the Sturgill Simpson c/d

or GLEE

I'm not talking about ppl who dismiss rap as not being "actual music" or because they're racist or whatever. I am talking specifically about the phenomenon of not being able to understand the diction/slang/vocal delivery of a subculture you may not be directly familiar with, and using that as critical grounds for dismissal.

No you aren't, otherwise your qualifier wouldn't have been "old white guys", it would have been "people not down with current slang" which does actually include a fair number of people who are not old white men. If you're going to shorthand an argument, you should be pretty confident that your shorthand matches the point you want to make.

Furthermore, nowhere did I say "dude is a bad singer"; I said "I couldn't understand a word this dude said on SNL". It is not actually incumbent upon me to watch the SNL performance multiple times with a lyric sheet before I decide whether this music sounds like something I would want to spend my time on.

you're right I did substitute "old white guys" for "people not down with current slang" and I guess that muddied the waters when really my point was just about dealing with a singing style that draws on a different dialect(?) than the one you're used to. I suppose a more value-neutral (or at least non-racially loaded) example would be British stuff that's heavy on slang/local idioms/accents (the Fall? Dizzee Rascal? idk) that might take a little bit of work for an American listener to understand what's going on.

anyway take my word for it this dude doesn't sing in the usual way about the usual things current country dudes sing about

the fall is a great country band

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A91ANoS-_7g

excruciating pedantry on this thread

that's why I listen to Miranda Lambert

I like her too! it's not an either/or thing.

I'd no idea -- I thought you didn't care for her.

it's true I can count the modern country acts I enjoy on one hand - Simpson, Lambert, Musgraves, Lee Ann Womack - all of which I learned about from ILM

i liked the new one a lot btw esp shakey i think you would dig a bunch of it

― Mordy, Friday, 20 January 2017 21:31 (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i don't hate 'in bloom' but it's not among the best stuff on the album fwiw

― Mordy, Friday, 20 January 2017 21:32 (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Agree with Mordy. And as a dad who occasionally had to travel for work the opening song never ceases to choke me up. Eep the bit where he sings "That the answer was so easy" - gah, waterworks.

yes otm; that song is fantastic.

Laur Joamets has (or is soon) leaving the band. Cuts my interest in Sturgill records by at least half.

Wow, that's some bad news-- Simpson's got a major US tour in the Fall booked and already on sale that was primed to be StarTime for him and his band.

read Sturgill's statement ... he doesn't sound too worried:

We've been trying to keep it under wraps to avoid the inevitable rumor mill but last night's gig in Okeechobee FL officially marks the beginning of a new chapter.
We're all very sad to say that after nearly four years Laur Joamets has decided it's time to move on to pursue greener pastures and a gig with little more wiggle room for him to stretch out. It's been a pleasure and an honor watching him grow into one of the baddest guitar players on the planet and everyone in the band wishes him the best in his future endeavors. To be completely honest, I realized last night how much I've missed playing electric guitar without even knowing it so I guess as they say, "it was time".
I'm also proud to say that Little Joe recently became the proud owner of a US green card and is working towards officially becoming a "Muhrican".
Everyone in the band wishes him the absolute best in both his life and career and we cant wait to see what he does with his incredible talents.
It has also been an honor and a priviledge playing with the New Orleans horns boys (Brad Walker, Jon Ramm, Scott Frock) but sadly after touring nearly the entire world, every late night tv program and the Grammy's I felt it was time to move on from the sonic template of ASGTE and get started on "what's next". We all had a wonderful year with them and made some great friends for life. Who knows,..maybe I'll get an itching for the dirty brass again down the road.
With all that said, gonna be keeping it lean & mean with Miles, Chuck, & Bob this year.
After all,..heavy times calls for heavy music.
See ya on the road!!

My understanding is that he was never really a country guy, and had to figure out ways to fit his chops into Sturgill's songs. Obviously it worked out well for everyone.

Kind of interesting going with the smaller band for these bigger shows.

A change is a good thing. Joamets is a great player, but so is Sturgill.

https://www.avclub.com/watch-country-music-shit-starter-sturgill-simpson-busk-1820297790

Probably due a new one soon, no?

I've been listening a lot to his last one. What a weird record. Wish the Nirvana cover wasn't on it. "Call to Arms" is totally his riff on "Life During Wartime," right?

wtf happened with this guy

He's putting out an anime movie on Netflix.

...based off his "Sleazy" new Rock album.

hence my befuddlement

https://www.whiskeyriff.com/2019/07/21/sturgill-simpson-announces-new-sleazy-steamy-rock-album-sound-fury-out-this-fall-along-with-anime-movie/

Disappointed my thread taking off of this one's title didn't, er, take off: The Margo Price c/d

All the DMT trips with Joe Rogan finally caught up with him.

wtf happened with this guy

― Οὖτις, Monday, July 22, 2019 9:24 AM (four hours ago)

idk exactly what's so befuddling, but i fully trust Stu's taste, vision, etc. looking forward to this.

will be interesting to see if he sits down for interviews with the big outlets. he swore them off forever at one point, iirc?

Ha ha, I think this is all awesome news. I went back to his most recent album not long ago and, while I could do without the Nirvana cover, the rest is this awesome country-psych-soul trip that I really dig. So can't wait to hear what he does next.

xpost Why did he swear off interviews?

what's befuddling is he used to have good ideas, and now it seems like all he has are bad ideas

i fully trust Stu's taste, vision, etc.

Really? Even with a Netflix anime movie based on a "sleazy" rock album?

Trust is cool, but I just hope his taste and vision etcetera doesn't lead some of the more impressionable Stu-heads down a path towards full-on fedoras 'n swords.

impressionable Stu-heads down a path towards full-on fedoras 'n swords.

That seems an.... interesting leap. From what I've read, he recorded the album first and came up with the anime idea later, so I'm willing to give it a listen in good faith before assuming its a miss.

it's a pretty plausible leap when you're leaping from Joe Rogan and DMT

I honestly can't see or hear Joe Rogan's name without it immediately being followed in my head by "I smoke rocks"

Didn't he also contribute the titular song for that Jarmusch zombie flick?

new single is...interesting

did dan auerbach somehow get his grubby hands on our precious sturge?

the anime thing seems really stupid but I kinda like the song

i need to listen again to see if i can get past the black keys-iness of it all

halfway thru and this album sounds kind of like one of those kfc menu items that's designed to be so gimmicky that it generates its own free social media buzz

Dude's spent alot of time with Eliminator/Afterburner/Recycler.

Both of those things sound great!

I mean, that album cover!
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5b/Sturgill_Simpson_-_Sound_%26_Fury.png

he tries really hard

XP Yup. Covers Connected!

https://img.discogs.com/RpG-NjC5Y5tRPHuDcqmIE-3SM-M=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-2848159-1413760716-9772.jpeg.jpg

Sturg could do a great cover of "Thug".

heard a song off this oof really bad like Black Keys pretending to be ZZ Top sounded awful like all those Black Keys records do

I haven't listened yet but I'm worried, since I heard the tail end of Sound Opinions yesterday, and both Jim *and* Greg were raving about it, and iirc Jim called it, and I paraphrase, the most radical country record since Yankee Hotel Foxtrot, which made me barf a little.

Guardian and Observer both reviewed the lp this weekend.
Don't remember noticing him before. Just listened to the first track of the lp described as psychedelic in friday's review and I think it's pretty awesome. Guitar is great anyway and vocals do seem to go back to traditional or at least outlaw country which si pretty great.
Must look into him further.

Guardian on Friday
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/sep/26/sturgill-simpson-sound-fury-review-countrys-outlaw-catches-fire

Observer
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/sep/29/sturgill-simpson-sound-and-fury-review-netflix-manga-film