Oasis - Classic or Dud?

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Wot 'bout the Masterplan? What's everybody's take on dat one? Some of the b-sides I find to be incredible, but I haven't listened to much of it.

― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Friday, 23 January 2004 23:40 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah they are still huge. so huge when andy asked me to send him a mix cd - he wanted me to send it too their management. ha ha ha! i felt like tutti on facts of life when she made the tito paper mache head. i don't think i'm going to do send it on. ha ha.

― dr doome, Friday, 23 January 2004 23:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Do you laugh like that in real life?

― Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Friday, 23 January 2004 23:42 (twenty-two years ago)

i know what happened to tutti's paper mache head!!

― dr doom, Friday, 23 January 2004 23:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Oasis though the `scope:

The tunes - Inoffensive, if not entirely unoriginal. And overrated.
The lyrics - Mostly shit.
The image (if you care about that sort've thing) - Utterly boring.
"Personality" - Apart from the brothers incomprehensibly berating each other all the time (and that, too, got dull), the band has zero in the personality department....nicknames like "Bonehead" notwithstanding.
Stage presence - Once again, apart from Liam acting like an ass, null & void.
Album cover art - Yawnsome.
Edge - Oft-touted, rarely displayed.
Groove - Non-existant.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 23 January 2004 23:46 (twenty-two years ago)

disagree alex. liam's silent thug-lite routine is quite good.

― doom, Friday, 23 January 2004 23:49 (twenty-two years ago)

For Definitely Maybe, half of What's The Story and The Masterplan, classic. For most of the rest and the incredibly boring tabloid shenannigans, dud.

So a score draw for me.

― Chris Jones (Crackity Jones), Friday, 23 January 2004 23:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Biscuits. Patsy Kensit.

― Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Friday, 23 January 2004 23:49 (twenty-two years ago)

first 2 albums are classic.
3rd album was good kinda
4th album not so good
5th album is the king of not so goodery
and that pretty much sums it up for me

― Dude (The Yellow Dart), Friday, 23 January 2004 23:50 (twenty-two years ago)

but i'm gonna say classic cause i like the first 2 albums

― Dude (The Yellow Dart), Friday, 23 January 2004 23:51 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah part of me wishes that they went away after the first - imagine the cult-classic status of the album!! if that happened!!!

when they opened up for neil young - and liam did 'morning glory' - that moment sold me on oasis as a live act.

― dr doome, Friday, 23 January 2004 23:52 (twenty-two years ago)

yes me too it touched me in ways my step dad couldn't......i have no idea what your talking about by the way

― Dude (The Yellow Dart), Saturday, 24 January 2004 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

hooray!

― doomies, Saturday, 24 January 2004 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Definition of DUD.

― Jim Reckling (Jim Reckling), Saturday, 24 January 2004 01:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Tico Tico, was it you or Alex who in Frank's APA said that in the future people would hate "Definitely Maybe" the same way we know hate Pink Floyd's "The Wall"? Can you explain what was meant by these comments?

― DV (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 25 January 2004 18:52 (twenty-two years ago)

i rather liked the Britpop thing UNTIL i saw Oasis live at Knebworth (between Morning Glory and Be Here Now). seeing them live, supported by Ocean Colour Scene and the Manic Street Preaches killed guitar music for me, for about 5 years.

nuff said.

― searchanddelete, Sunday, 25 January 2004 19:11 (twenty-two years ago)

It wasn't me. I love The Wall.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 25 January 2004 19:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Who the fuck hates The Wall? That's, like, the best-produced album ever!!

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Sunday, 25 January 2004 19:41 (twenty-two years ago)

the U2 of indie.

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 25 January 2004 19:48 (twenty-two years ago)

it would have been Embra Alex - Alex in NYC was never in Frank's APA.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 25 January 2004 21:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't even know what Frank's APA is.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 26 January 2004 00:28 (twenty-two years ago)

'Who the fuck hates The Wall?'

Me. Bag of Shite.

― pete s, Monday, 26 January 2004 00:40 (twenty-two years ago)

And it doesn't surprise me in the least that it's one of Noel's favourite albums. As the Ned-meister would say, 'So much is suddenly clear'.

― pete s, Monday, 26 January 2004 00:42 (twenty-two years ago)

*bows*

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 January 2004 00:46 (twenty-two years ago)

"Definitely Maybe" is a great little rock album, tight and focused.
"Whats the Story Morning Glory" is full of filler and overproduced.

Best thing they ever did : "Some Might Say" (UK cd single) - the title track, "Acquiesce", "Talk Tonight" (Noel's best acoustic thingy) and "Headshrinker". Perfect.

Everything after Morning Glory is poo, frankly...

― David Nolan (David N.), Monday, 26 January 2004 01:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Best thing they ever did : "Some Might Say" (UK cd single)

I agree hands down. Not one step misplaced on that one.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 January 2004 01:26 (twenty-two years ago)

It might have been both of us DV. If it was Definitely Maybe then I'm not sure what we meant. If it was What's The Story then it was probably just a really crapulent album that everybody at the time was buying.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 26 January 2004 10:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, the second album would have been better if they didn't have to pull the Stevie Wonder rip off track a week before release, stuck on the other 3 Some Might Say cd single tracks and left off a couple of the crap ones like She's Electric. It would have been ideal for them then to have broken up in 96.

― David Gunnip (David Gunnip), Monday, 26 January 2004 12:30 (twenty-two years ago)

The thing is, looking back on 1996 in particular, it seems amazing now to think of quite how HUGE they were. I mean, they dominated everything like no other UK band has done since - they were on the front pages of the tabloids pretty much once a week (alternating with Di and Gazza, obviously) - now I find myself forgetting they're even still around.

Definitely Maybe had some good songs on it, but I'm still coming down on the side of dud. Never saw what was supposed to be so great about Liam's voice.

Classic if only for the interviews, mind.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 26 January 2004 12:38 (twenty-two years ago)

does anyone else think 'Songbird' is ALRIGHT?

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 26 January 2004 12:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I could probably fill one side of a C60 with Oasis songs I liked. Their offensiveness as a band was completely disproportionately small compared to the stuff they inspired. Since 2000 I've found ignoring them to be far easier than people are making out; I can't imagine *any* of my friends saying, "Ooh, I wonder what the new Oasis album is going to sound like."

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Monday, 26 January 2004 12:56 (twenty-two years ago)

a friend of mine bought a post Be Here Now Wasis album because someone on ILX said it was good. He blames me for this mistake.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Monday, 26 January 2004 13:18 (twenty-two years ago)

can't decide if 'Little By Little' is worse than 'Sunday Morning Call' or not - definitely their two worst singles and by some distance

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 26 January 2004 13:30 (twenty-two years ago)

One of the first bands I got into, so can't really claim to hate them, though I bought none of their stuff after 'Morning Glory,' which I never liked.

The image (if you care about that sort've thing) - Utterly boring

This is missing the point, which was that Oasis were like the crowd up on stage. Plus it wasn't that boring, they had an air of menace -- in the UK.
They weren't 'indie' but they came out of indie 'culture' (ie NME readers, Evening Session listeners). Croation wasn't a 'real' indie by that point, but it was more indie than Columbia, shall we say.

― Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 26 January 2004 13:45 (twenty-two years ago)

sorry stevem 'Go Let It Out' is, and and always will be their worst single. It was also the moment, when I saw the vid on smtv, at which i gave up on them for good.
(i like Sunday Morning Call tho)

― pete s, Monday, 26 January 2004 14:01 (twenty-two years ago)

All Around The World is their worst!

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 26 January 2004 14:04 (twenty-two years ago)

No All Around the World is flatulent and cliched and overlong and decadent, but its not rubbish. I know this makes no sense.

― pete s, Monday, 26 January 2004 14:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Tico OTM. The key change. The Richard Ashcroft backing vocals. PH34R.

― Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 26 January 2004 14:09 (twenty-two years ago)

OH GOD THE KEY CHANGE

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 26 January 2004 14:10 (twenty-two years ago)

"air of menace" haha if you know the true story behind the newcastle riverside "riot"

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 26 January 2004 14:11 (twenty-two years ago)

two months pass...

All Around The World is worst if only cos of the video.

I'm reading John Harris' not-very-good Last Party right now which prompted me to revive this thread.

― Venga, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 17:53 (twenty-two years ago)

"The Last Party" is a really good book and Oasis (for first two albums, B-sides, "Whatever" EP, "Don't go Away"/ "Who Feels Love"/ "Hindu Times"/ "Stop Crying" are CLASSIC.

― CRW (CRW), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 18:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Damn. Sorry folks.

― Venga, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 18:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Watching a bit of some crappy documentary about '10 years of Oasis' on telly last night, I was reminded of something that always puzzled me a bit about them. They had some footage of Liam facing up to a photographer or someone, in a kind of OTT, eyeball-to-eyeball, poking fingers kind of way. This kind of performance always struck me as a completely ridiculous pose, somehow even more ridiculous than someone like Brett Anderson waving his arse around and pretending to be a bohemian bisexual. I've come to terms a bit with glammy poseurs, but the loutish aggressive pose still sticks in my craw a bit, esp. that anyone would fall for it. Am I wrong to think it was all a pose? Was it real somehow? Was he angry? What about? That question isn't necessarily answered by whether or not he would have acted in the same way down the pub had he not been famous.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 18:24 (twenty-two years ago)

I bet Liam would nut you for that. I reckon he's a tough son of a gun!

― CRW (CRW), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 18:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Dud, Dud, Dud, Dud, Dud!
Apart from 'She's Electric'.

― Jamie Fake (the pirate king), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 19:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Search
Acquiesce
Talk Tonight
It's Better People
Roll With It
Supersonic
Listen Up

― 57 7th (calstars), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:07 (twenty-two years ago)

two years pass...

Regardless of what you think about Oasis, can someone please watch this , specifically at the 3:50 and 5:02 marks, and tell me what the hell happened?

― Zachary Scott (Zach S), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

it sounds like Liam is doing the 'muh-nuh muh-nuh' bit of the Muppets song

― 2 american 4 u (blueski), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

i lost respect for Noel long ago but still enjoy his level of candidness in interviews, even if/when he is wrong

― 2 american 4 u (blueski), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

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