pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

I guess what bugs me about your post is that you seem to be pitting "political/feminist/race article" and "hip hop, pop, race articles" against what you call "nice articles," suggesting that you think their coverage of political issues is obscuring something more important or interesting.

articles specifically about race

this is the thing, it looks disingenuous

race and gender politics is clearly very important in the world. but i never went to pitchfork to get my daily dose of politics

i mean, every time a musician talks about politics it's gonna be crap

it looks like p4k are piggybacking on a larger trend to stay relevant but are still without substance

also, so much stranger things content. so much. (perhaps it has been mentioned before, but I ain't opening those 8k messages)

Musicians are talking quite a lot about politics in uncrap ways these days. Only a spectacularly reactionary music site would not write news articles about this.

This is probably mentioned upthread, but since Conde Nast took over there are also video ads in the middle of content, and things like "Like us on Facebook" pop-ups you have to exit before reading the site. In addition to content like "Watch the 'Stranger Things' kids perform 'Uptown Funk'!" that probably wouldn't have appeared 1-2 years ago.

lol dont u have an adblocker

it also feels like there's more reviews and articles on experimental music. The site is obviously moving away from indie rock, and it feels like they're filling some of that gap with increasing coverage of "avant-garde" stuff, particularly electronic stuff. But they're also reviewing more than one jazz album a week, when for a decade they followed a strict one-per-month policy.

i don't give a shit about internet ads, it wasn't a complaint

it also feels like there's more reviews and articles on experimental music.

they literally got rid of the out door

good point. I just scanned through the site and i think my feeling about the experimental thing is actually wrong. The jazz thing is real, but it's very possibly just them riding a trend and will die down in like a year or two

You can thank Kamasi Washington for the Jazz trend, tho idk how long it'll last

Kamasi ime is more jam band with funk elements than jazz but ymmv

The fact that Jazz is a genre filter on the site, and that Seth Colter-Walls is a contributor, is encouraging.

Kamasi ime is more jam band with funk elements than jazz but ymmv

― thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Tuesday, September 20, 2016 10:20 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol what

Kamasi ime is more jam band with funk elements than jazz but ymmv

― thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Tuesday, September 20, 2016 10:20 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol what

Yeah, I tried typing a response to that last night but my eyes kept rolling back in my skull.

Kamasi Washington's next album is a covers album of String Cheese Incident songs with Graham Central Station as his backing band

Bitches Bonabroo

it also feels like there's more reviews and articles on experimental music. The site is obviously moving away from indie rock, and it feels like they're filling some of that gap with increasing coverage of "avant-garde" stuff, particularly electronic stuff.

― intheblanks, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 01:52 (nineteen hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

almost excelsiored this tbrr

does anyone read the wire anymore btw

they do if they're in it that month

heyooooooo

braggin' 2016

seriously though pitchfork do not give one shit about avant-garde music

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/22158-four-meditations-sound-geometries/

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/21535-3-compositions-eemhm-2011trillium-j-the-non-unconfessionables-no-380quintet-tristano-2014/

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/22345-arvo-part-the-deers-cry/

...comparatively speaking, and they definitely don't give a shit about new experimental artists

Those are all decades-confirmed masters

But, they just BNMed Sunergy (for example)

and Anna Meredith

well, they should give more of a shit, cf that clipping review mentioned upthread where they 5.3 hip-hop history

how much of a shit any publication gives about areas of music is usually borne out by their eoy lists rather than their intermittent concessions

anyway whatever i fight this erry day and yall bored

isn't covering clipping at all the definition of "giving a shit"

yeah fine

still think they only really cover shit if it's fashionable and they infinitesimally rarely let an underdog at the throne. kanye has a 100000x bigger chance of a 9.something than any bandcamp mc regardless of the respective quality of their outputs (not saying kanye is bad, even)

they only really cover shit if it's fashionable

this is a tautology or something i think /dumb_person

or maybe a misunderstanding of how entertainment media works

i remember the days when pitchfork would fearlessly drop 9+ on a clearlake album

they literally did that

oh i see

just forget i posted

me too

Louis is about five posts away from calling them "cuckfork"

did you literally compare me to a MRA redditor

goddamn i'm easy to rile

lol what
Yeah, I tried typing a response to that last night but my eyes kept rolling back in my skull.

does anyone read the wire anymore btw

― jason waterfalls (gbx), Wednesday, September 21, 2016 4:18 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they do if they're in it that month

― Dominique, Wednesday, September 21, 2016 4:20 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

heyooooooo

― jason waterfalls (gbx), Wednesday, September 21, 2016 4:21 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ouch

I read it every month, but I write for it, so.

At this point, I skim it in the bookstores, but feel guilty about that. Used to buy it almost monthly, but can't justify doing so given that I have subscriptions to several magazines that I never get around to finishing.

if the stuff that eg Phillip Sherburne and Andy Beta are reviewing is trendy then I must be particularly out of the loop these days

anyway it comes back to the actual writing - they might not award a BNM or even a top-of-page review to experimental stuff but if I read it and I think "hey this sounds like its for me and that 7.7 or whatever suggests it isn't awful then maybe I'll give it some time of my own and see if I form a better opinion of it"