They actually did do a decent job of it until the Out Door got the boot though.
― Position Position, Friday, December 9, 2016 12:04 PM (seventeen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I agree, that was one of the few things that I ever went to Pitchfork to read. Now I check in if I'm curious about Bill Murray or Solange or Stranger Things for some reason
― Wimmels, Friday, 9 December 2016 17:23 (seven years ago) link
agree that this site has declined since the conde nast deal but have you even listened to the solange album? why would it be out of scope for the site?
― I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Friday, 9 December 2016 17:48 (seven years ago) link
For one thing, I'm not really interested in pop music, generally speaking, but it isn't the pop music criticism that puts me off so much as the lifestyle reporting and obsession with celebrities doing celebrity things
― Wimmels, Friday, 9 December 2016 17:59 (seven years ago) link
the Solange album is not pop music. Glance at the Hot 100.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 December 2016 18:00 (seven years ago) link
Didn't Seat At The Table reach #1 in the States? I'm sorry to use Solange as an example because I know very little about her music other than it seems to appeal to a wider demo than the music I like usually appeals to. I have never once glanced at the Hot 100, for instance, and unless Esperanza or Miranda Lambert or Erykah Badu is on there (probably the most 'popular' albums I liked in 2016) I'm pretty sure I haven't listened to anything on it.
― Wimmels, Friday, 9 December 2016 18:06 (seven years ago) link
Badu had an album in 2016?
― A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Friday, 9 December 2016 18:11 (seven years ago) link
that's his point
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 December 2016 18:12 (seven years ago) link
thought his point was that Spalding, Lambert and Badu were "probably the most 'popular' albums I liked in 2016"?
― A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Friday, 9 December 2016 18:17 (seven years ago) link
http://the-out-door.tumblr.com/
― scott seward, Friday, 9 December 2016 18:26 (seven years ago) link
it wasn't on their experimental top 20 list, but that blessed initiative album that pfork reviewed today is a really great headphones listen - very tactile scrunchy foley artist music
― Rae Kwoniff (NickB), Friday, 9 December 2016 18:29 (seven years ago) link
the main thing i took from this thread is lex is pro-groping
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 9 December 2016 22:05 (seven years ago) link
that isn't remotely close to what I meant, come the fuck on
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Friday, 9 December 2016 22:09 (seven years ago) link
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, December 9, 2016 10:05 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Jesus Christ dude...
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 9 December 2016 22:13 (seven years ago) link
lmao
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 9 December 2016 22:38 (seven years ago) link
this experimental music playlist is extremely woke and incredibly boring
not even sure most of this is really all that experimental? it's certainly not making me think 'whoa, i've not heard much like this before!'
would endorse anna meredith as the compositions are dynamic and arresting, maybe elysia crampton is doing some cool stuff too and tt is telling me to persist with amnesia scanner (and there MIGHT be something to that jefre chap) but really 'pablum' is the word for most of this stuff, it's a bland morass.
i guess you take what you can from this stuff but it really is a disappointing show
― Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Saturday, 10 December 2016 11:33 (seven years ago) link
Oh haha wait here's Matmos :D
― Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Saturday, 10 December 2016 11:47 (seven years ago) link
Oh there's something to Moor Mother too now. SALVAGING SOMETHING AT THE DEATH
― Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Saturday, 10 December 2016 11:56 (seven years ago) link
i'll be honest with you, with something named "the out door" i expect a column dedicated to exploring the underwhelming final records by massively popular bands.
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Saturday, 10 December 2016 12:11 (seven years ago) link
would read that column actually
― Wimmels, Saturday, 10 December 2016 12:18 (seven years ago) link
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, December 9, 2016 10:05 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
?????
― lex pretend, Saturday, 10 December 2016 12:23 (seven years ago) link
if you're an unknown, ranking #100 on pitchfork's top 100 is orders of magnitude more valuable than ranking, say, #32
― Karl Malone, Monday, 12 December 2016 06:19 (seven years ago) link
because you're the first thing that people read, and in a position where people still have the attention span to read the entry instead of skimming over it
― Karl Malone, Monday, 12 December 2016 06:20 (seven years ago) link
just getting a lil deep about lil peep, sorry
― Karl Malone, Monday, 12 December 2016 06:22 (seven years ago) link
Lil Peep becoming a breakout star in 2017 would be a very interesting experience. I would bring out the popcorn for that
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 12 December 2016 06:33 (seven years ago) link
ok what is with this pandora sponsorship thing tbh
"sponsorship is evil" stuff aside.....pandora? really?
― austinb, Monday, 12 December 2016 06:41 (seven years ago) link
i honestly thought pitchfork and apple music were cushy so this is really weird to me, but maybe im totally off base
― austinb, Monday, 12 December 2016 06:42 (seven years ago) link
sweet #1 choice
― flappy bird, Monday, 12 December 2016 07:40 (seven years ago) link
Chance and Kanye have like ten appearances each on there
― Number None, Monday, 12 December 2016 08:09 (seven years ago) link
And there should've been more: Fade, Finish Line/Drown, Same Drugs, Father Stretch My Hands pt 1... great year for both of them, really
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 12 December 2016 08:17 (seven years ago) link
http://pitchfork.com/news/70394-adventure-time-islands-miniseries-announced/
so is this the first one that has nothing to do with music and doesn't even try to?
― Karl Malone, Monday, 12 December 2016 22:00 (seven years ago) link
Wait, what? I'm so confused. Why is there a news story about a children's TV show on there?
― Position Position, Monday, 12 December 2016 22:06 (seven years ago) link
hipster millennials love adventure time
― j., Monday, 12 December 2016 22:09 (seven years ago) link
Golden Globe nominees story was worse
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 02:46 (seven years ago) link
Pandora's about to roll out its on-demanding streaming service. First step is targeting the Whitney fans.
> ok what is with this pandora sponsorship thing tbh
― Frozen CD, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 02:47 (seven years ago) link
U GUYS
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 16:31 (seven years ago) link
http://cdn4.pitchfork.com/news/70351/c22ba646.jpg
tfw when your site advocates for marginalized voices all year but boss asks you to play nice with the internet's biggest gathering place of unrepentant racists, creep-shot enthusiasts and kid-touchers
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:08 (seven years ago) link
tfw when your site advocates for marginalized voices all year
i've said this before and i'll say it again
the more performatively woke an outlet, the more likely they are to treat (ALSO PAY) their inexperienced POC and LGBT writers badly
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:14 (seven years ago) link
Wut? Surely you're not suggesting they pay POC and LGBT writers less? I know the whole enterprise is crashing downhill, but that seems highly unlikely to me.
― Position Position, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:23 (seven years ago) link
no, and i'm not talking about pitchfork
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:24 (seven years ago) link
I'm lost now
― Evan, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:29 (seven years ago) link
performatively woke
stealing this phrase because it nails the dangerous tendency to treat social justice as a trend (by definition: inevitably displaced), which is why I wonder how many Bandcamp proceeds will be getting donated to progressive causes this time next year. Then again, I'm a cynic
― Wimmels, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:29 (seven years ago) link
"performative" as synonym for "inauthentic" really spread quickly
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:00 (seven years ago) link
it's not really a synonym imo
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:05 (seven years ago) link
that didn't seem implied to me
― Evan, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:07 (seven years ago) link
u can be inauthentic without being performative. imo "performative" speaks more to a style of social media behavior than the actual ideas that behavior is promoting. it's the personalized version of a fluff piece PR ad from Exxon about how they care about the environment and the future.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:08 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, that's what I was getting at. I guess I tend to have negative associations with the word 'performative' in this context
― Wimmels, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:09 (seven years ago) link
how can media be 'performatively' woke rather than just woke? all media is performance
― flopson, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:12 (seven years ago) link
When they are making a big deal out of it more than usual? Everything is relative.
― Evan, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:14 (seven years ago) link
but i mean... it's just words on a screen
― flopson, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:14 (seven years ago) link
Some you're saying it's only performative if you're saying it while waving your hands around in the air or something?
― Evan, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:19 (seven years ago) link