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search "outlaw" here, anthony - there's a lot there, i think:

No Depression Top 40 of 2005

xhuxk, Monday, 27 February 2006 15:47 (twenty years ago)

i think its a lot more obvious to folks yr age, then folks my age chuck. im a good 20 years younger then you.

anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 27 February 2006 16:03 (twenty years ago)

ever been to a show where people yelled for "free bird"? (just asking.) (though i guess it's possible skynyrd don't count as hippie rednecks. i'm still not sure what the definition is supposed to be.)

xhuxk, Monday, 27 February 2006 16:29 (twenty years ago)

Apropos of nothing, really: at the Klezmatics show last week someone yelled for "Smoke on the Water" and Frank London said "We're more of an 'In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida' sort of band," but then they didn't play either one, dammit.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 27 February 2006 16:54 (twenty years ago)

If they were Brave Combo (who I've never really liked much as much as I wish I did) they *would* have done "Inna-Gadda-Da-Vida." As a polka!

xhuxk, Monday, 27 February 2006 16:57 (twenty years ago)

Fuck but I haven't had any time to keep up with this great thread. I don't know how you all do it. Maybe I'll have time to post after I finish a few projects this week.

Dunno if it's on the racks yet, but the new No Depression features Edd's fine speculative essay on pop and country, so don't miss it. (The title, which I assume wasn't the author's idea, is kinda huh?) Also David Cantwell on a bunch of Haggard two-fers. However, Don McLeese, who I like and respect, is just wrong about the new Van Morrison.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Monday, 27 February 2006 17:46 (twenty years ago)

Been listening more to Lee Roy Parnell's *Back to the Well,* which I mentioned earlier (maybe toward the end of the '05 thread) in passing, but which finally comes out, I believe, today. So maybe now other people can help me with it. For one thing, I have no memory of Lee Roy's earlier stuff -- I gather he apparently had some actual country hits in the early '90s (unless I misheard somebody), which enables me to listen to this new album as a T. Graham Brown album more than a John Hiatt album, which helps. (Why am I always giving John Hiatt shit? Why is he always my poster boy for "boring old white guys trying to be soulful and coming out sounding really oily?" I honestly don't hate him! Or at least I didn't hate his new wave era stuff, up to 1983 or so. So it is unfair, but he just the best example I can think of.) Anyway, the soul-country stuff (ie Something Out of Nothing, Breaking the Chain, Just Lucky That Way) on the Parnell album is good, but the Van Morrison (usually circa 1978/79 Wavelength/Into the Music I guess -- which is to say: catchy!) sounding stuff (Old Soul -- see also Lil Wayne!, Daddies and Daughters which has very Catholic lyrics mentioning Mary Full of Grace
but like all daddies and daughters songs is pretty mushy anyway, That's All There Is with guitar I can't decide whether it's slide or slack key, Saving Grace) is even better, not to mention better than Van's own boring new "country" album. (If and when Parnell had country hits, has he always done Van-ish type stuff? Or soul stuff in general? What did his hits sound like? Because NOTHING on this record is MORE country than soul or blues, that's clear to me. Did he change? Either way, how come nobody talks about him?) Best of all are maybe the two tracks that verge toward jazz fusion -- the gambler's funk anthem You Can't Lose Them All, hooked on a really cool chord change, and maybe (or maybe not...okay, probably not one of the best tracks but I still really like it) the instrumental closer Cool Breeze. And really the whole album is sort of a cool breeze--no, more like a WARM breeze, but with some quiet storm in it the soul-country cuts, especially Something Out of Nothing. Only track, oddly enough, that sounds really heavy handed and STODGY in the pool-hall/beer-commercial (damn I always overuse THOSE metaphors, too; they're even tireder than using John Hiatt!) sense, is the opening and title track Back to the Well, which gets kinda minstrely in both its blues vocal affectations and its gospel backup, though the boogieing rhythm section does hold its own in it, I admit. As it also does elsewhere. Oddly, though, as much as I like the SOUND of this record, outside of You Can't Lose 'Em All, hardly any of it is hitting me as songs. I like the sound and feel of Lee Roy's voice a LOT, yet I'm not sure he's putting the songs over. Maybe 'cause the words are so pat and boilerplate and heard-it-before? Maybe. Though they don't bug me, all the same. Anyway, that's what I'm thinking. What about everybody else?

xhuxk, Tuesday, 28 February 2006 15:39 (twenty years ago)

Oops, I think the release date is actually TOMORROW, March 1. (I switched over my wall calendar already; I guess that's what confused me.) And I left out "Don't Water It Down," which actually funks and rolls and boogies better than the opening track, sounds like to me.

Roy: So did McLeese like the Van Morrison album? Do you? And if so, why? Struck me as a pointless snoozefest; did I miss something?

xhuxk, Tuesday, 28 February 2006 15:57 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, Don loves the new Van--pretty much everything about it. I don't. The arrangements feel pro forma and Van both over and under sings badly. There's also very little country soul on the record, which may be the point, since he's already proven a master of that. But whatever the point was, beyond some dumb Van-celebrates-country-music-history, I don't feel it.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 16:43 (twenty years ago)

I've got pretty mixed feelings about the new Jessi Colter album, I've decided. It cooks for the first few tracks, through track four maybe (the climax of track #3 "Starman" rocks the most I think; "You Can Pick 'Em" and "The Phoenix Rises" are also good, though I'm not buying the Stones theory Matt posited above anymore, I don't think -- Sheryl Crow has done way more Stonesy stuff). But then, starting with the boring Waylon/Tony Joe White track, it gets pretty staid and a little stilted and very loungey and adult-contemporary, like Don Was wanted her to do something along the lines of Jack White's Loretta Lynn record, but without Jack's songs. I guess some of the swirling piano atmosphere is supposed to have some windmills of the *Dusty in Memphis* mind in it maybe? I dunno. Shooter should've helped her out on a a rocker not a ballad, though their track picks up OK musically when they both stop singing. Her voice is okay throughout, I suppose; no complaints. But I can't say it's especially grabbing me, either.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 28 February 2006 18:34 (twenty years ago)

suggest for me some Gene Watson. Old Gene Watson, I've heard his latest one

I haven't heard the old Gene Watson, but I think Gene Watson ...Sings, the album that came out a couple years ago, is far superior to the latest one: stronger songs, stronger lyrics that go from hilarious to heart-wrenching. His steady big-but-casual voice keeps everything on an even keel; much beauty in the singing, but not in a way that shouts "BEAUTY" at you. If his back catalog has enough good material, this guy may be a major artist who's been generally overlooked - possibly because his style isn't the type that's thought of as "major."

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 20:37 (twenty years ago)

This week's issue of Billboard says there's a collaboration album between a couple surviving Pantera guys (including Dimebag Darrell's drummer brother Big Vin) and David Allen Coe coming out in May. Given that Coe's collaborations with Kid Rock a couple years ago (I still have a demo EP of tracks around here somewhere) weren't that great, plus the fact that Pantera kinda sucked, I wouldn't expect that much out of it. Still, intriguing news.

Also, Chris Cagle's new single which just hit the country chart at #56 is "Walmart Parking Lot," which I remember liking on his album, so maybe I should pull his album back out.

My favorite album in the world this week is Bruce Springsteen & the E Street Band's *Hammersmith Odeon, London '75.* No kidding. I forgot how much he used to love Mitch Ryder! And about time somebody acknowledged "Come A Little Bit Closer" by Jay and the Americans (missing link between "El Paso" and "Gimme Three Steps," as everyone knows.)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 1 March 2006 00:28 (twenty years ago)

Quick thoughts about Sara Evans and Brad Paisley, whose 2005 albums were due at the library before I could listen a second time (and I only really gave them background attention): Sara Evans seems kind of NPR, maybe not NPR country in the way we've been using it on this thread, but still somehow... I don't know, post-Emmy Lou supper club, even though her styles are basically mainstream. And nothing on this one hit my like "Suds in the Bucket," but this all might be owing to my inattention.

Paisley: the music is pleasant enough, with a nice little stroll to it, but it's the lyrics that make him interesting (to the extent he is interesting). The ones that popped into my head were the dead flowers one. Marry me or I will kill this flower!

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 00:40 (twenty years ago)

Also surprising about that live Springsteen album: How prog rock it is! (In a good way!)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 1 March 2006 00:55 (twenty years ago)

So I pulled out the Cagle and Dierks Bentley albums because I wanted to hear "Wal-mart Parking Lot" (which contains some good high school social geography i.e. names of cliques stuff by the way) and Dierks's "Settle for a Slowdown" and "Come a Little Closer" separately as singles rather than album tracks (which I never have, since I never hear country radio or see CMT anymore these days), and that's the order in which I liked them. All three are pretty good, though I'm kind of confused about why, after "Lot of Leavin Left to Do" was so big, Capitol went for slower songs for the ladies (okay, duh, I'm not confused, I'm not that dumb) for Dierks singles rather than, say, "Cab of My Truck" or whatever. Guess they wanna play down his ramblin man aspects and play up his lothario aspects? "Down on Easy Street" and "Modern Day Drifter" totally kick those second and third singles' butts, too -- I totally object to the marketing plan!

(And speaking of marketing plans, nobody ever answered my Sugarland conspiracy theory up above. Does that mean everybody thinks I'm nuts?)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 1 March 2006 14:32 (twenty years ago)

That would be a shame if the overweight Sugarlander was forced out - I mean, it's not like country fans can't accept a bigger lady, just look at Wynonna.

Josh Love (screamapillar), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 15:42 (twenty years ago)

its not that shes bigger, its that shes butch.

heard a song called a six pack from perfect on the radio today, i made a joke about country being the soundtrack to functional alocholism(sp)but the song was great--does anyone know who did it.

anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 16:18 (twenty years ago)

>its not that shes bigger, its that shes butch>

Might be both, actually. But yeah, butch is what I had in mind.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 1 March 2006 16:42 (twenty years ago)

How many women singers over forty in country music have major label contracts? (I suspect that her age was one factor in Arista's decision to give Deana the boot.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 17:10 (twenty years ago)

Speaking of outlaw nostalgia, "Willie" is now the name of a radio format, which I presume he's getting paid to endorse, since his picture's on the billboard. It also shows a young regular-sized (not model-thin, that is) brunette in regular clothing (neither trashy nor business) dancing with arms above her head. The text says, "release your inner redneck."

Willie 92.5. Wide Open Country

So, a friend of mine is driving me home, and she puts on Willie and the first song we hear is "Kerosene." Then some sentimental slow songs I don't recognize.

The playlist seems to be modern country and old tracks in a mix, perhaps leaning towards the rock end of each, maybe keeping an ear to what the satellite stations are doing. According to their Website (they stream their signal, if you're interested), these are the last five tracks they played:

DESPERADO
Clint Black

THE LUCKY ONE
Faith Hill

A THOUSAND MILES FROM NOWHERE
Dwight Yoakam

MY BABY LOVES ME
McBride, Martina

THAT AIN'T MY TRUCK
Rhet Akins

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 17:30 (twenty years ago)

(Didn't mean to imply that anyone in Sugarland was over forty, just that in general the country mainstream has trouble with women who are not in their heterosexual prime.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 17:48 (twenty years ago)

I go away for a few days--a zillion posts...

xp, chuck, my ramblin' above about "deforming aspects of Nashville biz." well, it seems to me that since N-ville is all about song publishing--that's the engine that drives it--that right there is a "deforming aspect" of the biz. the constant need to feed singers with songs that might or might not fit their persona? and I think that the other big thing is the notorious practice here of using those studio musicians, which I am not saying is by definition a bad thing, since they're the best in the world.

the other big thing is the *oppositional* quality that arises here, with anyone who doesn't fit into the machine, as they say...which seems to me *needlessly* oppositional. I can't tell you how many times I've been embroiled in some ridiculous conversation about how some big country act of another spells the end of musical civilization...plus, any *rock* or, name yr. genre that ain't country, act that tries to make it in Nashville has a hard time, because of that machinery, and because they define themselves in *opposition* to it instead of going with it, or ignoring it , or whatever.

but that's changing a little bit, seems to me.

and too, I wrote that in response to the book I was reading, the "Rednecks &" book, which is good, but which is also a bit dizzying--you come away even more unsure of all the political-social relationships here. I suppose all music-biz encourgages cynicism in those who are part of it, but I would say that there's a kind of *genteel cynicism* in Nashville that's unique, and maybe that's all I was trying to express. Because I never want to be one of those people who rails against the "music biz" and all that. and I think you're right Chuck--Nashville does leave good music "intact." I think it's the "gestalt" if you will, the *attitude* the town has toward itself, the world, and so forth, that is "uniquely deforming," you get the sense that they oughta concentrate more on music and less on mythologizing itself, but then where would the fun lie in that? and which ties into Garth Brooks. and I know that for a large part of the musical community here, country music is something they wish would go away.

this is what happens when I read books...

so has anybody heard the Tres Chicas record that ND writes about? any comments about the Kristofferson piece by Friskics-Warren in the current issue? I talked to Bill at length about this record, and don't agree with him at all--but think it's a fine piece/defense of a record I find just *not there*. as for that title for the ND essay, Roy--yeah, that was Mr. Alden. nice photo of Sara Evans, though, that photogenic little thang...

multiple xps---back to this Shawn Camp record....

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 17:51 (twenty years ago)

re: Frank on country's aversion to over-40 females:

Well, country doesn't look so bad in that area when compared to hip-hop, or mainstream rock, or metal, or indie (see: asinine reactions to Liz Phair still having a sex drive), or teenpop, or certain other genres to be named later. (Though basically, I still agree with you.)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 1 March 2006 17:52 (twenty years ago)

I mean, how many major label r&b or rock women are over 40 these days? My guess is that country would have at least as many, though many I'm wrong. (Where over 40s *are* respected, I guess, is in the adult alternative realm. Which I have little respect for. Go figure.)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 1 March 2006 17:56 (twenty years ago)

so has anybody heard the Tres Chicas record that ND writes about?

I excoriated it above. I over-stated the case, I think, but I was right about ND going for it. Musically it's got more texture than I allowed, but no heft. And the original songs are mostly pretty bad, even if you have more tolerance for mixed metaphors than I do.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 20:26 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I complained in my Deana Carter piece about the dearth of over-40 females in teenpop.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 2 March 2006 06:38 (twenty years ago)

When I posted above about Sheryl Crow I hadn't heard she'd just undergone surgery for breast cancer (she's told the press that she expects to recover fine). Not that the cancer has anything to do with the thin sound of the album, but I'll feel vaguely guilty in the future whenever I describe her new sound as "anemic." But it is. Listening again to the album, I think the thin-blood is great for "Chances Are" and "Wildflower," which speak with a quiet insistence and are worth a special effort to hear. The rest is OK and you shouldn't make a special effort to avoid it, except I feel that even when I'm listening attentively, it's making an effort to avoid me, the sound so deliberately anorexic as to almost vanish. Some aesthetic choices I just don't understand.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 3 March 2006 06:45 (twenty years ago)

so...did anybody notice that shawn camp gets primary writing credit on four of the first five songs on josh turner's album, including "no rush" (the album's best song), "your man" (the title track and i think the single, right?), and "loretta lynn's cadillac" (which i like better as a title than an actual song). well, he does. but shawn camp's album is still about twenty times as entertaining as josh's.

the first song, "too good to be true", on alecia nugent's new rounder album *a little girl...a big four line* is super catchy and energetic pop bluegrass in the tradition of, say, ricky skaggs's "highway 40 blues," but i don't hear anything else on the rest of her album that compares. a few tracks seem possibly okay, though. i need to listen more. as far as i know, she is unrelated to ted, but maybe i'm wrong.

got a new album in the mail by a new black woman country singer named rhonda towns, and it *didn't* come via cdbaby channels. the press packet says "she entered and won Alpha Phi Alpha fraternity's Miss Black Culture Pageant" and "she enjoyed the honor to perform at the First Annual Black Country Music Show in Atlanta, Georgia" (which I never heard of, and which I'd like to learn more about) and she has appeared on BET, "providing some audience members with their first real exposure to country music." interesting. except so far, the album is boring me -- very adult-contemporary reba mcentire style. but that's what i initially thought about miko marks up above, too, and i turned out to be wrong. so i'll keep listening. i just noticed she covers "slow rain" by dobie gray (who made has made good country albums himself), not to mention a version of "the lord's prayer."

xhuxk, Friday, 3 March 2006 15:06 (twenty years ago)

*a little girl...a big four LANE*

xhuxk, Friday, 3 March 2006 15:23 (twenty years ago)

FYI: new ND has a feature on Nugent by Jon Weisberger.

Soon I'll have more to contribute than silly ND alerts.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 3 March 2006 15:31 (twenty years ago)

From METRO ATLANTA COUNTRY MUSIC CLUB MONTHLY UPDATE
Don Adkisson, President
MARCH 2003

"The third annual Black Country Music Special took place at the Aaron
Davis Hall Theatre in New York City Feb. 14. The event, which
coincides with Black History Month, featured artists such as Big Al
Downing, Will Glover, Vicki Vann and K.C. Williams"

xhuxk, Friday, 3 March 2006 15:37 (twenty years ago)

gosh, I didn't know Big Al Downing was alive! like his stuff on those Silver Fox/SSS comps.

it seems all I've done over the last few days is listen to the Kinks and Ray Davies, for something I'm cooking up here. but I have lent an ear to some of Radney Foster's new one "This World We Live In." and I'll say that the first track, "Drunk on Love," is actually funky and rips off Sheryl Crow and Nilsson's "Coconut," and he talks his way thru some of it, has a nice unpretentious voice...altho he does say "bidness" and I'm not sure about that. anyway, what he seems to be going for is pub-rock or the Fab Thunderbirds with Nick Lowe kinda-thing as on "Big Love." it seems to thin out pretty quickly, and I'm not sure that his voice, unpretentious as it is, can really sustain.

thx for the take on Tres, Roy, I must've missed your comments upthread. I don't think the songs are any good, nice "textures."

and I like Daniell Howle's "Thank You Mark." nicely jazzy. which come to think of it might mean not much, but it's pleasant. it's in the stack along with Jessi's record, Shawn Camp, etc.

and I really have grown attached to Jamey Johnson's record. in fact got myself a jones for it for a while. and ended up liking Scott Miller's "Citation" quite a lot, which suprised me. Dickinson's production really helps, of course, but I think his songs are good, especially the one about Sam Houston and the I'm-in-Iraq-but-Jody's-fucking-my-girlfriend song (and Scott'll get her back, Jody, so enjoy it while you can).

finally, I recommend the new Numero female-obscuro-folkie comp "Ladies from the Canyon." the repros of the album covers, and the liners, are worth the price, but shit, some of the music ain't any worse than the folkie stuff that made it out into the world. some better. and Ellen Warshaw, who was the only one to make it to a halfway big label (Vanguard) landed here in Nashville, where she runs a B&B, works as a massage therapist, and still writes songs. her version of "Sister Morphine" isn't really worse than Faithfull's...

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 3 March 2006 15:57 (twenty years ago)

Do you folks know of any forums that mainly discuss the type of music ND covers?

cracktivity1 (cracktivity1), Friday, 3 March 2006 16:10 (twenty years ago)

>gosh, I didn't know Big Al Downing was alive! <

Well, he's not, not anymore. He was in 2003, though.

Here's what I wrote about his last album:

http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0337,eddy,46856,22.html

xhuxk, Friday, 3 March 2006 16:15 (twenty years ago)

Edd, could you tell me a bit more about the SSS / Silver Fox stuff? Mostly I know those labels for their soul output, though I have an old UK-released SSS vinyl comp called "Country Gold", which is an entertaining mixture of decent country-pop, light-ish honky tonk and ludicrous novelty records (eg a "Big John" take off called "Big Fanny" which is hilarious to us Brits, as you can probably imagine) plus some rubbish. I'd like to hear more.

Tim (Tim), Friday, 3 March 2006 17:11 (twenty years ago)

Rhoda Towns album is sounding better, especially "Somethin' Better" (which mentions Scooby Doo) and "Those Were the Nights" and "Storm Before the Calm." Doesn't sound like Reba; not sure who it *does* sound like. My new traditionalist countrypolitan-woman comparison chops ain't shit. But the album's slickness has energy and hooks and soul. Only real sore spot for me so far is that she puts her American Idolized "The Lord's Prayer" at #4 when she should have closed the album with it. It lasts less than two minutes, but feels like an eternity. Though apparently she's the daughter of a preacher man, so maybe she had no choice. Thing is, I grew up Catholic not Protestant, so I'm used to forgiving us our tresspassers, not our debtors. Eek.

xhuxk, Friday, 3 March 2006 17:34 (twenty years ago)

RHONDA Towns. Not Rhoda. (Because then she'd be Jewish, and Mary Tyler Moore's friend.)

xhuxk, Friday, 3 March 2006 17:37 (twenty years ago)

duh. 2003 is when that was. that's good on Big Al, Chuck.

*Edd, could you tell me a bit more about the SSS / Silver Fox stuff? Mostly I know those labels for their soul output*

well, that's pretty much what I know, Tim. Sundazed put out two comps last year of SSS/Silver Fox stuff. "My Goodnes, Yes!" is the better of the two, by far, concentrating on Silver Fox material. the big name is Bettye LaVette, who did all her Silver Fox recording with the Dixie Flyers in Memphis. and as far as I'm concerned (having just gotten 3 discs, put together by LaVette's manager/husband, of the bulk of her work from the early '60s thru about '82, with some very nice stuff done on an Atlantic session unreleased in the USA but somehow or another avaiable in Europe) that's her best period. anyway, the other Sundazed comp, "Shake What You Brought," is far less compelling, lots of lame retreads of the fashionable sounds of the era. there's also a Kent 20-cut comp called "Cryin' in the Streets" that contains many songs not on the Sundazed, including Calvin Leavy's "Cummins Prison Farm" which is a great companion piece to Bobby Womack's 1970 "Arkansas State Prison." Shelby Singleton just grabbed up anything he could find, so it's really inconsistent, but "My Goodness" has a couple of really nice Robert Parker Allen Toussaint songs on it.

and George did good on that Hank III record in the Voice. Hank Jr. wouldn't have done it that way.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 3 March 2006 18:18 (twenty years ago)

Thanks Edd, I know the Silver Fox Lavette stuff (back when she was plain ol' Betty!) and the Atlantic CD which (yes) came out in France a few years back, having been legendary lost tapes forever. She did a few good bits & bobs for Epic, I think, and then made an LP for Motown which I've heard good things about but never actually heard.

I'll have a glance at the Sundazed CDs, but I want to know more about the country stuff these people recorded.

What I know about this country soul stuff comes from the sleeve notes of Charly reissues from the 80s, and from Barney Hoskyns's book "Say It One Time For The Brokenhearted: The Country Side of Southern Soul" which isn't faultless but is very useful.

Tim (Tim), Friday, 3 March 2006 18:24 (twenty years ago)

I just bought tickets to see Lee Ann Womack in NYC, and George Jones in Lancaster, PA (both in June). I suppose I'd better book a flight. Holidays! Hooray!

Tim (Tim), Friday, 3 March 2006 18:26 (twenty years ago)

>Do you folks know of any forums that mainly discuss the type of music ND covers? <

Heh heh, hate to do this again, but:

No Depression Top 40 of 2005

xhuxk, Friday, 3 March 2006 18:27 (twenty years ago)

yeah, I don't know anything about the Silver Fox country stuff, Tim. I know there are plenty of country-soul comps out there, but I haven't got any of them, if they contain SSS/Fox material, or if they concentrate on people like Tex and Womack. I think the original David Allen Coe "Penitentiary Blues" came out on SSS in the late '70s. I need to talk to Mike Grey at the Country Music Hall of Fame, he'll know all about it, I reckon.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 3 March 2006 19:14 (twenty years ago)

alecia nugent CD is coffee-house tedium after that first track (which by the way is yet more proof of my "i like every song containing the word 'ponchatrain'" rule.) (second best song is probably "where his wheels left the road," about a drunk driving crash.) people who like alison krauss more than i do will be less bored by the CD than i am.

xhuxk, Friday, 3 March 2006 19:24 (twenty years ago)

right off the bat the new B-Star EP *what we do* is a GIGANTIC improvement over the one from a couple years i mention above from when they were called battelstar and sounded like cake or whoever. to wit (1) first song "bootleg dreams" immediately might be one of my favorite 2006 singles (first tracks of EPs always count as singles); they've clearly been listening to big and rich (the first alt-country band to audibly do so?) and apparently hired their own cowboy troy (except, judging from the photo on the back of the EP, he's much SHORTER). this song is funkier than i would have guessed they were capable of; it rocks. and though the anti religious right stuff and pro union stuff (i ASSUME pro-union; gotta re-listen to that line actually) is fine the funniest part is when they say they're gonna rock down to Atlantic Avenue (since they're from Brooklyn, see); (2) "To Far Gone," girl-sung alt-country that namedropd george jones, otis redding, and nina simone; big deal who doesn't, but i like the hawaiian gutiar break; (3) "yellowbelly," another hick-hop rap, stiff turntables and rapping but funky swamp guitars and fiddles (rhyhmes with "paradiddles"), reminds me of rehab's *southern discomfort* (see link below)**, or maybe a country version of hip hop hoodios, but i end up liking it, anyway they're clearly vying here for a b&r opening spot, good for them, talking about how they're not some cliched hee haw hootenany sassafrass, but damn their DJ has a corny assed scratching technique; (4) "holla atcha," starts out like a '70s funk band, then the rapper comes in; groove gets very country-disco--cool, second best song so far after the opener; rapper shouts out to marvin gaye then he tells the girl he's singing to all the stuff he's gonna do for her tonight, and you hear the alt-country gal a little in the background and eventually there's some picking that pops like say what hot buttered popcorn okay maybe not THAT funky but i still highly approve; (5) slowed down to a whiskeyfied dance drag, "ain't had a job in over a year" -- okay, this reminds me a LOT of A-3 (see: where I talked about battlestar america up above), but this time they're pulling it off, and the guy who's singing makes this sound sweeter and more moving than the girl who sang track two, though her feathery little voice still sounds okay in the background and eventually she gets a little less feathery and sleepy-eyed at which point she improves, and then they stretch it out with fiddles; (6) hambone/thigh-slapping/spoon-playing beats mixed into scratching that sounds better now, sorta like young mc's "bust a move" in fact (or maybe that's the drums), then singing in rhythm from both the guy and gal ("i can't spring for drinks at these new york bars, i don't have fun there anyway...got my furniture off the street...i can't go out like i used to, my apartment ain't got no heat," so she's gonna visit him all the time, yeah this sounds like boho brooklyn in '06 to me.)

** - http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0148,couch,30258,22.html

xhuxk, Friday, 3 March 2006 22:32 (twenty years ago)

oops, track 5 is called "recession"; track 6 is "someone like me."

xhuxk, Friday, 3 March 2006 22:39 (twenty years ago)

> they're gonna rock down to Atlantic Avenue <

A la Eddy Grant, if that wasn't already obvious.

Turns out the Cowboy Troy soundalike rapper, Dolio the Sleuth, IS also their turntablist, and he's probably not as inept at the latter as I suggest above; his scratching sounds less clumsy on subsequent listens. Six other people (all lighter skinned than Dolio) in the band. Singers are Rench (male) and Veronica Dougherty (female). Bass player is named "gAOl."

xhuxk, Saturday, 4 March 2006 18:10 (twenty years ago)

I just returned Carrie to the library (from where I'm posting now); only gave her a couple of spins but I think she's got something, even if the something hasn't evolved into a personality and even though Dann Huff productions like this do tend towards the ho-hum. Best track is the one where she takes her key and cuts a big gouge in the cheaters car; he may cheat on the next one but won't cheat on her again. The singing on that one is basically blues, even if the song isn't (it probably is, actually, even though it's not twelve bar I-IV-I-V-IV-I). Listened to five tracks on the Jessi Colter and liked her voice but thought the material tended towards the standard for blues-based country (whereas Carrie's had more bite, even if her voice isn't as interesting as Jessi's).

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 4 March 2006 20:10 (twenty years ago)

I posted this on the teenpop thread (Chuck wrote about the Hazzard compilation last year; obv. I like the Jessica track a couple scadzillion times more than he does):

OK, today's booty from the library consists of Lizzie McGuire, DVD, episodes 12 through 22; Talk to Her, a film by Pedro Almodóvar; The Dukes of Hazzard (CD not DVD); Buddy Jewell Times Like These. I suspect that the Jewell and the Almodóvar won't qualify as teenpop, though I haven't listened or watched yet, and you never know. I'll report back on Lizzie McGuire (so far Hilary Duff is a complete cipher to me, even though I love "Come Clean" and "Fly"). Which leaves The Dukes of Hazzard, which I've had on continuous play all afternoon and is chock full of greatness, including as its leadoff (speaking of booty) a very strange and spooky version of "These Boots Are Made for Walkin'" by Jessica Simpson. What it is (speaking of the conversation between black and white that Simon Reynolds doesn't think exists right now) is a Jam & Lewis dance track, almost all of it treble percussion and handclap, Jessica making her voice uncharacteristically thin, sketching in the melody, with banjo and harmonica occasionally inserted, a bit of guitar from Willie Nelson, almost no bottom. And it leads into maybe the most searing Allman Brothers song ever, "One Way Out," and for the rest of the album (with the exception of a negligible Willie cut at the end) you've got blistering '70s Southern rock by the likes of Skynyrd and Hatchett and Vaughan and Daniels (speaking of black-white conversations from the past), and blistering recent faux Southern rock by the Blueskins and the Blues Explosion that matches the Allmans song in quality and actually outdoes the Skynyrd, Hatchett, Vaughn, Daniels stuff. And - speaking of bubblegum as Southern rock or vice versa (producers Kasenetz & Katz, the fellows who'd brought us "Yummy Yummy Yummy" and "Chewy Chewy" and "1, 2, 3 Red Light") - there's Ram Jam's "Black Betty," which is 120 years of American stomp condensed into three minutes. The Blueskins and Blues Explosion tracks totally floor me. The only thing I know about the Blueskins is they're Yorkshire Brits on the same label as the Arctic Monkeys. Their song - "Change My Mind - starts with an acoustic slide, but in its heart it's scrappy slimy vinyl-pants L.A. sleaze metal (which was the teenpop of the late '80s). The Blues Explosion's "Burn It Off" reminds me of the Johnny Thunders Heartbreakers, a great Stonesy groove but with a girl-groupish call-and-response type poppiness. I don't know if Jon Spencer quite has the voice for what he's trying to do, but Thunders didn't either, yet it worked often enough and so does this. I've got one Blues Explosion album that I played a couple of times and set aside for its being too distant and mannered, but maybe I need to go back and rethink it. I'd liked Spencer's sense of humor back in Pussy Galore.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 5 March 2006 04:04 (twenty years ago)

what i wrote last year, for whatever it's worth (and for whatever it's worth, as I recall, Thunders at least used to *try* to sing. Though maybe I should go back and listen to that Spencer cut regardless. The guy's refusal to write actual songs has always annoyed me):

>the *dukes of hazzard* soundtrack is an excellent if somewhat obvious collection of redneck rock of many stripes, though even i can't stand jessica's breathy "boots" remake. only recent country artist on it is montgomery gentry, whose "hillbilly shoes" is better than i'd remembered. but there's also allmans, skynyrd, molly hatchet, james gang, stevie ray vaughn, cdb ("south's gonna do it again" always amazes me by how JAZZY it is -- it basically turns into glen miller in the middle!), and the completely insane looong version of ram jam' s "black betty", which my otherwise now wu tang obsessed kid sherman made me play six times in the rentacar this weekend (he'd never heard it before. he hated molly hatchet's singer, though, and whenever montgomery gentry came on he said "is this big & rich"?) also a dirty southern culture on the skids party number that blowfly or hasil adkins would appreciate, a typically worthless piece of blackface bullshit by jon spencer, and a rocking cowpunk tune by the blueskins, who i never heard of before. anybody know who they are?
(i do think "boots" by jessica is "interesting", i guess. kelefah wrote a pretty smart review of it in the times friday; it's quite the montage, with that reggae dancehall beat and all. but i could give a fuck for most reggae dancehall beats, you know? and britney did the same montage better in her 'i got that {boom boom}' ying yang and banjo collab last year. and i wish jessica sang instead of getting hushy {just like i wish the ying yangs weren't getting hushy so much lately}; she has a reasonably tolerable singing voice {not as cool as her sister's, but what the heck}; why not use it? plus ram jam's extended 'black betty' has a WAY better and more surprising hoedown in the middle, believe you me; whoever i decided to include it on this album is probably a genius.)
-- xhuxk (xedd...), July 25th, 2005.

xhuxk, Sunday, 5 March 2006 16:06 (twenty years ago)

Anthony reviewed the OST somewhere in glowing terms, I remember.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 5 March 2006 17:16 (twenty years ago)


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