Music Criticism in Video Form

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Oh good call!

Evan, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:52 (seven years ago) link

i guess i misunderstood this video, am i the only one? i thought this was making fun of this POV, admittedly i watched 2/3rds and didn't read anything about it.

alpine static, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 19:14 (seven years ago) link

Sadly it is not satire

Evan, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 19:19 (seven years ago) link

holy shit, then!

alpine static, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 19:28 (seven years ago) link

what y'all think about this asshole?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xva6KUM2aWo

altony rightano (voodoo chili), Monday, 19 December 2016 18:45 (seven years ago) link

Never understood the hate for Fantano. That 'SJW' attack video is def gross, but what does that have to do with his work as a music critic? Hysterical criticism of Fantano always struck me as anonymous music/pop culture writers getting salty that someone managed to become successful on their own terms with name/face recognition.

flappy bird, Monday, 19 December 2016 18:53 (seven years ago) link

Never understood the hate for Fantano. That 'SJW' attack video is def gross, but what does that have to do with his work as a music critic?

Ugh I know right? Same way Hitler was treated iirc. He did some gross things but mein gott could he paint amirite?

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 19 December 2016 18:57 (seven years ago) link

Managed forty seconds of that video, my god

illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Monday, 19 December 2016 19:00 (seven years ago) link

wow that guy in the shadows is fuckin hateful

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Monday, 19 December 2016 19:01 (seven years ago) link

oh, please! what does he say in that video that is so terrible? it's everybody else. guilt by association - Xgau is much more crass on a regular basis in his actual reviews.

xp

flappy bird, Monday, 19 December 2016 19:03 (seven years ago) link

Just dawned on me this week that needle drop guy is uncommonly beautiful. Looks much better with a shaved head though.

― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, December 29, 2015

salthigh, Monday, 19 December 2016 19:03 (seven years ago) link

the immediate Hitler comparison was hilarious though, thank u

flappy bird, Monday, 19 December 2016 19:04 (seven years ago) link

it wasn't so much him but that video was completely unwatchable

illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Monday, 19 December 2016 19:05 (seven years ago) link

I'm not gonna pass up on a good clean Godwin if it's presented on a gold platter, yw xp

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 19 December 2016 19:05 (seven years ago) link

animated knight w robot voice hectoring in threatening monotone srsly going to haunt my every dream

illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Monday, 19 December 2016 19:06 (seven years ago) link

ban flappy bird

clouds, Monday, 19 December 2016 19:09 (seven years ago) link

@imago - Well, yeah. but so what? i don't watch his reviews regularly, but i don't hate him. people have had this visceral reaction the guy since he showed up on youtube (this thread!) and i can't figure it out. i get it, he's annoying, but he became successful on his own terms, built a following, and like i said, anonymous/faceless critics loathe him.

flappy bird, Monday, 19 December 2016 19:10 (seven years ago) link

Why did the white men pick a creepy ambient drone as background music for their amazing questions?

jmm, Monday, 19 December 2016 19:11 (seven years ago) link

i will cop to sometimes seeing what score he's given something if not his actual reviews. he tends to dominate the critical discourse for a lot of stuff i like. but there is undoubtedly something off about him

illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Monday, 19 December 2016 19:12 (seven years ago) link

imago, maybe its time you do a little self-reflection, bub

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 19 December 2016 19:13 (seven years ago) link

If that video itself doesn't do it for you I stumbled on plenty others at the same time in the same vein that I can link if you want to pick and choose your favorite.

Evan, Monday, 19 December 2016 19:14 (seven years ago) link

of Fantano going off on SJWs or whatever in a more explicit way? feel free - i wouldn't be surprised, but people being embarrassed or sheepish about paying attention to this guy's popular video blog is so weak. it just strikes me as jealous, sour grapes critics reacting to someone who's 'lame.' who cares?

flappy bird, Monday, 19 December 2016 19:16 (seven years ago) link

the way he hates safe spaces is SO LAME

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 19 December 2016 19:17 (seven years ago) link

what you on about whiney? sure i went a bit out of line accusing the fader of performative trendy sex-positive hipster wokeness gone mad!!1 but i've said sorry, acknowledged my sins etc - in what fucking universe am i comparable to these creepy fucking hateful goons?

illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Monday, 19 December 2016 19:19 (seven years ago) link

xp i agree, but again, what does that have to do with his music reviews? lemme know once Fantano reaches Ott levels of creepiness

flappy bird, Monday, 19 December 2016 19:20 (seven years ago) link

Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwODmry0QWzgGrV0afGkEVLVZYmZWa1UF

Evan, Monday, 19 December 2016 19:22 (seven years ago) link

what you on about whiney? sure i went a bit out of line accusing the fader of performative trendy sex-positive hipster wokeness gone mad!!1 but i've said sorry, acknowledged my sins etc - in what fucking universe am i comparable to these creepy fucking hateful goons?

― illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Monday, December 19, 2016 2:19 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not calling u a goon! Just saying the Fader thing plus the obsession with Rate Your Music and Fantano scores means you're def hanging out in goon-y parts of the internet and I'm worried they might turn our beloved woke vaccuum enthusiast into a pepe

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 19 December 2016 19:23 (seven years ago) link

xp hahaha WHOA! i stand corrected. is that his alt-account or something?

flappy bird, Monday, 19 December 2016 19:23 (seven years ago) link

fyi i am pro-social justice, pro-safe spaces, pro-diversity (and in certain circumstances positive discrimination), anti-harassment and anti-asshole. with a few rough edges relating to perhaps false perception of some of the more extraverted forms of woke signalling. all the pepes are hateful horror cunts and i started the alt-right thread due to my horror of them

illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Monday, 19 December 2016 19:25 (seven years ago) link

xp hahaha WHOA! i stand corrected. is that his alt-account or something?

― flappy bird, Monday, December 19, 2016 7:23 PM (one second ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It took a YT channel chock full of alt-right shit to convince you? My Godwin wasn't enough? Sad!

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 19 December 2016 19:25 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, apparently some character he's created to rant about that sort of things and other internet topics

xps

Evan, Monday, 19 December 2016 19:25 (seven years ago) link

thing*

Evan, Monday, 19 December 2016 19:26 (seven years ago) link

i am going to clean up rym one comment box at a time

illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Monday, 19 December 2016 19:26 (seven years ago) link

It took a YT channel chock full of alt-right shit to convince you? My Godwin wasn't enough? Sad!

― Le Bateau Ivre

yep my spidey sense just wasn't going off before i saw that

flappy bird, Monday, 19 December 2016 19:28 (seven years ago) link

wait how does rym fit in here

ciderpress, Monday, 19 December 2016 19:31 (seven years ago) link

Fly on, flappy bird

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 19 December 2016 19:32 (seven years ago) link

http://files.gamebanana.com/img/ico/sprays/538578b593b47.gif

flappy bird, Monday, 19 December 2016 19:33 (seven years ago) link

<3

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 19 December 2016 19:34 (seven years ago) link

wow good to know my irrational dislike of fantano was always rational

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 19 December 2016 19:44 (seven years ago) link

hah alot of that video was shot at what used to be a DIY venue called Couch Couch. the place was tiny.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 03:06 (seven years ago) link

which is funny cos there used to be a giant picture of the Beatles above that stairway.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 03:07 (seven years ago) link

this guys a total idiot tho, half this video is about how the song doesn't sound like The Beatles. like, no shit man

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 03:13 (seven years ago) link

i am not about to spend time watching the videos on that Fantanto alt account, but just looking at the titles, is it possible that it's poorly executed satire of views he does not actually hold? for example, isn't he in fact vegan?

sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 15:11 (seven years ago) link

No, it's not possible, I watched some of them (regrettably).

MikoMcha, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 15:17 (seven years ago) link

The satire is aimed at criticizing "SJWs", generally. He holds the views. I know it seems like I was researching the guy here but really this was maybe 20 minutes tops of curiosity last week.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a39uDiht3tY

Also keep in mind that the SJW video I originally l linked was not a compilation of existing videos. All of the participants contributed to it (they were answering questions given to them). He chooses to call these people peers so its safe to say there is a lot of ideology overlap among them.

Evan, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 15:44 (seven years ago) link

wow good to know my irrational dislike of fantano was always rational

LOL I made this *exact* comment in tweet form a few days back

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 15:47 (seven years ago) link

todd in the shadows was discussed upthread at some point. i have stopped watching his videos, but they were occasionally insightful/entertaining even if his opinions/biases are very run-of-the-mill/blah. like his taste and values are nearly as bro-ey as fantano's (tho he would likely be aghast to be described as bro-ey) but at least he doesn't seem to be an awful person.

i am almost 100% sure he reads some of the writer-ilxors out there and may even stalk this forum sometimes! despite this i think he has managed to express positive opinions about more macklemore songs than about rap songs by any other artist combined.

dyl, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 16:20 (seven years ago) link

Still prefer him over The Rap Critic.

MarkoP, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 17:46 (seven years ago) link

wow ffs he's even doing that chin pinch thing in the thumbnail of that video

flappy bird, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 17:52 (seven years ago) link


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