^ I can respect that, but it's hard to believe there can't be some aspect of marketing (supply and demand) to this.
― Everything Moves Towards The Sun (Ross), Friday, 23 December 2016 22:59 (seven years ago) link
Does this mean we can expect a new Grouper album in 2017?
― Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Friday, 23 December 2016 23:40 (seven years ago) link
There are days where I think the AIA double album is my favorite ever.
― Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Friday, 23 December 2016 23:41 (seven years ago) link
Sorry for shitposting but the new one sounds like an abandoned liz phair demo from '92
― calstars, Friday, 23 December 2016 23:43 (seven years ago) link
the interview i quoted mentions these songs are from 2012 !, + i think when albums come out has been similarly quantum. i saw her sometime this year & she played all new material + one song from ruins rearranged. it was rly beautiful.
i can't get w a marketing/supply & demand critique bc supply .......................... did not meet demand ................................................................................................................. lol
― schlump, Saturday, 24 December 2016 00:01 (seven years ago) link
yeah schlump, i'm talking out of my ass, apologies
― Everything Moves Towards The Sun (Ross), Saturday, 24 December 2016 00:04 (seven years ago) link
sry 2 thread police guyidk if it is q the same w 7"s but she is v diligent abt reissuing lps i think, so it is frustrating to miss out but eventually you get like a fourth pressing or w/ei get way more bummed by boomkat taking veblen pricing strategiestho maybe i'm wrong there too + it is a lot of work to answer all the enquiries &cwho knowsfeels so nice to hear new grouper
― schlump, Saturday, 24 December 2016 00:27 (seven years ago) link
Somehow I got one of the last ten she was selling on bandcamp, so I'm not complaining for once!
― Evan, Saturday, 24 December 2016 00:37 (seven years ago) link
sweet interview, thanks for sharing schlump!
― flappy bird, Saturday, 24 December 2016 03:52 (seven years ago) link
Fuck, I LOVE Headache. Just gorgeous.
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 04:09 (seven years ago) link
Head's up: limited ed of 250 Ruins lp repress plus bonus cd
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 6 January 2017 10:45 (seven years ago) link
Came here to drunkenly post about how great Alien Observer is. I didn't even know there was a new single people rated so much.
AIA is a great couple of records though. The sky here is bright with cold at midnight. I think that's what made me put them on.
― kraudive, Saturday, 14 January 2017 00:23 (seven years ago) link
Perfect.
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Saturday, 14 January 2017 00:38 (seven years ago) link
new grouper single https://grouper.bandcamp.com/album/water-people
if you're reading this on feb 3 i think grouper's proceeds go to NoDAPL and bandcamp proceeds go to the ACLU
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 3 February 2017 17:20 (seven years ago) link
Rerelease of an older single:
https://www.discogs.com/Grouper-Water-People/master/878532
But yes, nice to see!
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 3 February 2017 17:23 (seven years ago) link
ah yes
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 3 February 2017 18:04 (seven years ago) link
Nice! Water People is a fantastic song.
― flappy bird, Friday, 3 February 2017 18:19 (seven years ago) link
two older releases on Spotify that I hadn't previously noticed - Violet Replacement part 1 and 2
Both one album length track
― I am using your worlds, Friday, 3 February 2017 23:03 (seven years ago) link
i fell asleep to both of those (along w/ alien observer) every night for a year
― flappy bird, Friday, 3 February 2017 23:05 (seven years ago) link
part of that was released on vinyl:
https://www.discogs.com/Grouper-Sleep-Fragment/release/3808592
so good
― sleeve, Friday, 3 February 2017 23:06 (seven years ago) link
man i'd ruin a needle so quick with that one
― flappy bird, Friday, 3 February 2017 23:07 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLsutIhq3_o
― flappy bird, Friday, 19 May 2017 07:20 (seven years ago) link
she is playing here next month which is something i never really expected to happen and i am beyond excited
― ufo, Friday, 19 May 2017 08:51 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eT0iL_7avQA
― flappy bird, Monday, 19 June 2017 06:43 (seven years ago) link
https://grouper.bandcamp.com/track/children
New Grouper! It's a Ruins outtake. All proceeds in the next 24 hours go towards the Silvia Rivera Law Center, Transgender Law Center and Trans Assistance Project
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Friday, 4 August 2017 07:21 (six years ago) link
Beautiful song
― flappy bird, Friday, 4 August 2017 16:25 (six years ago) link
just got an email from yellowelectric, there's a bunch of old inventory up on her bandcamp. i got the Alien Observer LP for $30, only 8 left!
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 16:42 (six years ago) link
Good new interview
https://www.emilyelhaj.com/lovelionmusic/2017/09/interview-with-liz-harris-of-grouper.html
And she's playing here in SF in a couple of weeks.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 17:11 (six years ago) link
whoa, i wonder what this is:
I recently licensed a song to a television show [you guys are going to flip].
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 17:16 (six years ago) link
great interview btw, thanks for sharing ned
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 17:17 (six years ago) link
What is your dream job outside of playing music?
My dream job is not performing music. Most of my job ideas are more non-paying adventures than careers. I took a career test in my twenties and remember “related to the spirituality or the occult/religious leader” and “sailor." I’ve followed through on “sailor” --- I love very much being on the water. I do sailing races on my friend’s boat every summer in Astoria and am looking into getting a small boat with an electric outboard to toot around the Columbia River.
I’d like to get a shit job on a container ship or find a sailboat to crew on and do a trans-oceanic voyage at some point before I die. I volunteer at a National Park here in Astoria. Basically, I just pick up trash and kick rocks off the trails but I get to wear a uniform and use a walkie-talkie which is about 80% of the pleasure if I’m entirely honest. I’d really like to drive in a car race or demolition derby. I’d like to be paid to walk around or hike. My month-long hiking trip in New Zealand two years ago definitely cost me money though so still some work to be done there I guess. So far, as paying jobs go -- I spent my 20’s working with differently abled adults and I miss it every day. I love care-work, with children, elders, animals, whomever. It feels challenging and rewarding in a straightforward way that music doesn’t.
― nomar, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 18:03 (six years ago) link
I will be at early show. :)
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 20:33 (six years ago) link
Same here!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 20:56 (six years ago) link
i'm still deciding whether i'm going to the early show or the late show depending on if i want to catch JEANNE DIELMAN showing at BAMPFA that same evening
― joshywinty (josh), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 23:33 (six years ago) link
Go to both shows
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 01:34 (six years ago) link
okay, i chose the early show -- say hello if you see someone roughly 5'6 with a buzzed head
― joshywinty (josh), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 05:27 (six years ago) link
old items getting restocked is great and all but shit i got two email notifications from bandcamp on my phone today saying "New Items from Grouper" and each time I got super excited thinking a new single from a possible upcoming album was on it's way, but no :(
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 05:37 (six years ago) link
nothing on a new single and/or album (though she's doing a project that will be performed during this year's Unsound), but a very nice interview: https://lovelionmusic.blogspot.com/2017/09/interview-with-liz-harris-of-grouper.html
― willem, Thursday, 14 September 2017 14:29 (six years ago) link
what i did get to hear of liz last night was lovely . . . but, dearest brooklyn scenesters, why would you go to a grouper show . . . and talk the whole way through it? ugh― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, April 17, 2011 9:03 AM (six years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, April 17, 2011 9:03 AM (six years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i read this post and immediately knew which show this was
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQO3iISbSqA
fucking crowd sucks
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 06:03 (six years ago) link
Same thing happened at DARK MOFO in Hobart until someone a few rows from the front turned around and bawled SHUT THE FUCK UP. I love Grouper irrationally, but I often listen to the music at overwhelming volume for the sensory overload feeling, and I was looking forward to being able to lose myself in the live performance. It was beautiful but I kept getting distracted by fuckheads more interested in themselves than the music they'd paid to see, and I couldn't help wishing for a little help from the stage. I understand what's special about a room of hushed people listening to soft music, but if I'm completely honest it feels a little wilful to play that quietly.
I'll get me coat.
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Wednesday, 27 September 2017 07:08 (six years ago) link
I know, she plays very quietly. I saw her in a chapel at UVA two years ago that held 250 people, & even with a completely silent & reverential crowd, it was remarkably quiet in the back. I felt like I was straining to hear during the set.
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 07:39 (six years ago) link
when i saw her it was a perfect volume, loud & encompassing without being uncomfortable
― ufo, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 07:47 (six years ago) link
Thankfully the show the other day here was 1) fantastic 2) had a deathly quiet audience and we were all the happier for it.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 13:12 (six years ago) link
Did you recognize any of the material she played? Or was it all one lovely gauzy blur?
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 14:12 (six years ago) link
I definitely recognised things - maybe 2-3 songs - but often radically rearranged (e.g. Ruins material played as guitar ostinatos, recognised them from lyrics).
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Wednesday, 27 September 2017 21:30 (six years ago) link
also continuous, beautiful projected images behind the stage - thematically matched to what I think about her music, which is like hazy memories of beautiful songs.
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Wednesday, 27 September 2017 22:11 (six years ago) link
she played "holding" from RUINS and "fishing bird" from DRAGGING A DEAD DEER
― joshywinty (josh), Wednesday, 27 September 2017 23:15 (six years ago) link
Fishing Bird???? whoa. that's pretty remarkable. was Holding the guitar arrangement? when I saw her 2 years ago, she opened with Alien Observer and played mostly Ruins stuff like Holding and Labyrinth (complete with microwave beep).
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 23:25 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XyJB1qq9zw&
― flappy bird, Saturday, 30 September 2017 06:25 (six years ago) link
I’ve always wondered are the dark circle under her eyes makeup or she doesn’t sleep that much? In some pictures they look natural but they keep changing size and then in others she doesn’t seem to have them at all.
― âś–âś–âś– (Moka), Saturday, 30 September 2017 09:19 (six years ago) link