or made genres "traditional" in the first place
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 19:32 (nine years ago)
inconceivable perspective that a white, male, 40-something artist brings to Borderline
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzW-GGKyey0
― salthigh, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 21:06 (nine years ago)
omg i've never heard that before
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 October 2016 21:21 (nine years ago)
feels like i'm going to lose my mind
― the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Tuesday, 11 October 2016 23:16 (nine years ago)
Pitchfork's first "native ad": http://pitchfork.com/features/from-our-partners/9955-10-years-of-apple-music-festival-a-playlist/The first one that's clearly marked anyway.
― Frozen CD, Friday, 14 October 2016 16:43 (nine years ago)
2nd apparently but this one was never linked to from anywhere http://pitchfork.com/features/from-our-partners/9885-french-singer-songwriter-lou-doillon-on-love-music-and-how-to-upset-your-boyfriend/
― Frozen CD, Friday, 14 October 2016 17:04 (nine years ago)
um where did pitchfork.com go
― laraaji p. henson (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 16 October 2016 17:36 (nine years ago)
"The domain pitchfork.com is no longer parked by GoDaddy."
― spastic heritage, Sunday, 16 October 2016 22:24 (nine years ago)
It's working fine over here.
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Sunday, 16 October 2016 22:26 (nine years ago)
I posted it to the other thread but I woke up to hate mail about a review so clearly it is not down for everyone
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Sunday, 16 October 2016 22:41 (nine years ago)
lol if it was your most recent one, I loved it (my bf is into her and I know nothing abt her so it was a v great intro and explanation)
― laraaji p. henson (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 17 October 2016 00:19 (nine years ago)
Even Mering’s less philosophical takes feel distinctly modern. “Be Free,” the song that sounds the most like a waltz
... rmde
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 16:55 (nine years ago)
It's a fucking awful review
― imago, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 17:01 (nine years ago)
I'm assuming the cover art images for the reviews have recently gotten huge on desktop for everyone else too? But they're not using high res images so it looks terrible.
― early rejecter, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 17:06 (nine years ago)
xp to self The way it wrangles in The Doors is completely senseless, it doesn't seem to understand what's going on musically at almost any point and it spends its second half trying to ascertain just how *kitsch* and *self-aware* the album is like this is pomo class 101 or something, with every piece of art reduced to how neatly it fits Pitchfork's ridiculous kitsch/self-aware house dichotomy and ignored on the grounds of, like, composition, musicianship, emotional intensity etc. I mean, a BNM is cool and all but come the crunch, you gave the review to the intern?
― imago, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 17:10 (nine years ago)
looks like they're starting to phase out track reviews? i see only 4 or 5 posted from this week so far, whereas there used to be 8 or 9 per day.
― billstevejim, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 18:56 (nine years ago)
Good. those track reviews were always so confusing and pointless. even more shoehorning and spinning than the album reviews
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 18:59 (nine years ago)
you do realize the review was written by a senior editor and not "the intern"
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Thursday, 20 October 2016 04:01 (nine years ago)
like, I don't care if the review was 1000 words, 999 of which were actually a digression to endorse Donald Trump, that'd still be unnecessary and insulting
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Thursday, 20 October 2016 04:17 (nine years ago)
that it was written by a senior editor makes the review even sadder
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 October 2016 15:39 (nine years ago)
hahaha god
― imago, Thursday, 20 October 2016 16:34 (nine years ago)
not as sad as failing to read someone's title, which is right on the fucking page)
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Thursday, 20 October 2016 16:40 (nine years ago)
er, missing parenthetical should be (but that'd require actually engaging in good faith)
fwiw I did read it. I also know what a waltz is.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 October 2016 16:50 (nine years ago)
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Thursday, October 20, 2016 12:40 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
oh come on
― flappy bird, Thursday, 20 October 2016 16:53 (nine years ago)
i take back the bit about it being written by an intern. i proffer instead the view that at least one of pitchfork's senior editors writes like an intern
― imago, Thursday, 20 October 2016 16:54 (nine years ago)
the review's emphasis on how self-aware the artist is is embarrassing, it's basically insulting to artists in general by implying that it's unusual for an artist to be aware of the tropes/styles/aesthetic frameworks they operate in
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 October 2016 16:56 (nine years ago)
xpost
lmao
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 20 October 2016 16:58 (nine years ago)
Katherine, how do you expect this argument to play out, honestly?
Louis: "This review is bad."
Katherine: "Um, it was written by a senior editor at Pitchfork Media."
Louis: "My mistake, it is in fact very good."
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 20 October 2016 17:03 (nine years ago)
That wasn't really her point though, as far as I can tell. Just that it wasn't actually written by an intern.
― Evan, Thursday, 20 October 2016 17:05 (nine years ago)
my point is "if you're going to publicly mock writers and/or their work, you should at least get your facts straight," and also "maybe don't refer to senior editors as 'the intern,' especially if they're women"
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Thursday, 20 October 2016 17:18 (nine years ago)
Um, a lot of his favorite art films pass the Bechdel test, remember?
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 20 October 2016 17:25 (nine years ago)
Whiney, how do you expect this argument to play out, honestly? :)
― Frederik B, Thursday, 20 October 2016 17:34 (nine years ago)
ideally without me reading the review or learning what "weyes blood" sounds like
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 20 October 2016 17:38 (nine years ago)
you'd like the record i feel. it's good
― flappy bird, Thursday, 20 October 2016 17:41 (nine years ago)
cool, you got anything i can read on it?
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:00 (nine years ago)
also, to clarify, katherine, yes I see how louis is using coded misogynist language, but i just think it's fun to pop in here and be a dick
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:01 (nine years ago)
referring to a female senior editor as 'the intern' strikes me as less of an antifeminist dickmove than halfheartedly giving one of the greatest albums of the 21st century so far an 8.3 and a trite let's-make-loads-of-shitty-comparisons review when had it been made by a man, say mark kozelek, who is maybe 1/60 as interesting as weyes blood, the review would have been fucking oceans of existential rapture. idk though it's all subjective isn't it
― imago, Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:07 (nine years ago)
xp whiney, you have finally crafted your platonic ideal post; please contact the tattoo parlor asap<3
― the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:08 (nine years ago)
referring to a female senior editor as 'the intern' strikes me as less of an antifeminist dickmove than halfheartedly giving one of the greatest albums of the 21st century so far an 8.3
https://67.media.tumblr.com/7e87f06fd6f49e15b90e24bb725b929d/tumblr_nwi2h92tYt1uj1zxso1_400.gif
― nomar, Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:34 (nine years ago)
Louis, heads up, your weird obsession with RYM ratings and Pitchfork scores is really more appropriate for /mu/ and Reddit and Fantano YouTube comments and other places where — COINCIDENCE?!?! — is also more acceptable to make antifeminist dickmoves.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:35 (nine years ago)
― imago, Thursday, October 20, 2016 11:07 AM (twenty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
nice bait and switch here by the big man
― *-* (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:36 (nine years ago)
those places are full of actual mouthbreathing morons though so I don't post there
i can see why it was a problematic statement and i feel a bit bad for saying it but i really was just commenting on the ineptitude of the writing. i didn't even consider the gender of the writer. perhaps i should have. sorry.
― imago, Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:37 (nine years ago)
intern lives matter
― The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:39 (nine years ago)
and fwiw i think that more music journalism should be by women, poc and other non-hegemonic identities, but that won't stop me from calling out shitty music journalism if it directly misconstrues the work of artists i like, no matter who wrote it
― imago, Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:41 (nine years ago)
and fwiw i think that more music journalism should be by women, poc and other non-hegemonic identities, but that won't stop me from calling women "the intern"
― imago, Thursday, October 20, 2016 2:41 PM (forty-one seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:42 (nine years ago)
you're a pest, whiney, a pest
― imago, Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:45 (nine years ago)
from here to internity
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:47 (nine years ago)
guys this is the thread for complaining about Pfork not rehashing pointless beefs
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:48 (nine years ago)
lol
― imago, Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:48 (nine years ago)