Louis, have u listened to low end theory yet?
― i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 24 November 2016 04:25 (seven years ago) link
Low End Theory changed my life
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 24 November 2016 13:58 (seven years ago) link
finally getting to this. i am stunned at how good this is.
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 24 November 2016 14:13 (seven years ago) link
i feel like with how fucked up 2016 has been, this new album is a perfect elixir.
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 24 November 2016 14:17 (seven years ago) link
listening to the low end theory for the first time right now
― imago, Thursday, 24 November 2016 15:03 (seven years ago) link
back in the day when I was a teenager, before i had status and before i had a pagerrrrrr
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 24 November 2016 15:05 (seven years ago) link
these are some heavy uplifting vibes
― imago, Thursday, 24 November 2016 15:06 (seven years ago) link
ah man Kendrick fits with Tribe so nicely........love his verse
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 24 November 2016 15:13 (seven years ago) link
Gonna be a good day for you louis
― i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 24 November 2016 15:16 (seven years ago) link
otm
welcome to the coolest planet in the galaxy
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 24 November 2016 18:04 (seven years ago) link
they got some basslines huh
― imago, Thursday, 24 November 2016 18:41 (seven years ago) link
I mean this in the best possible spirit but for all the wit and sass of TLET, I think I prefer the new one. Obviously I can see how towering this was in 1991 or whenever
― imago, Thursday, 24 November 2016 18:45 (seven years ago) link
That's more meant to be 'the new one is fucking incredible' than 'tlet is crap' - it's obviously great
― imago, Thursday, 24 November 2016 18:46 (seven years ago) link
^^ before you had status
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 November 2016 18:52 (seven years ago) link
this is terrific. "we the people" is a classic ATCQ track already after one listen. theres a Can sample somewhere on the album too
― Neptune Bingo (Michael B), Thursday, 24 November 2016 19:03 (seven years ago) link
he REALLY sounds like Mike Ladd to me on that verse - I even had to check it wasn't Mike.
― stevie, Friday, 25 November 2016 10:40 (seven years ago) link
Christgau:
As it was envisioned, this through-conceived meld of rhythm and voice, harmony and hook, ideas and feelings, life and death would have dawned upon us 11/9 as a collegial reminder in the spirit of its title: OK ma'am, the wolf has skulked away from the door, now let the people shape their destiny. Track one moans "The heat the heat the heat the heat" to signify climate change not law enforcement before it states its cross-racial political purposes with a forthright "It's time to go left and not right." And fundamentally, that was the idea. Of course the hour that ensues isn't uniformly ideological—this is music, their first in decades and their last ever, and music's impulses and necessities are their heart. But not their brain. With everybody home and Busta Rhymes moved into the guest room, the drama is all in reuniting seeker Q-Tip, whose long apprenticeship as a fusion musician finally yields some beats, and family man Phife Dog, who left this mortal plane in March but rhymes all the way to the final track. The album represents both their bond and the conscious black humanism they felt sure the nation was ready for: struggle yoked with work ethic, "forward movement" with "instinctual soul," "answer for cancer" with "learning is free," and damn right race-blind law enforcement. Hillary is a "woman with the wisdom who is leading the way," "The Donald"—Phife rhyming here, no later than March—all "Bloodclot you doing/Bullshit you spewing/As if the country ain't already ruined." The election didn't turn out like they figured. We know. But the music remains, urging us to love each other as much as we can as we achieve a happiness it's our duty to reaccess if we're to battle as all we can be. Its statement of principle didn't get the victory it foresaw. But it remains a triumph. A PLUS
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 November 2016 16:18 (seven years ago) link
For real
― Adam J Duncan, Friday, 25 November 2016 16:30 (seven years ago) link
this is a 10/10 record, easily
― imago, Sunday, 27 November 2016 14:36 (seven years ago) link
is the vinyl going to be widely available or only thru the okayplayer site?
― stevie, Sunday, 27 November 2016 19:19 (seven years ago) link
still playing this daily and being slayed by it daily
― stevie, Sunday, 27 November 2016 19:20 (seven years ago) link
that's a really good xgau piece
― ogmor, Sunday, 27 November 2016 22:05 (seven years ago) link
turns out Midnight Marauders is more to my taste than TLET
― imago, Monday, 28 November 2016 17:21 (seven years ago) link
That's a pretty standard opinion. Lots of fans cite Midnight Marauders as their favorite. (It's partially a generational thing; younger listeners seem to prefer MM)
― Evan R, Monday, 28 November 2016 18:36 (seven years ago) link
Normally I'd say that two years isn't enough time to mark a generational divide, but there was a lot of movement in hip hop during those two years. Still, MM isn't The Chronic or Bacdafucup, and not a huge departure from the ATCQ albums before it, so hmm.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 28 November 2016 20:07 (seven years ago) link
TLET/MM is basically The Godfather/The Godfather II
― ¶ (DJP), Monday, 28 November 2016 20:31 (seven years ago) link
younger listeners like the computer voice on MM it makes them think of future
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Monday, 28 November 2016 20:42 (seven years ago) link
both are great
― the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Monday, 28 November 2016 20:53 (seven years ago) link
true sort of xp
― Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Monday, 28 November 2016 20:54 (seven years ago) link
and yeah, amazing discovery ty ilx
― ¶ (DJP), Monday, November 28, 2016 3:31 PM (twenty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ya they are both great and arguments for either one are fun to engage in even if it doesn't matter which one is better
still haven't heard the new one. i should listen, even if im always skeptical about reunion albums
― I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Monday, 28 November 2016 20:57 (seven years ago) link
Low End Theory and MM came out practically back to back but Midnight Marauders feels like a much more social album imo; it's livelier and more extroverted than Low End Theory, which has kind of a reclusive quality to it. I prefer Low End Theory, but MM feels more like a party than a spoken word session, so it makes sense people gravitate toward it.
Genuinely jealous you get to dive into these albums for the first time imago.
― Evan R, Monday, 28 November 2016 21:06 (seven years ago) link
marcos you will like this record
― Οὖτις, Monday, 28 November 2016 21:10 (seven years ago) link
TLET was such an eye-opening record for me at just the right time that I will always rank it highest. MM was like a victory lap.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 28 November 2016 21:14 (seven years ago) link
^^^
My relationship to ATCQ across the first three albums was "This is great, I should pay attention to these guys" -> "HOLY SHIT THIS IS THE GREATEST ALBUM I HAVE EVER HEARD" -> "HOLY SHIT THEY DIDN'T HAVE A LETDOWN AFTER RELEASING THE GREATEST ALBUM I'VE EVER HEARD"
― ¶ (DJP), Monday, 28 November 2016 21:17 (seven years ago) link
(then it was "This is good but not on the same level as the first three" -> "I only can remember 2 songs on this but those two songs are fire" -> "HOLY SHIT HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT DECADES LATER THEY CAN BE THIS GOOD? RIP Pfife")
― ¶ (DJP), Monday, 28 November 2016 21:19 (seven years ago) link
haha yes
― Οὖτις, Monday, 28 November 2016 21:20 (seven years ago) link
Yep.
Which two songs on TLM? "Find a Way" is one of their greatest creations imo
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 November 2016 21:24 (seven years ago) link
That and "Start It Up"
― ¶ (DJP), Monday, 28 November 2016 21:25 (seven years ago) link
it's really depressing to look at the list of albums released in september 1991 and realize which ones the 16 yr old me bought at the time instead of 'the low end theory'.
Psychotic Supper - Tesla No More Tears - Ozzy Osbourne Use Your Illusion I - Guns N' Roses Use Your Illusion II - Guns N' Roses Blood Sugar Sex Magik - Red Hot Chili Peppers
― nomar, Monday, 28 November 2016 21:31 (seven years ago) link
The bass on "Find a Way" is so massive. Such great Dilla beats all over that album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Us-4dzcY9A
― Evan R, Monday, 28 November 2016 21:37 (seven years ago) link
crushing hard on this album rn tbrr
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 28 November 2016 22:24 (seven years ago) link
Didn't TLOT and Nevermind come out the same day? I remember buying both because I couldn't choose.
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 03:25 (seven years ago) link
Also that day was Blood Sugar Sex Magick
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 03:55 (seven years ago) link
Midnight Marauders and Enter The Wu-Tang came out on the same day in '93, which is crazy
― I know hoes that know Ali Farka Toure (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 04:32 (seven years ago) link
CD arrived today after four days of download. This is magnificent. And making me want to go back and re-evaluate Kamaal The Abstract, which I never quite understood the bile towards, but also never quite got.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 13:33 (seven years ago) link
Is this CD's sound significantly better---?
― dow, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 13:41 (seven years ago) link
lol I started trying to list my favourites on each album and ended up just listing basically everything smh
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 13:42 (seven years ago) link
― Οὖτις, Monday, November 28, 2016 4:10 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
haha yea this is a great record
― I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 16:36 (seven years ago) link
Off one listen to the cd, vs about 4 to the download, I reckon it's a bit different.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 22:07 (seven years ago) link