Music Criticism in Video Form

wow good to know my irrational dislike of fantano was always rational

hah alot of that video was shot at what used to be a DIY venue called Couch Couch. the place was tiny.

which is funny cos there used to be a giant picture of the Beatles above that stairway.

this guys a total idiot tho, half this video is about how the song doesn't sound like The Beatles. like, no shit man

i am not about to spend time watching the videos on that Fantanto alt account, but just looking at the titles, is it possible that it's poorly executed satire of views he does not actually hold? for example, isn't he in fact vegan?

No, it's not possible, I watched some of them (regrettably).

The satire is aimed at criticizing "SJWs", generally. He holds the views. I know it seems like I was researching the guy here but really this was maybe 20 minutes tops of curiosity last week.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a39uDiht3tY

Also keep in mind that the SJW video I originally l linked was not a compilation of existing videos. All of the participants contributed to it (they were answering questions given to them). He chooses to call these people peers so its safe to say there is a lot of ideology overlap among them.

wow good to know my irrational dislike of fantano was always rational

LOL I made this *exact* comment in tweet form a few days back

todd in the shadows was discussed upthread at some point. i have stopped watching his videos, but they were occasionally insightful/entertaining even if his opinions/biases are very run-of-the-mill/blah. like his taste and values are nearly as bro-ey as fantano's (tho he would likely be aghast to be described as bro-ey) but at least he doesn't seem to be an awful person.

i am almost 100% sure he reads some of the writer-ilxors out there and may even stalk this forum sometimes! despite this i think he has managed to express positive opinions about more macklemore songs than about rap songs by any other artist combined.

Still prefer him over The Rap Critic.

wow ffs he's even doing that chin pinch thing in the thumbnail of that video

looking back it seems the clue that something was off & permanently dumb as shit was probably "this guy wants to do music criticism in the form of YouTube uploads"

and yes btw I'm keenly aware that he's spoken well of Joan Crawford at some point so Whiney you can stuff that arrow right back in yr quiver, you mug

imagining this dude shouting "No. Wire. Hangers. EVER!" in the middle of one of his reviews is surprisingly entertaining

I've been aware of Fantano as a name that crops up every so often in places on the internet where music discussion is taking place, but I've never once understood why people consider his opinions worth paying attention to. I've never once found myself interested in what Fantano thinks about... well, anything. I did watch a couple of his reviews a couple of years ago and I didn't find what he had to say particularly enlightening or engaging. Just as well, since apparently according to this thread he's a bit of a douche.

Flappy bird's sudden U-turn from being a passionate, heart-on-sleeve defender of Fantano to suddenly being irked by the way he grabs his chin (of all things) was a blessing to witness, though.

turkin

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/Inuxx/STINKPIECE_zpspv5yfw9u.png

we're gonna have music gamergate by July

I think if that were to happen it would be based off of pubs looking for strictly negative/positive pitches re certain records (as mentioned in the Hardwired thread). I think if that provably happened with certain artists that could really set off some shit.

(I'm not arguing *for* pubs getting dragged over it, I'm just saying it's a scenario.)

we're gonna have music gamergate by July

pr8z@k tried to get something going on this front last year but it came to nothing

It doesn't happen the same way w music because even the most entitled music nerd doesn't have this claim on being a real original music fan whose culture is being taken from them. Literally everyone on earth is in some capacity a fan of music & that's not true of vgs

Well except the deaf I suppose

Point is gamergate relied on this myth that doesn't operate in the music world

I dunno, if you take in account like Candy Crush and shit, I wouldn't be surprised if "gaming" had more active participants than music fandom in 2017

Like I bet the number of people who spent money on a video game >>>>> people who spent money on a streaming service/MP3/CD/vinyl and please no one Kool Aid Man in here with some fantasy of innumerable Midwestern normies torrenting their Adele bootlegs because you lived in a dorm once

and the leap isn't necessarily to "real music fan" but to "real music" fan, god knows there's enough of those fucks ever-ready to circle the studded leather wagons

and Whiney's right, what used to be the "casual gaming" market is fucking enormous now, my 75 year-old mom loves to play match 3 games and she hasn't got any real interest in popular music since the mid 1970s

but this is to pretend that Gamergate had any legitimate foundation beyond "white man-babies don't like being told that their cool culture might be offensive to non-white non-man-babies"

it didn't rely on any myth for longer than 2 seconds it was instantly "waaaaah SJWs want to take away my Call of Duty porn"

I'm psyched for the day Neutral Milk Hotel is considered un-woke.

my absolute favorite part about gamergate was that the ENTIRE THING was LITERALLY started because a handful of internet manbabies had some insane tantrum because (enormous gasp here) some videogame designer likes the dick and then the New York Times put it on the front page

Woman Enjoys Dick, Men Inexplicably Mad: Are Video Games In Crisis?

sure i once saw some long-running reddit or ktt thread where lifetime pitchforkers were raging/doxxing at every meaghan garvey rap rvw or whatever

I doubt there's many good scandals in the completely dull world of music writing anyway. Most publicists will tell you the majority of music writers don't even go to shows and I think all the constant Tweeting about award shows and Westworld plays out that they're mostly a bunch of shut-ins.

The entire thing might be played out via buying power once the unscrupulous CEOs that actually own music sites notice the Fantano/RYM numbers and realize that anti-cuck/anti-patrician/anti-SJW rants will mean more engaged viewers and unique hits than woke thinkpieces

if there's something that makes "alt music" safer than games from a protopolitical phenom like this it's that alt music's audience hasn't been systematically fed for decades on a diet of literally solipsistic power fantasies while the gap between these fantasies and the players' actual experienced lives grew and grew -- on the other hand it def thinks it's better than everyone so who knows whee

and Whiney's right, what used to be the "casual gaming" market is fucking enormous now, my 75 year-old mom loves to play match 3 games and she hasn't got any real interest in popular music since the mid 1970s

― Rock Wokeman (Noodle Vague), Saturday, January 7, 2017 1:43 PM (twenty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah but that's my point video games have become like music, music was always like music

Nerds more likely to attach themselves to particular genre myths than "our overall popular music culture is being stolen"

(also even fantano is regularly exposed to images of nonwhites that have actually been created by nonwhites) xp

alt music's audience hasn't been systematically fed for decades on a diet of literally solipsistic power fantasies

i think the number of sensitive alt-types who turn out to be irl date rapists actually plays this out, but just with a different type of cosplay

Anyway, I def feel like the nearly 200,000 people that watched this video represent some kind of "silent majority" for alternative music nerds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqiY1YR4X-o

And someone is either going to figure out how to mobilize them or monetize them

lol whiney i kept it to a screencap for a reason

(but i also watched it, so. btw the whole thing is about denying the proposition that "alt" means "racist", like at a linguistic level: "alt-r&b" is made by black people, etc. nobody here has the life-minutes to burn.)

anyway otm that "games", broadly defined, are m/l For Everyone now and that was/is p much the whole problem.

200k ppl = "majority" is a pretty odd claim imo, that # of ppl who like that music would have to be almost infinitesimally small in the broader picture for that # to be a majority of any kind or even to imagine that it represents a majority who's not watching the video

i didn't have the life-minutes to burn on Fantano before i knew he was a bigot

fyi i am pro-social justice, pro-safe spaces, pro-diversity (and in certain circumstances positive discrimination), anti-harassment and anti-asshole

alas, too long for a display name

200,000 is certainly more people than watch a lot of the music videos by so-called indie rock darlings and certainly more than read a lot of the thinkpieces he's raging against.

I know it's not a real majority, but in the tiny insular world of five different sites posting WATCH THE NEW VIDEO FROM PHILADELPHIA SHRUG-ROCK BAND FERRNGULLLY it's basically Chewbacca mom

lol

but seriously the official video from the last bon iver album has 27 million views. this dude's paltry 200k are not on that level.

jesus christ that's 200 losers with a lot of time on their hands

I'm n-Ott gonna do a forensics breakdown but I can find some very well written about indie rock bands and very music-Twitter spicy takes that don't have 200,000 views