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Of course, the first time the words "stadium rock" were brought up in conversation regarding Green Day, I thought "eh?" ... but thinking about it, and listening to American Idiot again, I can see how the cavernous drums on tracks like 'Are We The Waiting' and 'Wake Me Up When September Ends' can code as "stadium rock" to some.
Funnily enough, I never heard anyone slag off or criticise either of the two multi-part suites on the record.
― pen pineapple apple pen (Turrican), Friday, 30 September 2016 19:03 (seven years ago) link
That you and I disagree completely on the merits of Warning is not a surprise to me in the least.
― pen pineapple apple pen (Turrican), Friday, 30 September 2016 19:04 (seven years ago) link
ime no one was mad about american idiot
pretty much everyone i knew who still had a modicum of affection for this band was rolling their damn eyes at billy joe super saiyan-ing himself into bono 2.0.
― a basset hound (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, 30 September 2016 19:05 (seven years ago) link
omg looool at "Fuck Time"
what's most amazing to me is that it's on the *second* of the three albums, like was that really not among the bottom-scraping material
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 30 September 2016 19:06 (seven years ago) link
pretty much everyone i knew who still had a modicum of affection for this band was rolling their damn eyes at billy joe super saiyan-ing himself into bono 2.0.― a basset hound (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, September 30, 2016 7:05 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― a basset hound (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, September 30, 2016 7:05 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Ha, yes! I remember there being a lot of this amongst many that I knew who were still bothered about Green Day at that point.
― pen pineapple apple pen (Turrican), Friday, 30 September 2016 19:09 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNq9gmY_Oz4
this was my favorite Insomniac = more Dookie track
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 30 September 2016 22:32 (seven years ago) link
'Fuck Time' is surely something that Tre Cool had a lot to do with? It feels like it's one of his.
― pen pineapple apple pen (Turrican), Friday, 30 September 2016 22:35 (seven years ago) link
Insomniac was everything I wanted as an 8 year old Green Day fan. My sister wrote new lyrics for "Walking Contradiction" about being stuck in traffic, it was pretty great.
― geoffreyess, Friday, 30 September 2016 22:46 (seven years ago) link
holy shit @ the "do it again" / "walking contradiction" rip. that's fucking insane
― flappy bird, Saturday, 1 October 2016 00:23 (seven years ago) link
I remember, despite not being a huge Green Day fan at the time (tho I like them now), being anxious to hear the new Green Day single around the time Insomniac came out, because they kept playing short snippets of it during MTV commercials for about a week, and those clips sounded massive.
woke up early for high school one morning and flipped on MTV and they were showing the video (think it had debuted the night before and they were replaying it), and I dug it. my brother was a Green Day fan, but was asleep as he was in middle school at the time, so I left him a note - "Hey bro - new Green Day video is out, Geek Stink Breath!".
my mom called me later and said my brother was upset because he thought i was insulting him.
― Neanderthal, Saturday, 1 October 2016 03:26 (seven years ago) link
So
― Immediate Follower (NA), Monday, 12 December 2016 03:56 (seven years ago) link
Has this been discussed
https://www.uphe.com/movies/ordinary world
Ugh
https://www.uphe.com/movies/ordinary-world?utm_source=m.facebook.com&utm_medium=referral
― Immediate Follower (NA), Monday, 12 December 2016 03:57 (seven years ago) link
would've seen it if it ever came here. definitely dig billie joe going into acting, makes sense
― flappy bird, Monday, 12 December 2016 04:06 (seven years ago) link
D
― salthigh, Monday, 12 December 2016 04:24 (seven years ago) link
Billie Joe Armstrong leads an all-star cast in the candid and heartwarming comedy, Ordinary World. Perry (Armstrong), a former punk rocker, is ten years into his band's "indefinite hiatus" and is struggling with his adjustment to the real world, which includes working in his family's hardware store. When Perry's hotshot attorney wife (Selma Blair) and precocious young daughter forget his 40th birthday, his brother (Chris Messina) takes pity and gives him the money to throw a huge rockstar blowout in a fancy New York hotel. At the party, Perry's punk past clashes hilariously with his grown-up reality as he encounters crazy former bandmates, including best pal Gary (Fred Armisen), and an old-flame-turned-manager (Judy Greer), who offers him a chance to revive his stalled career, all in one outrageous day!
lol this sounds/looks even worse than that Strummer movie
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 12 December 2016 04:24 (seven years ago) link
people getting upset because they felt that Insomniac was just "more Dookie"
it was the 90s, every artist was supposed to mature and throw on some cellos or discover accordions or ondes martenots or whatever on album 3 or 4
― j., Monday, 12 December 2016 19:32 (seven years ago) link
Oh, the cleverness.
Bump some #FatherOfAll to get going pic.twitter.com/erl8BTFCAT— Green Day (@GreenDay) February 7, 2020
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 February 2020 20:01 (four years ago) link
(WE DID USE BUTCH WALKER THOUGH)
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 7 February 2020 20:02 (four years ago) link
album's at least a little livelier than their last few exhausted directionless things
I had to.
_Uncut Rock_ (2020, dir. the Safdies, starring Adam Sandler as Billie Joe.)— Ned Raggett (@NedRaggett) February 7, 2020
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 February 2020 20:08 (four years ago) link
not going to lie, i kinda liked their uno/dos/tre chaos.yeah, it ended in a full on meltdown, but there are some decent tunes on the trilogy.
― mark e, Friday, 7 February 2020 20:11 (four years ago) link
This new album is so wildly awful that it give me secondhand embarrassment but it's also hilarious and somehow better than their last several records?
― bunny slopes, Friday, 7 February 2020 23:00 (four years ago) link
it doesn't SOUND like any kerplunk-onward members are still left in the band and yet
― j., Saturday, 8 February 2020 03:54 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18EmOXEsmlw
honestly they should just go full rockabilly
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 08:28 (four years ago) link
Sounds like Weezer if Weezer was influenced by Havana 3am. Which is to say ... fine.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 13:10 (four years ago) link
Their music is very real, and you can tell it all comes from them, which is what sets it apart from what other pop acts are doing.
― dad genes (morrisp), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 14:55 (four years ago) link
― mark e, Friday, February 7, 2020 1:11 PM (four days ago) bookmarkflaglink
putting myself through the trilogy a second time is one of the most depressing things i've ever done for the sake of a review. even the good songs sound empty
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 15:25 (four years ago) link
21st century breakdown is the best green day album though
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 15:26 (four years ago) link
this ad campaign has definitely done its job.
― doorstep jetski (dog latin), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 15:26 (four years ago) link
...in that it's made me listen to it. wow is this really Green Day? I mean, it's not good but I've got to applaud them for not sounding anything like their usual selves
― doorstep jetski (dog latin), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 15:29 (four years ago) link
wait... what
― doorstep jetski (dog latin), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 15:30 (four years ago) link
why is the second track the same song as the first one? Is this some In A Silent Way shit?
― doorstep jetski (dog latin), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 15:31 (four years ago) link
It’s because it’s 100% Pure Uncut Rock. No trap beats. No Swedish songwriters. Do you want Realness, or do you want fake pop crap?
― dad genes (morrisp), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 15:32 (four years ago) link
Okay I'm at work and I'm 5 songs in and... Okay, the ad campaign was ridiculous, and the change of direction is ridiculous and the whole thing is daft, but... Am I kind of secretly enjoying this? Much more than whatever I heard on that awful trilogy anyway...
― doorstep jetski (dog latin), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 15:39 (four years ago) link
i've also been having fun revisiting nimrod instead of listening to the new record. "redundant" is a great power-pop song
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 15:40 (four years ago) link
new record better than the trilogy otm
I always listened to Nimrod at arm's length. You know that point in your teenage years where you're painfully aware that your favourite band might have sold out because suddenly everyone's singing along to the songs? (not that people didn't know all the words to Dookie, but the difference between being a 14 y/o listening to Dookie and 17 y/o listening to Nimrod was significant)
― doorstep jetski (dog latin), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 15:45 (four years ago) link
but like you Brad, I'm going back to Kerplunk and the stretch from 80 to No One Knows is a serious madeleine moment
― doorstep jetski (dog latin), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 15:48 (four years ago) link
He would also state that the lyrics are about "the life AND death of the party" and the "lifestyle of not giving a fuck."
this album sounds too intense for me, might steer clear
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 15:49 (four years ago) link
i've always felt nimrod was a little uneven with its mix of genre shuffling and the classic green day sound you know and love, but "uptight" gets it just right by being both. maybe their best song
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 15:51 (four years ago) link
insomniac: 32 minutes, not one of them wasted
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 17:30 (four years ago) link
this was my gateway band to rock music that wasn't the beatles or beach boys and every time i revisit insomniac i remember 1) being confused out that it came out so quickly after dookie, like was this a real new record? 2) having that dubiousness sort of confirmed by the runtime even though i bought the cassette and didn't actually know how long it was but the songs really whipped by. "no pride" was my favorite at the time 3) thinking "geek stink breath" was such an ugly, gnarly song yet so so catchy and every time i turned on mtv i hoped to catch the (gnarly, ugly) video
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 17:37 (four years ago) link
insomniac confused me a bit too. not sure what the release schedule was in the UK but I was still quite young at the time so the gap between the two albums didn't feel that short
― doorstep jetski (dog latin), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 17:48 (four years ago) link
i think i ended up getting dookie for christmas '94 (in my stocking, which now that i think about it, is a very funny joke by my parents), so by the time october '95 rolled around i was like "fuck i gotta buy another green day album now???"
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 17:50 (four years ago) link
I had a few friends totally into that Gilman Street scene. One of them had not one, not two, but three Green Day tattoos ... before "Dookie" came out. That's kinda like getting a Raffi tattoo right before he released "Singable Songs for the Very Young."
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 17:59 (four years ago) link
Anyway, I was never into them, but I did see them play a small club show right when "American Idiot" came out. They played the whole album and introduced the expanded band, then played a long greatest hits set, and I thought, huh, I guess they do have a lot of great hits. It was a really good show.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 18:00 (four years ago) link
One of them had not one, not two, but three Green Day tattoos ... before "Dookie" came out.
lol i think this is so rad
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 18:05 (four years ago) link
I sort of feel like this is the most effortless Green Day since Warning, I kinda dig it if I'm being honest.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 19:00 (four years ago) link
xpost lol though I suppose there was good reason to believe that Green Day's ceiling was being as big as Op Ivy
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 19:09 (four years ago) link