Classic or dud : Jane's Addiction

"pets" was played somewhere last week.
brought back some memories.
good song.

Pets, yeah. That one was pretty good. Wasn't that a side project after JA though?

The "hits" songs are all uniformly terrible.

Porno for Pyros
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i think it's been mentioned 10 x in this thread, but the second half of ritual makes all the other silliness associated with this band almost worth it.

Ritual and Nothing's Shocking are awesome.

Perry Ferrell is a dick.

Back once more:

...it was confirmed on Dave Navarro's blog Tuesday that the entire lineup would reunite Thursday for a full show at La Cita Bar in downtown Los Angeles. The night is hosted by Shepard Fairey, who will break away from maniacally screenprinting Obama posters and T-shirts for the evening.

Eric A's been back with them this time around. Too little, too late. (His solo album's all right enough.)

http://xiola.org/

2.25.09

i got my hands on some digital pics of jane's addiction's boxset cabinet of curiosities coming out april 21st and a track list. the packaging looks cool as shit. from the pics you can see quite a bit went into packaging. there is one main booklet, four individual sleeves highly decorated. it's gonna be four discs, 3 audio, one dvd.

http://xiola.org/news/2009/boxset.jpg
http://xiola.org/news/2009/boxset_open.jpg

unofficial track list

DISC [1]
0.CD
1.JANE SAYS (RADIO TOKYO DEMO) [UNRELEASED]
2.PIGS IN ZEN (RADIO TOKYO DEMO) [SCREAM - THE COMPILATION]
3.MOUNTAIN SONG (RADIO TOKYO DEMO) [OST: DUDES]
4.HAD A DAD (RADIO TOKYO DEMO) [SINGLE]
5.I WOULD FOR YOU (RADIO TOKYO DEMO) [SINGLE]
6.IDIOT'S RULE [APRIL 1987 DEMO]
7.CLASSIC GIRL [APRIL 1987 DEMO]
8.UP THE BEACH [APRIL 1987 DEMO]
9.SUFFER SOME [APRIL 1987 DEMO]
10.THANK YOU BOYS [APRIL 1987 DEMO]
11.SUMMERTIME ROLLS [APRIL 1987 DEMO]
12.CITY [APRIL 1987 DEMO]
13.OCEAN SIZE [APRIL 1987 DEMO]
14.STOP [APRIL 1987 DEMO]
15.STANDING IN THE SHOWER?THINKING [APRIL 1987 DEMO]
16.AIN'T NO RIGHT [APRIL 1987 DEMO]
17.THREE DAYS [APRIL 1987 DEMO]

DISC [2]
0.CD
1.TED, JUST ADMIT IT [HULLY GULLY DEMO (9/1987)]
2.MACEO [HULLY GULLY DEMO (9/1987)]
3.NO ONE'S LEAVING [HULLY GULLY DEMO (9/1987)]
4.MY TIME (REHEARSAL) [UNRELEASED]
5.BEEN CAUGHT STEALING (12"" REMIX) [SINGLE]
6.RIPPLE [DEDICATED]
7.DON'T CALL ME NIGGER, WHITEY [PROMO] *JANE'S ADDICTION & BODY COUNT
8.L.A. MEDLEY (LIVE) [SINGLE]
9.KETTLE WHISTLE (LIVE) [VARIETY ARTS CENTER(7/10/1987)]
10.WHOLE LOTTA LOVE (LIVE) [SACRAMENTO (7/8/1987)]
11.1970 (LIVE) [SEATTLE (12/11/1987)]
12.BOBHAUS (LIVE) [SEATTLE (3/29/1989)]
13.JUST BECAUSE (ACOUSTIC) [UNRELEASED]
14.SUFFER SOME (LIVE) [SINGLE]
15.THE PRICE I PAY (LIVE) [SINGLE]

DISC [3]
0.CD
1.DRUM INTRO [HOLLYWOOD PALLADIUM (12/19/90)]
2.UP THE BEACH (LIVE) [KETTLE WHISTLE]
3.WHORES (LIVE) [HOLLYWOOD PALLADIUM (12/19/90)]
4.1% (LIVE) [HOLLYWOOD PALLADIUM (12/19/90)]
5.NO ONE'S LEAVING (LIVE) [SINGLE]
6.AIN'T NO RIGHT (LIVE) [SINGLE]
7.THEN SHE DID (LIVE) [HOLLYWOOD PALLADIUM (12/19/90)]
8.HAD A DAD (LIVE) [HOLLYWOOD PALLADIUM (12/19/90)]
9.BEEN CAUGHT STEALING (LIVE) [HOLLYWOOD PALLADIUM (12/19/90)]
10.THREE DAYS (LIVE) [KETTLE WHISTLE]
11.MOUNTAIN SONG (LIVE) [HOLLYWOOD PALLADIUM (12/19/90)]
12.STOP! (LIVE) [KETTLE WHISTLE]
13.SUMMERTIME ROLLS (LIVE) [HOLLYWOOD PALLADIUM (12/19/90)]
14.OCEAN SIZE (LIVE) [HOLLYWOOD PALLADIUM (12/19/90)]

DISC [4]
0.DVD
1.MOUNTAIN SONG (UNEDITED) [SOUL KISS]
2.CITY [SOUL KISS]
3.HAD A DAD [PROMO CLIP]
4.MOUNTAIN SONG [PROMO CLIP]
5.STOP! [PROMO CLIP]
6.AIN'T NO RIGHT [PROMO CLIP]
7.BEEN CAUGHT STEALING [PROMO CLIP]
8.CLASSIC GIRL [PROMO CLIP]
9.OCEAN SIZE [PROMO CLIP]
10.JANES SAYS [PROMO CLIP]
11.WHORES [LIVE - ITALY]
12.THREE DAYS [LIVE - ITALY]
13.THEN SHE DID [LIVE - ITALY]
14.DON'T CALL ME NIGGER WHITEY (LIVE) [UNRELEASED]

Hmm. Well that I'll get.

otoh i understand people putting out these tricked-out sets and everything because how else are you going to get anyone to spend any money on music. but even people who don't live in city apartments don't have like endless amounts of display space for all this stuff, do they? i literally would have no place to put that thing. (yes ok i could buy it, rip it and throw away the box. but jeez.)

gimme the dvd, the rest i can take or leave. even the shittiest janes youtube clips are pretty enthralling.

Got the advance of this box in this morning's mail. I was at the show included on Disc 3, so am pretty excited to dig into that, but the demos and such on the first two discs look pretty compelling too.

Oh, now I have to buy that.

BTW, I always thought it was: "One night I met a poet."

Yeah I'm definitely getting this.

Yeah, it seems pretty clearly to be "One night I met a poet." I was listening to that song not two days ago and had absolutely no confusion about the lyric...

It's very distinctly that and not anything else, although Raggett's suggestion is superiorl.

superior.

Superiorlol. And I still prefer it.

I was at the show included on Disc 3

Okay so I hate you (I remember being pissed I had to miss that show -- that and the Pet Shop Boys in March 1991 are my two greatest 'argh if only' regrets from UCLA days, I think. I did see Jane's about a month or so later at the Universal with NIN opening, though, so there's that.)

Oh shit, this band.

This band live.

This band dead

rong

LJ catching up on 1991

2009 baby

Every band member still great live except for Brüno

motherfuckin' took the pain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx6691i0KDE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Uj4Q4zbtfM&NR=1

yes

How many times is Jane's Addiction going to rise from the dead? (This time, Dave Sitek is the bassist.) New song, "End to the Lies"

http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2011/03/30/janes-addiction-end-to-the-lies-stream-great-escape-artists/

Absolute must-read piece from Bill See, who was there, man. (Seriously, he was there, as a singer for his own band; he's also a v. good writer.)

http://www.popmatters.com/pm/feature/144500-janes-affliction/

It is a great read, but also somewhat depressing to think that you really didn't hear the "real" Jane's unless you happened to be in L.A. watching them live before the first album.

Based on the various live cuts I've heard on bootlegs before Nothing's Shocking came out, I suspect he's OTM in the end. (And I say this loving those first three albums and the shows I did see.)

Oh, I'm sure he's 100% right, but as much as I love those first three albums it pains me a little to know even that wasn't the band's peak.

yesterday I turned on alt-radio for the first time in a long long time and heard some moody goth-influenced rock song rolling out of my speakers that fired off every want impulse in my body

it was "Irresistible Force"

the "three days"/"then she did..." one-two.

add on "Of Course" and you have the most devastating 1-2-3 of 1991-1992

The demos he mentions are really good (although not sure if they're so decisively better than the album versions).

"Oh, I'm sorry. I'm used to getting grease on my hands, you know, workin' with pizza and all."

JA played a school benefit for my kid's school yesterday, there were about 500 kids/parents there:

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/3168_10151191807078467_1389443676_n.jpg
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I hadn't seen them perform in over 22 years (with Dinosaur Jr. opening up). They still sounded pretty good.

Good times.

"thanks for coming out, this benefit will get these kids the updated math books they need so that they don't end up as... WHORES! *music starts"

"Been Caught Stealin'! Once, in study hall!"

*insert trolling of your own choice here*

http://open.spotify.com/track/13EpmgPUF4KL4TlXOGqUPD
http://open.spotify.com/track/4adGevk93O42gzhGUIjHRa
http://open.spotify.com/track/4FIVO1LXRTjdewCtJv3qzW

that entire sequence is perfection

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5NN8eMDir0

the whole 1990 Milan tv broadcast.

Listening to Ritual de lo Habitual for the first time in quite a few years I could really hear how much triggered replacements were used on the drums. It still 'kinda' works on something like "Been Caught Stealing" which had kind of a hypnotic drum feel, but the repetitive each and every snare hit will sound like the other one with no dynamics definitely doesn't work on the track "Obvious".

gonna kick tomorrow ~
Eric A not only wrote Jane says but is also the son of Dustin hoffman’s rival suitor in the graduate !

Nothing's Shocking was a watershed album for me. An extremely important record that came out at just the right time for me to fall in love with. I still play it.

Everything else is meh.

Ritual is their moment of glory for me; NS feels like they were trying to be metal ("Had a Dad," "Mountain Song"), and and to be "alternative" and self-deflating ("Thank You Boys," "Standing in the Shower...Thinking," "Idiots Rule") at the same time. On Ritual they embraced their art-rock insanity. Side 2 > Side 1, but there's really not a bad song on the thing.

trying to wrap my head around liking Jane's Addiction but not Mountain Song

I like "Mountain Song," and "Had a Dad" and "Jane Says" and "Up the Beach" and "Ocean Size" and "Summertime Rolls." That's half or more of a very good album. But everything else on that record is negligible or bad. Ritual has nothing anywhere near as bad as the weak tracks on NS.