― David. (Cozen), Friday, 12 September 2003 22:18 (twenty-one years ago) link
― David. (Cozen), Friday, 12 September 2003 22:20 (twenty-one years ago) link
― David. (Cozen), Friday, 12 September 2003 22:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 12 September 2003 22:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
― rumple, Saturday, 13 September 2003 00:03 (twenty-one years ago) link
someone else finish this off. for the record, i don't think i have ever bought a better 2 disc set than this, not a wasted moment on either one.
― Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Thursday, 2 October 2003 14:08 (twenty years ago) link
100. Tell me Mama
― Fabrice (Fabfunk), Friday, 3 October 2003 07:44 (twenty years ago) link
100. The way the acoustic set is disk one and electric is disk two. Just so you traditionalists can play the first and walk out instead of putting on disk 2.
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 3 October 2003 08:36 (twenty years ago) link
― amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 3 October 2003 09:24 (twenty years ago) link
― Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 5 May 2005 13:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 5 May 2005 13:15 (nineteen years ago) link
(From the "Spin CDs" site)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 5 May 2005 14:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Douglas (Douglas), Thursday, 5 May 2005 16:53 (nineteen years ago) link
do you think one day something akin to "the genuine basement tapes" will be released by sony?
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 5 May 2005 18:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Friday, 2 February 2007 15:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― say it with blood diamonds (a_p), Friday, 2 February 2007 15:29 (seventeen years ago) link
― A Tiny Footpath (Bimble...), Friday, 2 February 2007 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― Mr. Que (Mr.Que), Friday, 2 February 2007 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link
-1) the harmonica at the start of 'fourth time around'. people who diss his harmonica work should be shot.
― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 15:35 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah this is the best. and even though they were basically playing the same set every night, that genuine live 66 is verrrry much worth tracking down. shouldn't be too hard to find a download. i pretty much lived on this for a couple months when I was 21.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 15:43 (fifteen years ago) link
ok this isn't a # but I can't find another thread on Dylan 1966. I recently d/l'ed the ridiculous Genuine Live 1966 and Jewels and Binoculars boot boxes but they're so massive that I've just begun to wade therein. Anyway, I have a question. Were there other tours (I mean, by other artists) with an acoustic set first and an electric set second, before Dylan starts doing this in 1965?
― wide swing juggalo (Euler), Thursday, 6 August 2009 15:39 (fifteen years ago) link
i can't think of anyone who did this before Dylan -- I mean, in the rock world at the time, everyone was straight-up electric, right?
― tylerw, Thursday, 6 August 2009 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, me neither. I'm listening to Neil Young 1973 boots and he's doing the acoustic set -> electric set thing too, and he continues to do it for years (cf. Live Rust, for instance). And it occurred to me how I automatically parse this as a Dylan thing, and wondered about predecessors. By 1972 the Dead kinda pull this, but that's way later obviously; prob. lots of other acts are doing this around 1970 as well but I can't think of them.
― wide swing juggalo (Euler), Thursday, 6 August 2009 15:47 (fifteen years ago) link
so uh dylan nerds, what bootleg/comp/live record has this on it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atUiJKsP3Jg&feature=related
― dayo, Thursday, 21 October 2010 01:16 (thirteen years ago) link
Folk Rogue bootleg.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 21 October 2010 01:18 (thirteen years ago) link
cheers!
― dayo, Thursday, 21 October 2010 01:21 (thirteen years ago) link
I hope you enjoy it when you track it down - it's a good one!
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 21 October 2010 01:23 (thirteen years ago) link
looking forward! the youtube just slays - that manic, tribal drumming is incredible
― dayo, Thursday, 21 October 2010 01:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Is that the Newport 65 version of "Maggie's Farm"? I think so. & if so it's on Bootleg Series 7, the No Direction Home soundtrack.
― Euler, Thursday, 21 October 2010 01:32 (thirteen years ago) link
I think you're right. Though Folk Rogue has the whole set, as well as the Newport '64 set. Nice to hear the difference year-to-year.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 21 October 2010 01:50 (thirteen years ago) link
okay I didn't mean to say the drumming was awesome - I meant the bass. I love that one-two bassline. I wish I knew more about folk music so I could say more than just "it's that one-two folksy bassline".
― dayo, Thursday, 21 October 2010 03:52 (thirteen years ago) link
somehow the youtube version sounds louder and more raw. hmm
― dayo, Thursday, 21 October 2010 03:53 (thirteen years ago) link
I think the youtube is sped up. whatever, I'm tapping my toes.
― dayo, Thursday, 21 October 2010 03:56 (thirteen years ago) link
it was The Paul Butterfield Blues Band what backed Bob up on that set. I definitely think that YouTube is sped up
― Stormy Davis, Thursday, 21 October 2010 03:57 (thirteen years ago) link
well they fucking killed it. cannot stop listening to this today! makes me want to get a big ol upright bass.
― dayo, Thursday, 21 October 2010 04:11 (thirteen years ago) link
Judas!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKOJO3pKxw0
The Newport '65 (electic) show was 47 years ago today. (Seemed to be the most applicable thread.)
― clemenza, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 14:28 (twelve years ago) link
and almost ten years since his triumphant return!http://img2-2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/020819/161625__bob_dylan_l.jpg
― tylerw, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 15:13 (twelve years ago) link
Why does “Ballad of a Thin Man” sound so shitty on this album? Do any of the bootlegs have better sound quality?
― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 29 July 2021 22:41 (three years ago) link
What I hear is a shitty-sounding take on an otherwise rockin’ Dylan set. What Dave Marsh hears is… ahem: “As Dylan and the Hawks tune their way into "Ballad of A Thin Man", a tension, intangible but definable for anyone who has ever seen great music performed in its live context, accrues, becomes almost unbearable and then is relieved by the most precisely perfect note from Robbie Robertson. A swoop of the purest finery, not all flash and filigree but something else, something so simple that it treads the thinnest edge of becoming merely mundane. Its B. B. King antecedents laid bare, it remains the most cosmic rush I've ever experienced from mere music, totally unadulterated by chemical...a pristine swoop, up and then down and then back up again, Robertson soaring on that single note to heights the significance of which the average guitarist couldn't begin to comprehend even if he were capable of playing them.”
― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 29 July 2021 22:48 (three years ago) link
The "About the Recordings" section at the end of the booklet mentions that the tapes "came with built-in limiting/compression," and some sound issues arising from that... that song may be particularly affected?
― Low FODMAP* Snack Ideas (morrisp), Thursday, 29 July 2021 23:13 (three years ago) link
FWIW, the Free Trade Hall show on Live 1966 was officially mixed twice - the first time, Dylan didn't think it accurately reflected what people heard at the show (too clean, too tame) and rejected it. It eventually got leaked and was promptly bootlegged. In the mid-to-late 1990s, they mixed it again, this time with a dirtier, more aggressive sound, including more compression, and Dylan approved it for release.
What that in mind, it's possible you may prefer the bootleg of the first mix. (I don't have it, I've always been fine with the official release.)
― birdistheword, Thursday, 29 July 2021 23:30 (three years ago) link
there was a new mix of the manchester show made for this thing... also includes another 17 (increasingly ragged) performances of boatm if you really want to go there
― no lime tangier, Friday, 30 July 2021 08:52 (three years ago) link
actually, looking around i can't find any info to back up my assertion about its being a new mix. i do recall noting on my one listen that it sounded different to my memory of the earlier release (then again i could just be entirely wrong!)
― no lime tangier, Friday, 30 July 2021 10:18 (three years ago) link
I actually prefer the electric set from the Liverpool show. (FWIW, only a few songs are known to exist on tape from the acoustic set.) It wasn't recorded to multi-track, so it only exists as a mono Nagra recording for D A Pennebaker's filming, but the performance more than makes up for it - it's even sharper and more ferocious. For decades the only official release from the 1966 tour was "Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues" from the Liverpool set, and it was issued barely a month after the show as the B-side to "I Want You."
― birdistheword, Friday, 30 July 2021 16:06 (three years ago) link
Absolutely LOVE that version of “Tom Thumb”. “And my best friend my doctor… he won’t even TELL me WHAT it IS iIiiiigggggghhhuhhhhh.”
― Mr. Snrub, Friday, 30 July 2021 19:40 (three years ago) link
one thing I love on this is in the acoustic set where Dylan seems to creep into each song like it’s a dark room, his singing is a flashlight picking each lyric out of the murk
― assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 30 July 2021 23:24 (three years ago) link