Lily Allen - This summers biggest racist?

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I still have no fucking idea who Keith Allen is (he is fat? And affluent? Or something?), and bullshit PR tactics aren't exactly unique to her. The whole thing makes me feel either too old or too young, I can't figure out which.

In the end I'm assuming it all comes down to Lily seeming like a peer and this opening her up to a whole bunch of criticisms that wouldn't normally be applied to anyone else (as happened with the Strokes) but jeeeez.

― Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

Keith Allen co-wrote a couple of football songs in the nineties which sold quite well.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

A peer? Are your parents famous media people too?

― Sploshette Moxy (Dada), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

Please, my parents weren't modeling agency owners and I didn't go to private school but I still recognized that I was in roughly the same social group as the Strokes for all intents and purposes (white college-educated kids with parents to fall back on, living in New York and being artsy) and that the fact that I had been around people like that for a certain portion of my life allowed me to assume certain things about them that I couldn't about, say, Master P. Familiarity breeds you-know-what.

― Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

if only Lily would team up with her Dad for a reworking of 'Tickle Tune' we could have the best Christmas #1 ever and credibility restored.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

TS: Giles Coren vs AA Gill (20 new answers)

― Sploshette Moxy (Dada), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

TS: Victoria Coren vs Nicola Formby (1679 new answers)

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

the strokes also had shitty music.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

TS: Roddy McMillan vs Andy McEvoy (-2 new answers)

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

Has anybody noticed the difference between the album and the myspace versions of "Smile"? I like the latter a lot more and I don't know where else I can find it. Any info?

The album and singles all suck because the songs have been rerecorded to avoid sampling lawsuits!! I don't think the MySpace versions have been commercially released in any form. Even the original limited-edition 7" of "LDN"/"Knock 'Em Out" is re-recorded! And not only does it not contain the "AIDS! AIDS! I've got AIDS!" bit, it fades out right after "I gotta go. My house is on fire." It doesn't even get to "I've got syphilus" before it fades out completely!! Not to mention the fact that the production on the re-recorded tracks is too damn shiny. It sounds like a fucking ABBA record! I want my Lily Allen to sound all lo-fi, like they're being played on the very same 1980s old-school boombox that Lily's jamming to on the album cover. You can't listen to no impeccably-produced pop songs on a boombox like that!!

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

Yes but EMI can't make any money out of lo-fi being played on a 1980s old-school boombox, see Go! Team QED.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

Word!

― Sploshette Moxy (Dada), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:16 (nineteen years ago)

also lo-fi reggaei-lite with AIDS references sounds EVEN WORSE than what she actually released.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, at least Typically Tropical didn't put any AIDS references in "Barbados."

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

High. The only thing that could possibly be better than lo-fi reggae-lite would be lo-fi reggae-lite with AIDS references.

― fuckfuckingfuckedfucker (fuckfuckingfuckedfucker), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

i haven't criticised lallen on class grounds at all (though dom and marcello have). to be honest the mockney accent is massively grating to me, but i don't give a shit about her realness (i contend that her realness - in the sense that she writes the songs herself and so on, rather than she's lived the life herself - is more important to those who like her). i'm well aware that if i liked the music i'd forgove most of it in a heartbeat (i like MIA innit). but her MUSIC SOUNDS TERRIBLE and the lyrics mostly make me cringe.

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

No! Her music is great and the lyrics are funny!

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

You're mixing "her" up with Billy Connolly.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

"You can't knock em out. You can't walk away.
Try desperately to think of the politest way to say,
'Just get out my face. Just leave me alone.
And no you cant have me number. Cause I lost my phone.'"

Come on. That's a GREAT verse!!

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

It doesn't scan.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

it's not very good.

tbh NEITHER IS PARIS HILTON

but it's just very, very underwhelming.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

Are you serious? (xxpost) LOL

― Sploshette Moxy (Dada), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

i have no idea what music you like from this decade, Enrique.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

me neither.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

well, plenty of tings up to about 2003, but when i started reading ilx i went right off music.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

And no you cant have me number. Cause I lost my phone.'

With the expensive education she'd had i would expect better English than this! Tut tut!

― Sploshette Moxy (Dada), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

well, plenty of tings up to about 2003, but when i started reading ilx i went right off music.

LIKE WHAT?

why did ILX put you off music?

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

i liked basement jaxx and the neptunes and goldfrapp and um y'know whatever random r'n'b i heard + liked.

ilm's overload of STUFF and OPINIONS put me off. i don't like talking about music -- but tbh already by that point was kind of adrift, with dance music, and hip hop, and HATED the garage revival, post-strokes thing.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

k thx

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

i don't like talking about music

You do realise you are on a message board for talking about music?

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

Is Lily Allen the voice of that "I need a man to stick it out.... Oohooohho, think slow (shaboom, shaboom)" song? Sorry if this shows my ignorance!

― JTS (JTS), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

On that NME cover, she looks like Jade Goody.

― JTS (JTS), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

No offence to her, it's just not a good photo.

― JTS (JTS), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 21:03 (nineteen years ago)

This album is OK, and has at least 3 or 4 really great tracks. So definitely not album of the year, but there's nothing wrong with it.

― zeus (zeus), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 21:35 (nineteen years ago)

Is Lily Allen the voice of that "I need a man to stick it out.... Oohooohho, think slow (shaboom, shaboom)" song? Sorry if this shows my ignorance!

wow. i think you're thinking of "mushaboom" by leslie feist. they couldn't be more different.

― william, it was really nothing (superpopelectro), Thursday, 27 July 2006 01:50 (nineteen years ago)

It's on the "Silentnight" mattress advert, if it helps.

― JTS (JTS), Thursday, 27 July 2006 02:35 (nineteen years ago)

'[the album] ends with a song called “Alfie” that makes you lose all faith in this country, a horrific “supply teacher trying to act cool to his third period class” piece of “yeah, weed makes you TIRED, innit blood” that destroys any hope that Allen could have Been Something.'

This is baffling - surely everyone has at some point known someone who smoked so much weed they weren't fun any more? It's not like she makes any generalisations about drugs.

― Nedpoleon (NedBeauman), Thursday, 27 July 2006 06:20 (nineteen years ago)

chris moyles just played the Vile version, and then to make matters even worse he did his own ..

― mark e (mark e), Thursday, 27 July 2006 07:06 (nineteen years ago)

Bitter and vindictive? It's a break-up album for heaven's sake! When did ILM become such a bunch of milquetoasts?!

this might be the real crux of it. if yall actually *read* dom's review, the rub isn't (just) that she's a well-connected media daughter with a private education, it's that she comes across as really unpleasant.

i take jerry's point but she goes beyond the call of break-up album duty. the video for 'smile' is like a sped-up ep of 'hollyoaks' or something. horrible.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Thursday, 27 July 2006 07:31 (nineteen years ago)

Hello..
You really think I'm niiiiiiice...
but when you play it twiiiiiice...
you'll see the inner viiiiiiice...

There. Done. Don't have to actually record it.

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 27 July 2006 07:34 (nineteen years ago)

chris moyles just played the Vile version, and then to make matters even worse he did his own ..

you're listening to him whY?

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 27 July 2006 08:48 (nineteen years ago)

It's true love.

― alext (alext), Thursday, 27 July 2006 08:58 (nineteen years ago)

She ain't nasty, she just don't brook no shit from scummy men. Go sister!

I like the album, but she's going to be a better actress than pop star.

― Pete W (peterw), Thursday, 27 July 2006 09:15 (nineteen years ago)

...a comparable reinvention of the musical wheel...

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Thursday, 27 July 2006 09:20 (nineteen years ago)

you're listening to him whY?

yeah - i know, dreadful thing to admit, but was taking the offspring to childcare, which isn't far enough to power up the mp3 player - so easy option.

― mark e (mark e), Thursday, 27 July 2006 09:24 (nineteen years ago)

Lilly Allen = good.
-- Dom Passantino (juror...), March 16th, 2006.

SEE ME

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Thursday, 27 July 2006 09:24 (nineteen years ago)

sounds like dom and i had a similar experience. for 2/3 weeks i loved the album, then something clicked and the nastiness/unpleasantness really came home, the video subsequently sealed my opinion.

― mark e (mark e), Thursday, 27 July 2006 09:30 (nineteen years ago)

Loved the album for a month and LOVE IT STILL!

can't see the fuss either from the haytaz. the same people never ever mention the background of your thom yorkes or your mike skinners but suddenly it's a *girl* and everyone's got their
knickers in a twist.

and that paris hilton song i've just heard BY THE WAY and let me tell you it stinks. BLOODY AWFUL it is.

― pisces (piscesx), Thursday, 27 July 2006 12:24 (nineteen years ago)

the same people never ever mention the background of your thom yorkes or your mike skinners but suddenly it's a *girl* and everyone's got their knickers in a twist.

yes. yes, that's what it is.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Thursday, 27 July 2006 12:27 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, nobody ever called Mike Skinner out on his accent Pisces, that's a pretty salient observation.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 27 July 2006 12:28 (nineteen years ago)

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