Pazz and Jop.

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it's a reasonable question. Glenn are you on it this goround?

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:18 (nine years ago)

wasn't last year's ballot mailing not done until December too?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:36 (nine years ago)

Yes, it's still on. I don't have anything to do with it until after voting closes, but I know ballots haven't gone out yet, so nobody has missed anything.

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:38 (nine years ago)

cool, thanks!

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:53 (nine years ago)

http://www.villagevoice.com/authors/robert-christgau-6354191

CHristgau is writing for the Voice again. I wonder if he'll be involved

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:55 (nine years ago)

thanks! (for some reason I keep thinking the initial email comes out in november)

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 22:47 (nine years ago)

Whoa! The Voice hired Xgau back?! Why wasn't this bigger news?

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 2 December 2016 01:15 (nine years ago)

Last year's ballot showed up Dec. 4, so they're not running late.

dow, Friday, 2 December 2016 02:03 (nine years ago)

I swear, every other year when I try to vote I encounter some sort of technical crap that makes it impossible, then I wind up having to re-enter everything.

Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 2 December 2016 22:21 (nine years ago)

(Sorry, that sounded bratty, given everything happening right now)

Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 2 December 2016 22:27 (nine years ago)

Ballot arrived today. I'll probably submit the same top 10 I sent The Wire.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 2 December 2016 22:55 (nine years ago)

did not expect to get a ballot from someone I know from ifmud

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Friday, 2 December 2016 23:12 (nine years ago)

"Welcome to the Village Voice's annual Music Critics Poll (formerly known as Pazz + Jop)"

RIP Pazz + Jop

geoffreyess, Saturday, 3 December 2016 02:09 (nine years ago)

Why would you fuck with the name? Especially for generic ass one?

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Saturday, 3 December 2016 20:49 (nine years ago)

"NFL Annual Championship Game Between the American and National Football Conferences"

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Saturday, 3 December 2016 20:49 (nine years ago)

Probably some unhip marketing person going "what's a Pazz"? What's a Jop?" No one knows what means.

curmudgeon, Saturday, 3 December 2016 21:17 (nine years ago)

what that means

curmudgeon, Saturday, 3 December 2016 21:18 (nine years ago)

Good for them. "Pazz and Jop" is a fucking terrible name.

Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 3 December 2016 22:58 (nine years ago)

Probably some unhip marketing person going "what's a Pazz"? What's a Jop?" No one knows what means.

― curmudgeon, Saturday, December 3, 2016 2:17 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

whereas the hip marketing person is strutting around like 'Pazz! Jop! Zappatypow! Hoobalooba! Ramalama shakkow! Zump! Haha'

sleepingbag, Saturday, 3 December 2016 23:11 (nine years ago)

i agree that pazz & jop was always an awful name

dyl, Sunday, 4 December 2016 01:25 (nine years ago)

it had a shred or two of character though

who gives a fuck about the annual Music Critics Poll

qualx, Sunday, 4 December 2016 02:53 (nine years ago)

Yeah, if anything, now it sounds LESS interesting.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 4 December 2016 02:55 (nine years ago)

anyway i have no idea how i'm still getting invited to participate, i haven't done any music writing in years and i could've sworn there was a point where they were like "please resubmit your credentials" or w/e, maybe not

qualx, Sunday, 4 December 2016 02:55 (nine years ago)

I voted for either 2 years or maybe 3 years in the mid-00s, and then one year nobody sent me a ballot and I never bothered to find out why because I'm lazy. And now it's been a really long time since I've written anything anywhere.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 4 December 2016 02:58 (nine years ago)

Is there a VV contact more responsive and/or less inundated than the generic address through which the ballots are sent? Trying to get a colleague added to the mix.

Andy K, Friday, 9 December 2016 15:03 (nine years ago)

Neil deMause, the Special features editor is listed on the email that was sent out but not his email

His about page just gives a form link to send messages to a general box I think

http://www.villagevoice.com/about/contact?to=6731940

curmudgeon, Friday, 9 December 2016 16:02 (nine years ago)

two weeks pass...

deadline in 4 hours

alpine static, Saturday, 24 December 2016 01:06 (nine years ago)

submitted an hour late because I suck, hope it's counted

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Saturday, 24 December 2016 06:23 (nine years ago)

I submitted late too. Nous verons.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 December 2016 13:30 (nine years ago)

perhaps it will be for the best if it isn't counted, I forgot to put swan song series on it

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Sunday, 25 December 2016 03:04 (nine years ago)

Heck, I forgot to *listen* to Swan Song Series. It's not every year Tanya Donelly and Kristin Hersh both release insanely long albums, and I barely got to either :(

geoffreyess, Sunday, 25 December 2016 21:01 (nine years ago)

two weeks pass...

Results tomorrow?

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 19:37 (nine years ago)

No, it'll be in the 1/25 issue this year.

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 15:01 (nine years ago)

Two more weeks, gotcha.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 16:09 (nine years ago)

So we won't be able to put P+J placings in the tracks poll images? What a disaster for tradition :(

Vote! In the 2016 EOY Poll! (seandalai), Wednesday, 11 January 2017 18:29 (nine years ago)

a liberation more like, let's excise p4k while we're at it

lex pretend, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 18:33 (nine years ago)

done.

gr8080, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 23:48 (nine years ago)

RIP, ILM

Bee OK, Saturday, 14 January 2017 06:02 (nine years ago)

Hallelujah!

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 14 January 2017 06:20 (nine years ago)

http://www.villagevoice.com/pazznjop

David Bowie- Blackstar tops the albums

and Beyoncé "Formation" tops the tracks

my comment about Tiwa Savage (featuring Dr. Sid) afropop/afrobeats track made it!

Maura, Greg Tate and SFJ have essays

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 18:13 (nine years ago)

Not Pazz & Jop 2016

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 18:14 (nine years ago)

So they didn't change the name.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 23:55 (nine years ago)

nine months pass...

I know this is even earlier, but there have been some... "developments" is exactly the opposite of the wrong word, at the Voice this year

so, uh, is this still happening

― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Wednesday, November 30, 2016 1:38 PM (eleven months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Monday, 20 November 2017 15:38 (eight years ago)

pvmic

"the fgti incident?" (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 20 November 2017 16:01 (eight years ago)

Last year's ballot showed up on Dec. 4.

dow, Monday, 20 November 2017 16:08 (eight years ago)

i am also curious (p+j)

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 20 November 2017 16:40 (eight years ago)

My sources say: Yes.

glenn mcdonald, Monday, 20 November 2017 17:05 (eight years ago)

But voting may be a lot earlier than in past years, and for scheduling reasons I may not be involved...

glenn mcdonald, Monday, 20 November 2017 21:19 (eight years ago)

why are the results for past polls impossible to find on the voice's site now?

dyl, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 23:42 (eight years ago)

when I want results I go here:
http://furia.com/pjs/ (Glenn's amazing site)

and here:
https://www.robertchristgau.com/xg/pnj/

alpine static, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 00:14 (eight years ago)


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