pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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cool that Kaitlyn Aurelia Pablum got that second placement

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Friday, 9 December 2016 17:06 (nine years ago)

all of these women, being ranked improperly

nomar, Friday, 9 December 2016 17:11 (nine years ago)

ikr where's katie gately

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Friday, 9 December 2016 17:12 (nine years ago)

nah I'll listen to their playlist I guess

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Friday, 9 December 2016 17:18 (nine years ago)

They actually did do a decent job of it until the Out Door got the boot though.

― Position Position, Friday, December 9, 2016 12:04 PM (seventeen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I agree, that was one of the few things that I ever went to Pitchfork to read. Now I check in if I'm curious about Bill Murray or Solange or Stranger Things for some reason

Wimmels, Friday, 9 December 2016 17:23 (nine years ago)

agree that this site has declined since the conde nast deal but have you even listened to the solange album? why would it be out of scope for the site?

I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Friday, 9 December 2016 17:48 (nine years ago)

For one thing, I'm not really interested in pop music, generally speaking, but it isn't the pop music criticism that puts me off so much as the lifestyle reporting and obsession with celebrities doing celebrity things

Wimmels, Friday, 9 December 2016 17:59 (nine years ago)

the Solange album is not pop music. Glance at the Hot 100.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 December 2016 18:00 (nine years ago)

Didn't Seat At The Table reach #1 in the States? I'm sorry to use Solange as an example because I know very little about her music other than it seems to appeal to a wider demo than the music I like usually appeals to. I have never once glanced at the Hot 100, for instance, and unless Esperanza or Miranda Lambert or Erykah Badu is on there (probably the most 'popular' albums I liked in 2016) I'm pretty sure I haven't listened to anything on it.

Wimmels, Friday, 9 December 2016 18:06 (nine years ago)

Badu had an album in 2016?

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Friday, 9 December 2016 18:11 (nine years ago)

that's his point

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 December 2016 18:12 (nine years ago)

thought his point was that Spalding, Lambert and Badu were "probably the most 'popular' albums I liked in 2016"?

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Friday, 9 December 2016 18:17 (nine years ago)

http://the-out-door.tumblr.com/

scott seward, Friday, 9 December 2016 18:26 (nine years ago)

it wasn't on their experimental top 20 list, but that blessed initiative album that pfork reviewed today is a really great headphones listen - very tactile scrunchy foley artist music

Rae Kwoniff (NickB), Friday, 9 December 2016 18:29 (nine years ago)

the main thing i took from this thread is lex is pro-groping

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 9 December 2016 22:05 (nine years ago)

that isn't remotely close to what I meant, come the fuck on

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Friday, 9 December 2016 22:09 (nine years ago)

the main thing i took from this thread is lex is pro-groping

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, December 9, 2016 10:05 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Jesus Christ dude...

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 9 December 2016 22:13 (nine years ago)

lmao

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 9 December 2016 22:38 (nine years ago)

this experimental music playlist is extremely woke and incredibly boring

not even sure most of this is really all that experimental? it's certainly not making me think 'whoa, i've not heard much like this before!'

would endorse anna meredith as the compositions are dynamic and arresting, maybe elysia crampton is doing some cool stuff too and tt is telling me to persist with amnesia scanner (and there MIGHT be something to that jefre chap) but really 'pablum' is the word for most of this stuff, it's a bland morass.

i guess you take what you can from this stuff but it really is a disappointing show

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Saturday, 10 December 2016 11:33 (nine years ago)

Oh haha wait here's Matmos :D

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Saturday, 10 December 2016 11:47 (nine years ago)

Oh there's something to Moor Mother too now. SALVAGING SOMETHING AT THE DEATH

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Saturday, 10 December 2016 11:56 (nine years ago)

i'll be honest with you, with something named "the out door" i expect a column dedicated to exploring the underwhelming final records by massively popular bands.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Saturday, 10 December 2016 12:11 (nine years ago)

would read that column actually

Wimmels, Saturday, 10 December 2016 12:18 (nine years ago)

the main thing i took from this thread is lex is pro-groping

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, December 9, 2016 10:05 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

?????

lex pretend, Saturday, 10 December 2016 12:23 (nine years ago)

if you're an unknown, ranking #100 on pitchfork's top 100 is orders of magnitude more valuable than ranking, say, #32

Karl Malone, Monday, 12 December 2016 06:19 (nine years ago)

because you're the first thing that people read, and in a position where people still have the attention span to read the entry instead of skimming over it

Karl Malone, Monday, 12 December 2016 06:20 (nine years ago)

just getting a lil deep about lil peep, sorry

Karl Malone, Monday, 12 December 2016 06:22 (nine years ago)

Lil Peep becoming a breakout star in 2017 would be a very interesting experience. I would bring out the popcorn for that

josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 12 December 2016 06:33 (nine years ago)

ok what is with this pandora sponsorship thing tbh

"sponsorship is evil" stuff aside.....pandora? really?

austinb, Monday, 12 December 2016 06:41 (nine years ago)

i honestly thought pitchfork and apple music were cushy so this is really weird to me, but maybe im totally off base

austinb, Monday, 12 December 2016 06:42 (nine years ago)

sweet #1 choice

flappy bird, Monday, 12 December 2016 07:40 (nine years ago)

Chance and Kanye have like ten appearances each on there

Number None, Monday, 12 December 2016 08:09 (nine years ago)

And there should've been more: Fade, Finish Line/Drown, Same Drugs, Father Stretch My Hands pt 1... great year for both of them, really

josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 12 December 2016 08:17 (nine years ago)

http://pitchfork.com/news/70394-adventure-time-islands-miniseries-announced/

so is this the first one that has nothing to do with music and doesn't even try to?

Karl Malone, Monday, 12 December 2016 22:00 (nine years ago)

Wait, what? I'm so confused. Why is there a news story about a children's TV show on there?

Position Position, Monday, 12 December 2016 22:06 (nine years ago)

hipster millennials love adventure time

j., Monday, 12 December 2016 22:09 (nine years ago)

Golden Globe nominees story was worse

flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 02:46 (nine years ago)

Pandora's about to roll out its on-demanding streaming service. First step is targeting the Whitney fans.

> ok what is with this pandora sponsorship thing tbh

Frozen CD, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 02:47 (nine years ago)

U GUYS

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 16:31 (nine years ago)

http://cdn4.pitchfork.com/news/70351/c22ba646.jpg

tfw when your site advocates for marginalized voices all year but boss asks you to play nice with the internet's biggest gathering place of unrepentant racists, creep-shot enthusiasts and kid-touchers

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:08 (nine years ago)

tfw when your site advocates for marginalized voices all year

i've said this before and i'll say it again

the more performatively woke an outlet, the more likely they are to treat (ALSO PAY) their inexperienced POC and LGBT writers badly

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:14 (nine years ago)

Wut? Surely you're not suggesting they pay POC and LGBT writers less? I know the whole enterprise is crashing downhill, but that seems highly unlikely to me.

Position Position, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:23 (nine years ago)

no, and i'm not talking about pitchfork

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:24 (nine years ago)

I'm lost now

Evan, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:29 (nine years ago)

performatively woke

stealing this phrase because it nails the dangerous tendency to treat social justice as a trend (by definition: inevitably displaced), which is why I wonder how many Bandcamp proceeds will be getting donated to progressive causes this time next year. Then again, I'm a cynic

Wimmels, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:29 (nine years ago)

"performative" as synonym for "inauthentic" really spread quickly

flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:00 (nine years ago)

it's not really a synonym imo

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:05 (nine years ago)

that didn't seem implied to me

Evan, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:07 (nine years ago)

u can be inauthentic without being performative. imo "performative" speaks more to a style of social media behavior than the actual ideas that behavior is promoting. it's the personalized version of a fluff piece PR ad from Exxon about how they care about the environment and the future.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:08 (nine years ago)

Yeah, that's what I was getting at. I guess I tend to have negative associations with the word 'performative' in this context

Wimmels, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:09 (nine years ago)


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