you do realize the review was written by a senior editor and not "the intern"
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Thursday, 20 October 2016 04:01 (nine years ago)
like, I don't care if the review was 1000 words, 999 of which were actually a digression to endorse Donald Trump, that'd still be unnecessary and insulting
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Thursday, 20 October 2016 04:17 (nine years ago)
that it was written by a senior editor makes the review even sadder
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 October 2016 15:39 (nine years ago)
hahaha god
― imago, Thursday, 20 October 2016 16:34 (nine years ago)
not as sad as failing to read someone's title, which is right on the fucking page)
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Thursday, 20 October 2016 16:40 (nine years ago)
er, missing parenthetical should be (but that'd require actually engaging in good faith)
fwiw I did read it. I also know what a waltz is.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 October 2016 16:50 (nine years ago)
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Thursday, October 20, 2016 12:40 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
oh come on
― flappy bird, Thursday, 20 October 2016 16:53 (nine years ago)
i take back the bit about it being written by an intern. i proffer instead the view that at least one of pitchfork's senior editors writes like an intern
― imago, Thursday, 20 October 2016 16:54 (nine years ago)
the review's emphasis on how self-aware the artist is is embarrassing, it's basically insulting to artists in general by implying that it's unusual for an artist to be aware of the tropes/styles/aesthetic frameworks they operate in
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 October 2016 16:56 (nine years ago)
xpost
lmao
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 20 October 2016 16:58 (nine years ago)
Katherine, how do you expect this argument to play out, honestly?
Louis: "This review is bad."
Katherine: "Um, it was written by a senior editor at Pitchfork Media."
Louis: "My mistake, it is in fact very good."
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 20 October 2016 17:03 (nine years ago)
That wasn't really her point though, as far as I can tell. Just that it wasn't actually written by an intern.
― Evan, Thursday, 20 October 2016 17:05 (nine years ago)
my point is "if you're going to publicly mock writers and/or their work, you should at least get your facts straight," and also "maybe don't refer to senior editors as 'the intern,' especially if they're women"
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Thursday, 20 October 2016 17:18 (nine years ago)
Um, a lot of his favorite art films pass the Bechdel test, remember?
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 20 October 2016 17:25 (nine years ago)
Whiney, how do you expect this argument to play out, honestly? :)
― Frederik B, Thursday, 20 October 2016 17:34 (nine years ago)
ideally without me reading the review or learning what "weyes blood" sounds like
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 20 October 2016 17:38 (nine years ago)
you'd like the record i feel. it's good
― flappy bird, Thursday, 20 October 2016 17:41 (nine years ago)
cool, you got anything i can read on it?
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:00 (nine years ago)
also, to clarify, katherine, yes I see how louis is using coded misogynist language, but i just think it's fun to pop in here and be a dick
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:01 (nine years ago)
referring to a female senior editor as 'the intern' strikes me as less of an antifeminist dickmove than halfheartedly giving one of the greatest albums of the 21st century so far an 8.3 and a trite let's-make-loads-of-shitty-comparisons review when had it been made by a man, say mark kozelek, who is maybe 1/60 as interesting as weyes blood, the review would have been fucking oceans of existential rapture. idk though it's all subjective isn't it
― imago, Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:07 (nine years ago)
xp whiney, you have finally crafted your platonic ideal post; please contact the tattoo parlor asap<3
― the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:08 (nine years ago)
referring to a female senior editor as 'the intern' strikes me as less of an antifeminist dickmove than halfheartedly giving one of the greatest albums of the 21st century so far an 8.3
https://67.media.tumblr.com/7e87f06fd6f49e15b90e24bb725b929d/tumblr_nwi2h92tYt1uj1zxso1_400.gif
― nomar, Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:34 (nine years ago)
Louis, heads up, your weird obsession with RYM ratings and Pitchfork scores is really more appropriate for /mu/ and Reddit and Fantano YouTube comments and other places where — COINCIDENCE?!?! — is also more acceptable to make antifeminist dickmoves.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:35 (nine years ago)
― imago, Thursday, October 20, 2016 11:07 AM (twenty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
nice bait and switch here by the big man
― *-* (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:36 (nine years ago)
those places are full of actual mouthbreathing morons though so I don't post there
i can see why it was a problematic statement and i feel a bit bad for saying it but i really was just commenting on the ineptitude of the writing. i didn't even consider the gender of the writer. perhaps i should have. sorry.
― imago, Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:37 (nine years ago)
intern lives matter
― The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:39 (nine years ago)
and fwiw i think that more music journalism should be by women, poc and other non-hegemonic identities, but that won't stop me from calling out shitty music journalism if it directly misconstrues the work of artists i like, no matter who wrote it
― imago, Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:41 (nine years ago)
and fwiw i think that more music journalism should be by women, poc and other non-hegemonic identities, but that won't stop me from calling women "the intern"
― imago, Thursday, October 20, 2016 2:41 PM (forty-one seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:42 (nine years ago)
you're a pest, whiney, a pest
― imago, Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:45 (nine years ago)
from here to internity
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:47 (nine years ago)
guys this is the thread for complaining about Pfork not rehashing pointless beefs
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:48 (nine years ago)
lol
― imago, Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:48 (nine years ago)
looks like this thread has taken a 'tern for the worse
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:49 (nine years ago)
so I heard weyes blood in a movie theater the other day
― flappy bird, Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:51 (nine years ago)
you know what's a cool film is Wise Blood
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 October 2016 19:24 (nine years ago)
this part kinda puzzled me:
"Or look to the album’s cover. The scene—a river winding through a dystopian landscape..."
https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a2396628571_10.jpg
― scott seward, Thursday, 20 October 2016 20:51 (nine years ago)
i don't know, whiney, this sounds made for you:
"On “Generation Why,” arguably the album’s centerpiece, she actually sings the letters “YOLO” with more thoughtful care than the phrase ever deserved."
― scott seward, Thursday, 20 October 2016 20:54 (nine years ago)
haha totes trolling whiney
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 20 October 2016 21:07 (nine years ago)
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 20 October 2016 21:22 (nine years ago)
it really is a *terrific* album, though
― alpine static, Thursday, 20 October 2016 23:35 (nine years ago)
lol what a hellscape
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Friday, 21 October 2016 13:41 (nine years ago)
Someone should get her out of there before the tide rises!
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 21 October 2016 13:49 (nine years ago)
not to worry
she'll touch upon the california drought in her next record
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, 21 October 2016 18:13 (nine years ago)
Ha, guess what they are playing in Rough Trade right now
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 22 October 2016 15:27 (nine years ago)
https://www.google.com/#safe=off&q=pitchfork.com+wizened
Did I miss the part where the accepted meaning of "wizened" changed due to constant misuse? Or are all these artists wrinklier than I imagined?
― geoffreyess, Monday, 24 October 2016 23:41 (nine years ago)
http://pitchfork.com/features/from-our-partners/9943-rip-it-to-shreds-a-history-of-punk-and-style/
gross
― marcos, Thursday, 27 October 2016 20:36 (nine years ago)
Produced by Pitchfork for Levi's®
where is chris ott has he talked about this yet
Rip It to Shreds: A History of Punk and StylePunk is more than just a sound, it’s a whole way of being, and rock’s new rebels preferred lived-in T-shirts and Levi’s.
― marcos, Thursday, 27 October 2016 20:37 (nine years ago)