Can we talk about early-mid70s West Coast post-psych/pop/rock/folk-rock/country-rock?

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got this recently, it's really good:

http://users.skynet.be/fa388247/windmills.jpg

macarooni (omar little), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 17:33 (seventeen years ago)

The Darrow reissue is on vinyl too, but it is $$$.

Thus Sang Freud, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 18:31 (seventeen years ago)

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/7166/32447762.jpg

has Morning been mentioned yet on this thread? it's sort of a side project of Jay Donnellan, who played guitar with Love's second lineup, and Jim Hobson, who played keyboards on Love's Out Here album. I've only listened to the s/t album a couple times, but at its best the band comes across as a very drowsy CSNY, or a hipster honky-tonk act along the lines of the Flying Burrito Bros. (circa their third album) & some of Chris Hillman's other extra-Byrds projects. afaik the s/t (and the follow-up, which I haven't heard) has never been reissued, and it seems to only exist on a couple obscuro mp3 blogs.

blue fescue (unregistered), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 18:51 (seventeen years ago)

i'd like to apologize to the new riders of the purple sage for not mentioning them more on this thread. or maybe they are too well known and obvious? listening to Gypsy Cowboy just now...man, is there a song as cool as "death and destruction"?

i like the two rick roberts albums i have. they are good and he also had a hand - like ned doheney - in making other cali people's records cool.

scott seward, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 19:25 (seventeen years ago)

and speaking of rick roberts, other than the burrito brothers he's best known for starting firefall. but i don't think i own any firefall albums. you'd think i would have, like, five of them.

scott seward, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 19:34 (seventeen years ago)

i bid on that Morning album once on ebay. got outbid.

scott seward, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 19:37 (seventeen years ago)

i kinda wish there were some japanese people on this thread so i could talk to them about david riordan albums and ask them what the deal is with that warehouse sound company & friends album that he had a hand in.

no offense to the people already here of course you are all lovely...

scott seward, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 20:35 (seventeen years ago)

oh but i do like some of the dfa/lcd stuff. and that is rocker dance, no? mostly i fell in love with the yeah single. that thing was just undeniable.

scott seward, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 20:37 (seventeen years ago)

whoops wrong thread.

scott seward, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 20:39 (seventeen years ago)

Any love for Chip Taylor's Last Chance? does it even belong here? Very cool country-rock record......

sonofstan, Friday, 24 April 2009 16:51 (seventeen years ago)

Christgau on Frummox:

FRUMMOX: Here to There (Probe) Pretentious cowboy music? Yes, pretentious cowboy music. C MINUS

This record is fine imho and would probably be enjoyed by many of you.

ian, Tuesday, 28 April 2009 18:03 (seventeen years ago)

i think only christgau stans, all 53 of them, should ever listen to what that dude says

~*GAME 2 SNYPA*~ (omar little), Tuesday, 28 April 2009 18:05 (seventeen years ago)

christgau is my reliable bizarro critic. kinda like david denby. if they don't like it, chances are, i will. and if they really like it, i stay away.

scott seward, Tuesday, 28 April 2009 18:05 (seventeen years ago)

the dude pioneered the negative snark style of writing about music & even shit he likes he's gotta zing. it's pretty weak and cowardly imo. i don't want to turn this thread into talking about that, though.

~*GAME 2 SNYPA*~ (omar little), Tuesday, 28 April 2009 18:09 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, let's continue to talk about entertaining stoner cowboys:

http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/itsaboutmusic/early-poco.jpg

The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 28 April 2009 18:14 (seventeen years ago)

yer right, proceed.

scott seward, Tuesday, 28 April 2009 18:18 (seventeen years ago)

i found the tape mix i made for this thread! now i just gotta upload it to da web.

scott seward, Tuesday, 28 April 2009 18:19 (seventeen years ago)

(x-post)

And like how I finally broke down and bought that Illinois Speed Press album (the first one) that had been taunting me for months on end at the used record store, then filed it and forgot about it cause I was tired when I got home that day, eventually getting around to playing it and after all that not really feeling it at all.

The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 28 April 2009 18:20 (seventeen years ago)

yes! i was just going to ask about that mix!

i am the eye in the sky... (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 28 April 2009 18:21 (seventeen years ago)

hell yes, scott, can't wait

~*GAME 2 SNYPA*~ (omar little), Tuesday, 28 April 2009 18:22 (seventeen years ago)

i really like that first illinois speed press album. it's got a little bit of everything on it.

scott seward, Tuesday, 28 April 2009 18:24 (seventeen years ago)

I probably need to give it another spin. It just wasn't what I was expecting (byrds/poco/nesmith-style country rock). I did like the guitar playing.

The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 28 April 2009 18:27 (seventeen years ago)

it's got more of a hard-rocking/psychhippie vibe, i always thought. but that shouldn't scare you. you like that stuff.

scott seward, Tuesday, 28 April 2009 18:30 (seventeen years ago)

xpost I've got several Chip Taylor solo albums I haven't played yet, but I *really really* like the sets he's done on public radio shows with Carrie Rodriquez, mostly cos I *really really* like her (with him haven't heard her solo) They even do this hilarious song about how to seduce a country-folkie etc person with red wine 'n' Prine (actually it sounds like something Lee Hazlewood might've done, Chip's growling an all)

dow, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 00:45 (seventeen years ago)

Also, don't know how this might sound on CD, but the LP of Buffalo Springfield's Last Time Around really suits this thread (even or especially because they were pretty much broken up then and, but with songs and orchestration and session pickers etc as links x conduits x barriers, like some of the later Beatles albums, but with more upfront/consistent use of the rueful reverie vibe, it's good unified variety and you can tell they've been through a lot but are still young)

dow, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 00:51 (seventeen years ago)

two weeks pass...

electric:

acoustic:

scott seward, Saturday, 16 May 2009 18:09 (seventeen years ago)

Just heard 'Euphoria - A Gift From Euphoria' for the first time tonight and thought of this thread. Dang good record and I'm going to have to find out the story on these guys - too good for just one record.

BlackIronPrison, Saturday, 30 May 2009 04:26 (seventeen years ago)

ha, i think the downloading thread is kinda bs but i do think you could say that no way in hell would something like a gift from euphoria be made today as it's obvious they threw a shit load of money to record that (london, nashville & la!)
amazing album that never gets old to my ears

L. Ron Huppert (velko), Saturday, 30 May 2009 04:36 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

bought this michael murphey album from a woman selling lps near a farmer's market here in l.a., $2:

http://images.uulyrics.com/cover/m/michael-martin-murphey/album-geronimos-cadillac.jpg

he's from texas, moved to l.a., recorded this album shortly after moving back to texas. folky, a little gospel-style in places, has this keening, cracking voice like a lower-register neil young. not bad at all.

enbba champions (omar little), Sunday, 5 July 2009 06:08 (sixteen years ago)

Another great Texas-LA-Texas guy:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/419Z51XFTQL._SS500_.jpg

The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 5 July 2009 21:21 (sixteen years ago)

Some early '70s albums I've been listening to lately that come close to this category, if not exactly fit into it:

John Hartford- Aereo-Plain
Mickey Newbury- Frisco Mabel Joy
Tom T. Hall- In Search for a Song, I Witness Life
Commander Cody- Lost in the Ozone
Paul Siebel- Jack Knife Gypsy, Woodsmoke & Oranges
New Riders of the Purple Sage- ST
Graham Nash- Songs for Beginners
Link Wray- ST (1971)
Waylon Jennings- The Taker, Singer of Sad Songs
Ian Matthews- If You Saw Thro My Eyes
Elvis Presley- Elvis Country (I'm 10,000 Years Old)
Bill Fay- Time of the Last Persecution
Wizz Jones- The Legendary Me
Johnny Cash- Hello, I'm Johnny Cash
JD Souther- Black Rose
Rodriguez- Cold Fact

Townes Van Zandt- Delta Momma Blues
Merle Haggard- Hag/Someday We'll Look Back

President Keyes, Sunday, 5 July 2009 22:43 (sixteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

This thread has provided my with much digging and surprisingly I have found much on this thread for cheap. The most recent find was by Vernon Wray called Wasted and a band called Cherokee.

Jacob Sanders, Friday, 24 July 2009 21:15 (sixteen years ago)

I should thank Stormy Davis for mentioning William Truckaway. Breakaway is now one of my favourite record.

Jamie Harley (Snowballing), Friday, 24 July 2009 21:25 (sixteen years ago)

I tried to look up thread for William Truckaway, who is he?

Jacob Sanders, Friday, 24 July 2009 21:31 (sixteen years ago)

Here's what Stormy Davis wrote :

so have we really not talked about William Truckaway yet on this thread ?? His album has been in heavy rotation for the last year or so since I picked it up (thanks Neil.) It's fucking amazing , mebbe not so much country, but certainly some sort of 'post-psych' poppy folk, or maybe poppy 'post-folk' 70s Psych ,,, not sure .. but the album ("Breakaway") completely rules. Why is NMH the only champ at this point?? but as always he picks a winner

Don't know more about more about him but I can confirm it is indeed fucking fantastic.

Jamie Harley (Snowballing), Friday, 24 July 2009 21:49 (sixteen years ago)

doesn't fit the time frame of this thread, came out in '69 i think, but all country byrds fans need to hear don preston & the south's hot air through a straw. been digging it all week.

http://www.platterpus.com/images/76120.jpg

scott seward, Friday, 24 July 2009 22:10 (sixteen years ago)

I don't think I've seen this news mentioned on ilm, but country-rock lost a real pioneer when John "Marmaduke" Dawson of the New Riders died on 07.21: http://www.examiner.com/x-15209-The-Dead-Examiner~y2009m7d24-New-Riders-John-Dawson-dies-at-64

I wrote a tribute for the Rhapsody Blog:
http://blog.rhapsody.com/2009/07/the-last-lonely-eagle-john-marmaduke-dawson.html

QuantumNoise, Saturday, 25 July 2009 00:18 (sixteen years ago)

YouTube doesn't have much New Riders footage when Dawson is leading the band, but there's this:

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QuantumNoise, Saturday, 25 July 2009 00:26 (sixteen years ago)

Ah, fuck. I never get that right.

QuantumNoise, Saturday, 25 July 2009 00:27 (sixteen years ago)

I just uploaded a pack of this kind of music to share with a friend and the self titled New Riders lp was one of them. I found it cheap in east Texas, and an amazing record. I can send someone the link if anyone's interested. That is a sad loss.

Jacob Sanders, Saturday, 25 July 2009 00:43 (sixteen years ago)

yeah so William Truckaway was apparently a member of Sopwith Camel (?!) .. i know absolutely nothing about them other than the Peanuts reference. I guess they were west-coast SF AM-pop? If they had a hit, I don't know it. Skot might know more. Sopwith Camel is a cipher to me. I bought the Truckaway album becuz Neil Michael Hagerty -- one of my fave musicians in the history of planet Earth -- covered a Truckaway tune on one of those three "limited edition" vinyl-only LPs that the Howling Hex put out.

but. yeah. 'Breakaway'. Such a sweet, sweet, album! I am so glad that you found it Jamie, and super psyched that you agree with my enthusiasm! it's so nice! and roomy. it feel like, bedroomy and quiet, but also 70s-dreamy style and so forth. yeah, fantastic record!

Stormy Davis, Saturday, 25 July 2009 05:30 (sixteen years ago)

sopwith camel had a hit (minor?) with the song "hello hello" which was in that old-timey style that the psych bands used to love to play around with (there's a thread about that). the song was covered by claudine longet, who was sort of born to sing that kind of twee, cutesy stuff

velko, Saturday, 25 July 2009 05:49 (sixteen years ago)

lol tim mentions hello hello in the first post on this thread
Good Trip or Bummer? U.S. Psych Bands Doing "Old-Timey" Songs on Their Albums

velko, Saturday, 25 July 2009 05:51 (sixteen years ago)

lol
Let's be clear: we're talkin' hardcore gay nineties, bicycle-built-for-two music here.
-- Tim Ellison

velko, Saturday, 25 July 2009 05:55 (sixteen years ago)

Does this song qualify as early-mid 70s West Coast pop/rock/country-rock?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiEIToOWr64

I love this song so much.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 6 August 2009 03:00 (sixteen years ago)

four weeks pass...

Heads up for Doug Sahm/SDQ fans, Bear Family is fixing to drop a new Louie & The Lovers set, featuring their great Doug-produced album from '70 (which Evangeline put on cd some years back) plus their lost Atlantic lp from '72!

The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 3 September 2009 16:12 (sixteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

that William Truckaway LP arrived in the mail today--really enjoy it. Second side a bit more than the first, which has a mellow "LA session guy" sound, but totally well played and pleasant.

ian, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 17:51 (sixteen years ago)

http://ventvox.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/51EoE1GUpLL.jpg
has this been mentioned? Basically Jansch's early-mid70s West Coast post-psych/pop/rock/folk-rock/country-rock record. And pretty great! Drag City just reissued ....

tylerw, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 19:09 (sixteen years ago)

I have a rapidshare link for that William Truckaway album, if anyone's interested.

Jacob Sanders, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 19:19 (sixteen years ago)

Friend of mine just recommended that Jansch record. I haven't heard it but I'm curious.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 22:27 (sixteen years ago)


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