― R_S (RSLaRue), Sunday, 1 October 2006 23:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― R_S (RSLaRue), Sunday, 1 October 2006 23:17 (seventeen years ago) link
Woah! That's the only record by eiher of them that I own. I got it the Gigante (a kind of Mexican K-Mart) in Puebla or somewhere in Mexico, in their discount bin. My brother made me get it, he was living there in the early-mid 80s I dug it, my friends all hated it.
― factcheckr (factcheckr), Monday, 2 October 2006 00:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― HUNTA-V (vahid), Monday, 2 October 2006 00:38 (seventeen years ago) link
that looks awesome
It figures.
Anyway, that's their best album together, from what I've heard of their work (and I don't think I've ever come across even one person who dissents from that view).
x-post:
The La Crema you mean? It actually is really good. It's not as crazy as the cover makes it look, but in the beginning there are people ringing a doorbell and coming in to the party, and then at the end there's party-leaving chatter as well. I didn't realize Louie Ramirez was involved until I Googled it, but I generally like him (as vibraphonist and as arranger/bandleader).
― R_S (RSLaRue), Monday, 2 October 2006 00:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― R_S (RSLaRue), Saturday, 7 October 2006 00:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― R_S (RSLaRue), Saturday, 7 October 2006 00:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― R_S (RSLaRue), Saturday, 7 October 2006 01:03 (seventeen years ago) link
More about it:
http://www.descarga.com/cgi-bin/db/12572.10?izsWRqZi;;595
― R_S (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 13:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― R_S (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 14:06 (seventeen years ago) link
― tiit (tiit), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link
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― tiit (tiit), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― R_S (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 16:03 (seventeen years ago) link
(Last post: WTF, a bit off-topic. tiit, I will get to this eventually. I remind you that it was your idea. In general, it's better to let me "go first" in a trade.)
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