I couldn't tell you anything about the POV of either of the songs he did on SNL because it literally did not sound to me like he was singing in English. It was like watching an angry male Ariana Grande.
― (The caption: “fine dining.”) (DJP), Friday, 20 January 2017 21:38 (seven years ago) link
he's not better than a lot of the recent crop of female country artists but he's probably a lot better than a lot of the dudes.
^^^this
― Οὖτις, Friday, 20 January 2017 21:44 (seven years ago) link
I couldn't tell you anything about the POV of either of the songs he did on SNL because it literally did not sound to me like he was singing in English.
you realize this is how old white guys complain about rap right
Angry male Ariana Grande sounds pretty cool to me. She's the newest character in Final Fantasy Brave Exvius, I'll hope for Sturgill Simpson next.
― Frederik B, Friday, 20 January 2017 21:47 (seven years ago) link
i don't think of him as angry really at all. he just has a lot of intense feels.
― Mordy, Friday, 20 January 2017 21:50 (seven years ago) link
You realize this is the definition of a false equivalence, right
― (The caption: “fine dining.”) (DJP), Friday, 20 January 2017 21:52 (seven years ago) link
how so
― Οὖτις, Friday, 20 January 2017 21:53 (seven years ago) link
also idk how much you guys listen to country radio but i listen to it every so often bc my brother has it on in his car and his stuff sounds like nothing on it totally different sound. agreed that some of the women who get radio play are often doing equally distinctive stuff but even there like miranda lambert gets radio play i can't imagine "Brave for Impact (Live a Little)" getting play on XTU
― Mordy, Friday, 20 January 2017 21:53 (seven years ago) link
"you can't criticize a singer's diction because sometimes people are racist" isn't a position that actually makes any sense
― (The caption: “fine dining.”) (DJP), Friday, 20 January 2017 21:53 (seven years ago) link
I'm not talking about ppl who dismiss rap as not being "actual music" or because they're racist or whatever. I am talking specifically about the phenomenon of not being able to understand the diction/slang/vocal delivery of a subculture you may not be directly familiar with, and using that as critical grounds for dismissal. Sometimes understanding stuff takes work. There's plenty of times I've encountered artists where I could not understand a damn thing they were saying until I really paid attention or looked it up or had someone else point things out etc. I get it that you don't like his vocal delivery and that's fair, but saying you can't understand his POV cuz you can't understand what he's saying - which is about *content*, not delivery - that's on you.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 20 January 2017 21:59 (seven years ago) link
slippery slope from criticizing diction to musical theater
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 20 January 2017 22:00 (seven years ago) link
or GLEE
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 20 January 2017 22:01 (seven years ago) link
I'm not talking about ppl who dismiss rap as not being "actual music" or because they're racist or whatever. I am talking specifically about the phenomenon of not being able to understand the diction/slang/vocal delivery of a subculture you may not be directly familiar with, and using that as critical grounds for dismissal.
No you aren't, otherwise your qualifier wouldn't have been "old white guys", it would have been "people not down with current slang" which does actually include a fair number of people who are not old white men. If you're going to shorthand an argument, you should be pretty confident that your shorthand matches the point you want to make.
― (The caption: “fine dining.”) (DJP), Friday, 20 January 2017 22:05 (seven years ago) link
Furthermore, nowhere did I say "dude is a bad singer"; I said "I couldn't understand a word this dude said on SNL". It is not actually incumbent upon me to watch the SNL performance multiple times with a lyric sheet before I decide whether this music sounds like something I would want to spend my time on.
― (The caption: “fine dining.”) (DJP), Friday, 20 January 2017 22:07 (seven years ago) link
you're right I did substitute "old white guys" for "people not down with current slang" and I guess that muddied the waters when really my point was just about dealing with a singing style that draws on a different dialect(?) than the one you're used to. I suppose a more value-neutral (or at least non-racially loaded) example would be British stuff that's heavy on slang/local idioms/accents (the Fall? Dizzee Rascal? idk) that might take a little bit of work for an American listener to understand what's going on.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 20 January 2017 22:28 (seven years ago) link
anyway take my word for it this dude doesn't sing in the usual way about the usual things current country dudes sing about
― Οὖτις, Friday, 20 January 2017 22:29 (seven years ago) link
the fall is a great country band
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A91ANoS-_7g
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 20 January 2017 22:35 (seven years ago) link
excruciating pedantry on this thread
― Wimmels, Friday, 20 January 2017 23:04 (seven years ago) link
that's why I listen to Miranda Lambert
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 January 2017 00:08 (seven years ago) link
I like her too! it's not an either/or thing.
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 21 January 2017 00:10 (seven years ago) link
I'd no idea -- I thought you didn't care for her.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 January 2017 00:11 (seven years ago) link
it's true I can count the modern country acts I enjoy on one hand - Simpson, Lambert, Musgraves, Lee Ann Womack - all of which I learned about from ILM
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 21 January 2017 00:17 (seven years ago) link
i liked the new one a lot btw esp shakey i think you would dig a bunch of it
― Mordy, Friday, 20 January 2017 21:31 (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i don't hate 'in bloom' but it's not among the best stuff on the album fwiw
― Mordy, Friday, 20 January 2017 21:32 (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Agree with Mordy. And as a dad who occasionally had to travel for work the opening song never ceases to choke me up. Eep the bit where he sings "That the answer was so easy" - gah, waterworks.
― Dysphagia Nutrition Solutions (stevie), Monday, 23 January 2017 13:51 (seven years ago) link
yes otm; that song is fantastic.
― Mordy, Monday, 23 January 2017 15:14 (seven years ago) link
Laur Joamets has (or is soon) leaving the band. Cuts my interest in Sturgill records by at least half.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 5 March 2017 23:44 (seven years ago) link
Wow, that's some bad news-- Simpson's got a major US tour in the Fall booked and already on sale that was primed to be StarTime for him and his band.
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 6 March 2017 02:14 (seven years ago) link
read Sturgill's statement ... he doesn't sound too worried:
We've been trying to keep it under wraps to avoid the inevitable rumor mill but last night's gig in Okeechobee FL officially marks the beginning of a new chapter.We're all very sad to say that after nearly four years Laur Joamets has decided it's time to move on to pursue greener pastures and a gig with little more wiggle room for him to stretch out. It's been a pleasure and an honor watching him grow into one of the baddest guitar players on the planet and everyone in the band wishes him the best in his future endeavors. To be completely honest, I realized last night how much I've missed playing electric guitar without even knowing it so I guess as they say, "it was time".I'm also proud to say that Little Joe recently became the proud owner of a US green card and is working towards officially becoming a "Muhrican".Everyone in the band wishes him the absolute best in both his life and career and we cant wait to see what he does with his incredible talents.It has also been an honor and a priviledge playing with the New Orleans horns boys (Brad Walker, Jon Ramm, Scott Frock) but sadly after touring nearly the entire world, every late night tv program and the Grammy's I felt it was time to move on from the sonic template of ASGTE and get started on "what's next". We all had a wonderful year with them and made some great friends for life. Who knows,..maybe I'll get an itching for the dirty brass again down the road.With all that said, gonna be keeping it lean & mean with Miles, Chuck, & Bob this year. After all,..heavy times calls for heavy music.See ya on the road!!
― alpine static, Monday, 6 March 2017 02:26 (seven years ago) link
My understanding is that he was never really a country guy, and had to figure out ways to fit his chops into Sturgill's songs. Obviously it worked out well for everyone.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 March 2017 03:55 (seven years ago) link
Kind of interesting going with the smaller band for these bigger shows.
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 6 March 2017 04:45 (seven years ago) link
A change is a good thing. Joamets is a great player, but so is Sturgill.
― van smack, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 01:48 (seven years ago) link
https://www.avclub.com/watch-country-music-shit-starter-sturgill-simpson-busk-1820297790
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 9 November 2017 21:01 (six years ago) link
Probably due a new one soon, no?
I've been listening a lot to his last one. What a weird record. Wish the Nirvana cover wasn't on it. "Call to Arms" is totally his riff on "Life During Wartime," right?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 May 2019 13:21 (five years ago) link
wtf happened with this guy
― Οὖτις, Monday, 22 July 2019 16:24 (four years ago) link
He's putting out an anime movie on Netflix.
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Monday, 22 July 2019 16:34 (four years ago) link
...based off his "Sleazy" new Rock album.
― frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 22 July 2019 16:36 (four years ago) link
hence my befuddlement
― Οὖτις, Monday, 22 July 2019 16:38 (four years ago) link
https://www.whiskeyriff.com/2019/07/21/sturgill-simpson-announces-new-sleazy-steamy-rock-album-sound-fury-out-this-fall-along-with-anime-movie/
― frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 22 July 2019 16:39 (four years ago) link
Disappointed my thread taking off of this one's title didn't, er, take off: The Margo Price c/d
― frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 22 July 2019 16:41 (four years ago) link
All the DMT trips with Joe Rogan finally caught up with him.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 22 July 2019 17:01 (four years ago) link
wtf happened with this guy― Οὖτις, Monday, July 22, 2019 9:24 AM (four hours ago)
― Οὖτις, Monday, July 22, 2019 9:24 AM (four hours ago)
idk exactly what's so befuddling, but i fully trust Stu's taste, vision, etc. looking forward to this.
will be interesting to see if he sits down for interviews with the big outlets. he swore them off forever at one point, iirc?
― alpine static, Monday, 22 July 2019 20:30 (four years ago) link
Ha ha, I think this is all awesome news. I went back to his most recent album not long ago and, while I could do without the Nirvana cover, the rest is this awesome country-psych-soul trip that I really dig. So can't wait to hear what he does next.
xpost Why did he swear off interviews?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 July 2019 20:56 (four years ago) link
what's befuddling is he used to have good ideas, and now it seems like all he has are bad ideas
― Οὖτις, Monday, 22 July 2019 21:02 (four years ago) link
i fully trust Stu's taste, vision, etc.
Really? Even with a Netflix anime movie based on a "sleazy" rock album?
Trust is cool, but I just hope his taste and vision etcetera doesn't lead some of the more impressionable Stu-heads down a path towards full-on fedoras 'n swords.
― del griffith, Monday, 22 July 2019 21:10 (four years ago) link
impressionable Stu-heads down a path towards full-on fedoras 'n swords.
That seems an.... interesting leap. From what I've read, he recorded the album first and came up with the anime idea later, so I'm willing to give it a listen in good faith before assuming its a miss.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 22 July 2019 21:13 (four years ago) link
it's a pretty plausible leap when you're leaping from Joe Rogan and DMT
― del griffith, Monday, 22 July 2019 21:15 (four years ago) link
I honestly can't see or hear Joe Rogan's name without it immediately being followed in my head by "I smoke rocks"
― Οὖτις, Monday, 22 July 2019 21:20 (four years ago) link
Didn't he also contribute the titular song for that Jarmusch zombie flick?
― octobeard, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 08:25 (four years ago) link
new single is...interesting
― jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 17:02 (four years ago) link
did dan auerbach somehow get his grubby hands on our precious sturge?
the anime thing seems really stupid but I kinda like the song
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 17:14 (four years ago) link