Can we talk about early-mid70s West Coast post-psych/pop/rock/folk-rock/country-rock?

Any love for Chip Taylor's Last Chance? does it even belong here? Very cool country-rock record......

Christgau on Frummox:

FRUMMOX: Here to There (Probe) Pretentious cowboy music? Yes, pretentious cowboy music. C MINUS

This record is fine imho and would probably be enjoyed by many of you.

i think only christgau stans, all 53 of them, should ever listen to what that dude says

christgau is my reliable bizarro critic. kinda like david denby. if they don't like it, chances are, i will. and if they really like it, i stay away.

the dude pioneered the negative snark style of writing about music & even shit he likes he's gotta zing. it's pretty weak and cowardly imo. i don't want to turn this thread into talking about that, though.

Yeah, let's continue to talk about entertaining stoner cowboys:

http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/itsaboutmusic/early-poco.jpg

yer right, proceed.

i found the tape mix i made for this thread! now i just gotta upload it to da web.

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And like how I finally broke down and bought that Illinois Speed Press album (the first one) that had been taunting me for months on end at the used record store, then filed it and forgot about it cause I was tired when I got home that day, eventually getting around to playing it and after all that not really feeling it at all.

yes! i was just going to ask about that mix!

hell yes, scott, can't wait

i really like that first illinois speed press album. it's got a little bit of everything on it.

I probably need to give it another spin. It just wasn't what I was expecting (byrds/poco/nesmith-style country rock). I did like the guitar playing.

it's got more of a hard-rocking/psychhippie vibe, i always thought. but that shouldn't scare you. you like that stuff.

xpost I've got several Chip Taylor solo albums I haven't played yet, but I *really really* like the sets he's done on public radio shows with Carrie Rodriquez, mostly cos I *really really* like her (with him haven't heard her solo) They even do this hilarious song about how to seduce a country-folkie etc person with red wine 'n' Prine (actually it sounds like something Lee Hazlewood might've done, Chip's growling an all)

Also, don't know how this might sound on CD, but the LP of Buffalo Springfield's Last Time Around really suits this thread (even or especially because they were pretty much broken up then and, but with songs and orchestration and session pickers etc as links x conduits x barriers, like some of the later Beatles albums, but with more upfront/consistent use of the rueful reverie vibe, it's good unified variety and you can tell they've been through a lot but are still young)

electric:

acoustic:

Just heard 'Euphoria - A Gift From Euphoria' for the first time tonight and thought of this thread. Dang good record and I'm going to have to find out the story on these guys - too good for just one record.

ha, i think the downloading thread is kinda bs but i do think you could say that no way in hell would something like a gift from euphoria be made today as it's obvious they threw a shit load of money to record that (london, nashville & la!)
amazing album that never gets old to my ears

bought this michael murphey album from a woman selling lps near a farmer's market here in l.a., $2:

http://images.uulyrics.com/cover/m/michael-martin-murphey/album-geronimos-cadillac.jpg

he's from texas, moved to l.a., recorded this album shortly after moving back to texas. folky, a little gospel-style in places, has this keening, cracking voice like a lower-register neil young. not bad at all.

Another great Texas-LA-Texas guy:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/419Z51XFTQL._SS500_.jpg

Some early '70s albums I've been listening to lately that come close to this category, if not exactly fit into it:

John Hartford- Aereo-Plain
Mickey Newbury- Frisco Mabel Joy
Tom T. Hall- In Search for a Song, I Witness Life
Commander Cody- Lost in the Ozone
Paul Siebel- Jack Knife Gypsy, Woodsmoke & Oranges
New Riders of the Purple Sage- ST
Graham Nash- Songs for Beginners
Link Wray- ST (1971)
Waylon Jennings- The Taker, Singer of Sad Songs
Ian Matthews- If You Saw Thro My Eyes
Elvis Presley- Elvis Country (I'm 10,000 Years Old)
Bill Fay- Time of the Last Persecution
Wizz Jones- The Legendary Me
Johnny Cash- Hello, I'm Johnny Cash
JD Souther- Black Rose
Rodriguez- Cold Fact

Townes Van Zandt- Delta Momma Blues
Merle Haggard- Hag/Someday We'll Look Back

This thread has provided my with much digging and surprisingly I have found much on this thread for cheap. The most recent find was by Vernon Wray called Wasted and a band called Cherokee.

I should thank Stormy Davis for mentioning William Truckaway. Breakaway is now one of my favourite record.

I tried to look up thread for William Truckaway, who is he?

Here's what Stormy Davis wrote :

so have we really not talked about William Truckaway yet on this thread ?? His album has been in heavy rotation for the last year or so since I picked it up (thanks Neil.) It's fucking amazing , mebbe not so much country, but certainly some sort of 'post-psych' poppy folk, or maybe poppy 'post-folk' 70s Psych ,,, not sure .. but the album ("Breakaway") completely rules. Why is NMH the only champ at this point?? but as always he picks a winner

Don't know more about more about him but I can confirm it is indeed fucking fantastic.

doesn't fit the time frame of this thread, came out in '69 i think, but all country byrds fans need to hear don preston & the south's hot air through a straw. been digging it all week.

http://www.platterpus.com/images/76120.jpg

I don't think I've seen this news mentioned on ilm, but country-rock lost a real pioneer when John "Marmaduke" Dawson of the New Riders died on 07.21: http://www.examiner.com/x-15209-The-Dead-Examiner~y2009m7d24-New-Riders-John-Dawson-dies-at-64

I wrote a tribute for the Rhapsody Blog:
http://blog.rhapsody.com/2009/07/the-last-lonely-eagle-john-marmaduke-dawson.html

YouTube doesn't have much New Riders footage when Dawson is leading the band, but there's this:

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Ah, fuck. I never get that right.

I just uploaded a pack of this kind of music to share with a friend and the self titled New Riders lp was one of them. I found it cheap in east Texas, and an amazing record. I can send someone the link if anyone's interested. That is a sad loss.

yeah so William Truckaway was apparently a member of Sopwith Camel (?!) .. i know absolutely nothing about them other than the Peanuts reference. I guess they were west-coast SF AM-pop? If they had a hit, I don't know it. Skot might know more. Sopwith Camel is a cipher to me. I bought the Truckaway album becuz Neil Michael Hagerty -- one of my fave musicians in the history of planet Earth -- covered a Truckaway tune on one of those three "limited edition" vinyl-only LPs that the Howling Hex put out.

but. yeah. 'Breakaway'. Such a sweet, sweet, album! I am so glad that you found it Jamie, and super psyched that you agree with my enthusiasm! it's so nice! and roomy. it feel like, bedroomy and quiet, but also 70s-dreamy style and so forth. yeah, fantastic record!

sopwith camel had a hit (minor?) with the song "hello hello" which was in that old-timey style that the psych bands used to love to play around with (there's a thread about that). the song was covered by claudine longet, who was sort of born to sing that kind of twee, cutesy stuff

lol tim mentions hello hello in the first post on this thread
Good Trip or Bummer? U.S. Psych Bands Doing "Old-Timey" Songs on Their Albums

lol
Let's be clear: we're talkin' hardcore gay nineties, bicycle-built-for-two music here.
-- Tim Ellison

Does this song qualify as early-mid 70s West Coast pop/rock/country-rock?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiEIToOWr64

I love this song so much.

Heads up for Doug Sahm/SDQ fans, Bear Family is fixing to drop a new Louie & The Lovers set, featuring their great Doug-produced album from '70 (which Evangeline put on cd some years back) plus their lost Atlantic lp from '72!

that William Truckaway LP arrived in the mail today--really enjoy it. Second side a bit more than the first, which has a mellow "LA session guy" sound, but totally well played and pleasant.

http://ventvox.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/51EoE1GUpLL.jpg
has this been mentioned? Basically Jansch's early-mid70s West Coast post-psych/pop/rock/folk-rock/country-rock record. And pretty great! Drag City just reissued ....

I have a rapidshare link for that William Truckaway album, if anyone's interested.

Friend of mine just recommended that Jansch record. I haven't heard it but I'm curious.

finally hearing this for the first time. what a fine record. definitely for fans of epic bucolic tom rapp/bradleys barn-era beau brummels. really dig it.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_qnm4zt0AZZo/STWJbgLO1yI/AAAAAAAAAeg/fqh1OyHZlHs/s320/appaloosa.jpg

finally heard the 1977 album that Billy Nicholls did for Capitol too. White Horse. Lots of lovely moments. Billy goes from The Small Faces and a 60's psych masterpiece to epic western ballads with half of Little Feat backing him up. some seriously DREAMY balladry going on here. it's no wonder that Leo Sayer and the Marshall Tucker Band covered a song from this album. they were dreamers too. okay, phil collins covered it too, but what can i do, it's a good song.

http://www.geocities.com/mikegriffiths6/White_Horse.jpg

John Parker Compton's solo album To Luna is light years ahead of the Appaloosa record.

http://psychspaniolos.blogspot.com/2008/07/john-parker-compton-to-luna-1971.html

i believe it. dude was talented. he was only 19 when he made the appaloosa record and he already seems fully formed as a songwriter.

Never was a huge fan of the Appaloosa record, but thanks for the tip Hatch.

really? what's not to like about it? too many strings for you or something? i think its dreamy.

yeah a bit too produced iirc. i haven't heard it in a few years at least. i'll give it another spin next time it comes around.

I saw some mention The Dude upthread. Last weekend I went to a midnight showing of The Big Lebowski at the Belcourt here in Nashville and all these stoned kids were yelling at the screen & singing all the songs along with the movie. I have been on a post-psych/pop/rock/folk-rock/country-rock kick since then... although I call this genre "Cosmic American Music"
Has anyone mentioned ...

The Everly Brothers - Roots

Great LP if you like Sweetheart of the Rodeo etc

by the way am I the only guy who digs the first Crosby Stills & Nash LP? I found it used and have worn it out. I assume it's not hip to like... but then again the Fleet Foxes are pitchfork darlings and that is not that far removed from CSN in many ways