#trenchant
― the tightening is plateauing (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 26 September 2016 16:40 (seven years ago) link
if Brooks and George Will are explaining him, I'm happy he remains misunderstood *plays Tunnel of Love*
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 September 2016 16:41 (seven years ago) link
LBI, that's kinda what I mean. Consevatives love Bruce Springsteen = It's music for conservatives. It's not enough for me to say 'but they misunderstand'. The interesting part is why he is so 'easily misunderstood', which to my mind is the same thing as saying that he's politically confused, vague and weak. Which would of course be something conservatives would love in working class heroes.
― Frederik B, Monday, 26 September 2016 17:01 (seven years ago) link
marco rubio loves NWA and public enemy
conservatives love all kinds of music, a lot of ppl don't really give a shit they don't necessarily spend their lives connecting the music they listen and their own beliefs. i have a friend who's the president of a hydraulics company he inherited from his father and he loves fugazi the most.
― Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 26 September 2016 17:09 (seven years ago) link
do you guys know actual american republicans that like Springsteen beyond playing singles or is this some thing where any american patriotic or nostalgic tendency sounds conservative
― dr. mercurio arboria (mh π), Monday, 26 September 2016 17:12 (seven years ago) link
chris christie loves bruce springsteen = it's music for chris christie
― mookieproof, Monday, 26 September 2016 17:14 (seven years ago) link
41 Shots, for example. Try go to it's genius-page and see the discussion of the text. Is the 'American Skin' meant to say that all Americans live in danger of gun violence, or is it about racism? And the second verse, where a mother instructs her child what to do if the police comes by, is that about how Amadou allegedly failed to do as he was told, or is it about how African-American families have to have this conversation over and over and over? Well, it's kinda hard to say, because it's deliberately vague, it can be read both ways. But, for instance, perhaps if the names of the mother and son in the second verse wasn't Lena and Charles, it would be clearer. Yet over and over in his music, Springsteen hedges his bets when he goes political, always moves in the direction of the general.
― Frederik B, Monday, 26 September 2016 17:14 (seven years ago) link
chris christie loves new jersey, you see
haha just kidding no one loves new jersey
― dr. mercurio arboria (mh π), Monday, 26 September 2016 17:15 (seven years ago) link
Try go to it's genius-page and see the discussion of the text.
finally we're back to the thread title
― dr. mercurio arboria (mh π), Monday, 26 September 2016 17:16 (seven years ago) link
it's weird how often the T-Bone manifesto is getting referenced as some sort of piece of great thinking
― thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 21:19 (seven years ago) link
NYT just offered it to me as "the single best critique on the modern technological society and its effect on culture and politics"uh?
― thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 21:20 (seven years ago) link
Nice of Frederik to put his own worst music writing directly in this thread rather than waiting for someone to find it
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 23:05 (seven years ago) link
Lol
― flopson, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 23:07 (seven years ago) link
omg lol
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 23:08 (seven years ago) link
*farts*
― savvinesslessness (map), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 23:11 (seven years ago) link
it bothers me everytime Born in the USA is presented as this liberal song getting horribly misread, when it contains such a heap of jingoistic, patriotic sentiment in the choruses, and music throughout. Springsteen wrote a song that didn't bring across the sentiment he aimed for, don't blame Reagan for figuring that out.
β Frederik B, Monday, September 26, 2016 3:31 PM (yesterday)
this is fucking ridiculous
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 23:14 (seven years ago) link
one might guess the writer was not born in the united states
― dr. mercurio arboria (mh π), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 23:39 (seven years ago) link
Bruce Springsteen is a conservative because he depicts the decline of the working class as a political and economic force which technically happened but saying anything in the past was better than the present is a tacit endorsement of racism
Is I think his argument here it's kind of unclear
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 23:49 (seven years ago) link
no it is because he likes america as an abstract idea and not just a place you can live
― dr. mercurio arboria (mh π), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 00:58 (seven years ago) link
repeating the words born in the usa over and over again is jingoistic and patriotic cuz it's jingoistic and patriotic to have been born in the usa
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 01:01 (seven years ago) link
bruce springsteen is 67 years old and plays four-hour shows featuring guitars; he is inherently conservative
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 01:04 (seven years ago) link
It's possible to think Springsteen didn't quite know what he'd unleashed when he repeated the title over Weinberg's drums and that synth fanfare and that Frederik is bananas.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 01:08 (seven years ago) link
mookie has a point
― dr. mercurio arboria (mh π), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 01:36 (seven years ago) link
bruce springsteen is 67 years old and plays four-hour shows featuring guitars
and his primary guitar dates to the eisenhower era
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 01:48 (seven years ago) link
how much do you have to wilfully misread something before it no longer qualifies as "reading"
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 04:16 (seven years ago) link
<3 u fact checking cuz
perhaps, as a bo diddley beat aficionado, you'd be interested in Songs where a musician starts "ernie-ing"/summoning up the great musical god Ernie.
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 04:34 (seven years ago) link
hang on i thought when it came to US politics Fred was all about stuff that was politically vague, confused and fundamentally conservative?
― i bill everything i duck (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 05:54 (seven years ago) link
didn't read, don't know about the author
6 BANDS NAMED AFTER VAGINAS YOU'LL BE TOTALLY INTOTHIS WAY FOR PUNS.
BRENNA EHRLICH08/07/2015
― goole, Friday, 7 October 2016 19:40 (seven years ago) link
i never felt like there was anything to misinterpret about born in the u.s.a. americans love to feel sorry for themselves. that's why it's called country music. it's a very patriotic song. trump could easily use it as an anthem. the anti-government message works well with his crowd. the lyrics are terrible though. "summertime blues" said it better and said it quicker.
― scott seward, Friday, 7 October 2016 20:31 (seven years ago) link
it really sounds like the prelude to a Falling Down/Taxi Diver style tantrum... or something
― brimstead, Friday, 7 October 2016 22:27 (seven years ago) link
(BitUSA)
― brimstead, Friday, 7 October 2016 22:28 (seven years ago) link
this has gotta be on purpose and bear with it but
https://festivalpeak.com/an-open-letter-to-drake-dj-khaled-and-the-rap-world-84cd4940deb4#.qslc42y8e
― rip my mensches (s.clover), Thursday, 13 October 2016 02:22 (seven years ago) link
or maybe its not on purpose in the way the author thinks. anyway, there's a point, and you'll know when you see it, where something unexpected happens.
― rip my mensches (s.clover), Thursday, 13 October 2016 02:28 (seven years ago) link
clickbait
― niels, Thursday, 13 October 2016 05:30 (seven years ago) link
In fact, there are dozens of songs that people think were recorded by The Beatles that were written and recorded by other groups, that were hits during this time.
These were actually all recorded by Weird Al.
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Thursday, 13 October 2016 13:49 (seven years ago) link
herman's hermits iirc
― dr. mercurio arboria (mh π), Thursday, 13 October 2016 14:19 (seven years ago) link
I often wish there was a way to just hard reset my discover weekly data, particularly when it drives itself into a rut like this one
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Thursday, 13 October 2016 22:20 (seven years ago) link
i am requesting your fave "Dylan shouldn't / should have won that Nobel" pieces for this thread
― the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Friday, 14 October 2016 03:56 (seven years ago) link
they'll all be dynamite
― mh π, Friday, 14 October 2016 03:57 (seven years ago) link
When I wrote this :
I was more or less thinking of this song :
https://youtu.be/MWZrIXS62Qo
Lies by The Knickerbockers, which almost everyone would swear is The Beatles. Of course, The Dave Clark Five also works, as do some of Herman's Hermits songs, as dr. mercurio arboria (mh π) mentioned.
― AMovieADayKeeps, Friday, 14 October 2016 07:48 (seven years ago) link
In fact, there are dozens of songs that people think were recorded by The Beatles that were written and recorded by other groups, that were hits during this time. Think how similar most boy bands have been since New Kids On The Block, or how for many of us we canβt remember if a particular song was done by *NSYNC or The Backstreet Boys.
I think 9/10 people in Denmark could name somewhere between 5 and 20 Beatles songs easily, and even though "Lies" is a great Beatles-knockoff, noone would bring it up - just like they might mistake A Public Execution for a Dylan track, but hardly anyone knows it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqmzLgoWl3w
Wasn't around when NKOTB was hot, but I'd never mistake an *NSYNC song for BSB (and BSB >>>>>> *NSYNC)
Also, I think you're misrepresenting early Beatles to make your point - those first albums r000l!
Same goes for BeyoncΓ©, describing "Crazy in Love" as a catchy little pop song with her husband Jay-Z making an appearance on it - well... it's crazy talk imo
Artistic development isn't necessarily progressive in a sense where an artist gets "better and better", producing "more complicated material" - they just do something new / different, which is also cool
And finally, penis size as trope is not over and probably never will be
Sorry for all these banalities
― niels, Friday, 14 October 2016 08:08 (seven years ago) link
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― LUMBAGO MUJO, Friday, 14 October 2016 08:31 (seven years ago) link
Worst piece of weed writing ever.
― hardcore dilettante, Friday, 14 October 2016 11:46 (seven years ago) link
20 years ago this month, I was getting ready for work while my brother in law was plastering the walls. I absent-mindedly picked up the joint he was smoking instead of my roll up out of the ashtray and had one drag before realising my mistake. I had to go immediately back to bed. And I had to plead with him to phone in sick for me. He told me it was white rhino. Remarkably horrible stuff.
― Doran, Friday, 14 October 2016 13:15 (seven years ago) link
Not really fair, but this is from a press release touting Alan White's return to Yes:
The 6-date trek, beginning November 21 in Tokyo, will feature YES performing the 1973 album YESSONGS, the band's first live album, as well as sides one and four of 1973's double album TALES FROM TOPOGRAPHIC OCEANS, which received rave reviews throughout their 28-date U.S. outing this summer. Of the Tales portion of the show, Chicago Tribune Community Contributor Raymond Britt raved, "The pieces were nothing short of a tour de force of musical ambition, complexity and remarkable synchronicity. It sounded outstanding." Britt also added, "This version of Yes seems to play at a higher level, a more powerful level, like they've been together a decade or more. These guys are on no nostalgia tour. They play it like they mean business, with little intention of slowing down" (8/31/16). For their upcoming Japan tour, YES will perform at the Tokyo Orchard Hall on November 21, 22, 28 and 29, the Osaka Orix Theater on November 24 and Zepp Nagoya on November 25.
Yes, it cites "Chicago Tribune Community Contributor Raymond Britt." Pretty low when a press release quotes an internet commentator.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 15 October 2016 18:30 (seven years ago) link
says more about the complete lack of support for acts older than 10 years imo
(I don't even particularly like Yes)
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Sunday, 16 October 2016 06:37 (seven years ago) link
No one posted the hip hop golden age article huh
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Sunday, 16 October 2016 06:40 (seven years ago) link
Would require reading past the headline
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 16 October 2016 13:09 (seven years ago) link
here's the singer from landfill indie band The Enemy blogging about why the group are splitting up: https://tomclarkecoventry.wordpress.com/2016/10/16/pop-has-eaten-itself/
even allowing for what his music led me to expect he is a very very very bad writer
― The Codling Of The London Suede (Legal Warning Across The Atlantic) (DJ Mencap), Monday, 17 October 2016 11:30 (seven years ago) link
"But the song I want to tell you about most is βRainbow.β If it ever emerges from private listenings, it will be your favorite Kesha song. Itβs big and sweeping, and you can hear every instrument that Ben Folds and his associates played β it does recall a Beach Boys vibe, just as she wanted it to. And as Folds said, the way she sings the song is so rich and so real that it jerks you out of your expectation of a pop song. βI found a rainbow, rainbow, baby,β she sings. βTrust me, I know life is scary, but just put those colors on, girl, and come and paint the world with me tonight.β In the final section, her voice becomes stronger and more strained, and the effect is devastating. I asked to hear it three more times."
― maura, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 17:38 (seven years ago) link