THE WORST NME COVER OF ALL TIME

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benrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

i can't decide if i like The Gossip's cover of 'Are You That Somebody' or not.

2 american 4 u (blueski), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

beth ditto isn't unattractive, really. fat, but not particularly ugly. really good eyes.

also, she's got an amazing voice - it's v rare to hear a gospel-trained instrument of real power in indie music (well, it's rare to hear someone who can HIT NOTES AT ALL in indie music). i'm not too keen on the music - the gossip remind me of the bellrays, an amazingly cool frontperson hampered by bogstandard guitar sludge - EXCEPT their one classic song per album ('nite', 'standing in the way of control') which alone would make them classic (cos who cares about albums innit).

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

i can't decide if i like The Gossip's cover of 'Are You That Somebody' or not.

despite everything i said i really disapprove of this and can't envision it being anything other than bull-in-china-shop unsubtlety. i like the gossip and beth ditto's cool but seriously STEP THE FUCK OFF AALIYAH AND SHOW SOME RESPECT.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

who is aaliyah?

pscott (elwisty), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

She had a hit in 1981 with "Japanese Boy."

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

Beth Ditto - Has own style.
Karen O - Has own stylist.
Ellen Allien - Has own fashion line, ironing forbidden :)

brr (fandango), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

dry clean only?

2 american 4 u (blueski), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

oh she's on my cool list, if i had one.

benrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

hang out to freeze dry over east/west divide

brr (fandango), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

who is aaliyah?

the greatest artist of our generation

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

Did she do RnB?

Bidfurd (Bidfurd), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

You sure you're not mixing up Aaliyah with Lucien Freud?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

Did M.I.A. forget to register?

brr (fandango), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

i think i heard the song she did with sonic youth. that was good. and did she do rip it up and start again? that was good as well.

pscott (elwisty), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

No, Rip It Up And Start Again was Vicki Sue Robinson.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

marcello do you like northern lights by renaissance? i'm suprised it hasn't cropped up on pick of the pops yet.

pscott (elwisty), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

Hated it. Loathed it. Especially when Annie Haslam was interviewed in MM at the time and complained about other acts on TOTP when they were on, e.g. "Who is this Jilted John? I'm sorry, but that is NOT MUSIC." Fuck you, then and now.

Mind you, on POTP Dale would probably play "Northern Lights" and not "Jilted John."

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

I quite liked Northern Lights. Until just now.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know what Roy Wood ever saw in her.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

); they're both great songs imo. it's really odd to think of them being on the same TOTP though... i reckon dale would play jilted john it's not that likely to scare the horses in 2006... is it?

pscott (elwisty), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

Remember you're talking about the Sunday Radio 2 demographic in the context of Parkinson, Elaine Paige And Her Showtunes, Richard Baker and David "Hallo Thar" Jacobs so elderly horses with weak hearts are likely to be very easily scared.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 23 November 2006 08:44 (nineteen years ago)

yay for beth

electric sound of jim [and why not] (electricsound), Thursday, 23 November 2006 08:59 (nineteen years ago)

The Gossip>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bowling for Soup.

-- braveclub (fishohfis...), November 22nd, 2006. (braveclub) (later)

Wrongest ILX poste ever.

dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:33 (nineteen years ago)

Believe me, I've seen both bands live, and I know of what I speak.

braveclub (braveclub), Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:34 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.boomspeed.com/henngin/bethditto2.jpg

"Driving in a Trans-Am/ Does a mullet make a man?"

dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:38 (nineteen years ago)

i agree with braveclub, but then i think BFS are one of the five worst bands of all time

2 american 4 u (blueski), Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:59 (nineteen years ago)

haha beth is wearing a missy t-shirt! hurrah.

bfs are ghastly, obviously.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 23 November 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

indies have been digging on missy since '97.

benrique (Enrique), Thursday, 23 November 2006 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

Lex being exhibit #1.

dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Thursday, 23 November 2006 13:09 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.drownedinsound.com/articles/1335688

i am not a nugget (stevie), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

personally I don't think a bunch of people sitting in an office drinking tea, inventing musical genres, and watching Nathan Barley DVDs are leading any kind of cool brigade, do you?

she should come to ilx.

benrique (Enrique), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

unfamiliar twinge of grudging respect for Lallen

Mickey Neuman Snr (Ferg), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

L'ALLEN OTM!

standing in the way of control-alt-delete (fandango), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

"I mean how fucking patronising. Is that all we are, stilleto-wearing people? Is that all he could say, that we brought a 'new energy' to the music scene? Don't make me sick. We've always been here, you arrogant prick. This was your chance to actually show you meant it. And instead you put Muse on the cover, 'cause you thought that your readers might not buy a magazine with an overweight lesbian and a not-particularly-attractive-looking me on the front. Wankers.

"You should take your heads out of your New Rave arses, and actually think about your responsibilities to youth culture, and to women in general."

Fantastic. Are you still anti this woman, Marcello?

Venga (Venga), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

about your responsibilities to youth culture

ok gran!

benrique (Enrique), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to e-mail the NME now, asking why Dom Passantino didn't make the cool list.

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wordy rappaport (EstieButtez1), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

I mean how fucking patronising.

Because when you want an expert on being a fucking patronising bitch, you call Lily Allen!

wordy rappaport (EstieButtez1), Thursday, 23 November 2006 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

(Not to say the NME waz right or anything, she's just full of bullshit and that clouds any good points she might have...)

wordy rappaport (EstieButtez1), Thursday, 23 November 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

Hang on, Lex has heard of Beth Ditto?

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 23 November 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

re: lily, sheer class, top marks, spot on. if only she could bring that same spirit to her records.

this was a very strange addition to the cool list...

36 Mike Patton

much as I love the guy, I had no idea why he should have been there, as it's not as if NME even give his work the barest of glances. but a trip to the supermarket's magazine-browsing shelf reveals he's 'cool' for slagging off wolfmother in an interview (which is fair enough. they are a pile of monkeycock), and not for the three great albums he released this year.

feh, NME, feh! very poor!

mister the guanoman (mister the guanoman), Thursday, 23 November 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

Have women always been "cool" or is this a recent development?

braveclub (braveclub), Thursday, 23 November 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

Thursday, November 23, 2006

Wrong end of the Glowstick . NME rant
Current mood: aggravated

I probably shouldn't be writing this , but I have to get it off my chest . I am not a big fan of the NME , as they sold me down the river when I last talked to them , I did and interview and made a sarcastic joke using the word "gak" which is slang for cocaine . They glorified my joke and used it out of context , then their public relations dept , contacted the tabloids in a shameful attempt to sell more copies . And , I have ever since been known as " Lily Allen , Pint sized potty mouth popstar who once admitted she would celebrate her no 1 single by taking cocaine ! " .
Thanks NME . Now , I have read many articles in the NME , where male band members freely admit to, or associate themselves with the taking of drugs , and I havent seen many of them ending up in the tabloids . Take Klaxons for example, and the ongoing MDMA references. " MDMAZING " I believe was the title of a recent article ( how responsible! ) .
The only reason I can think of , for recieving such a different form of treatment , is because I am a woman . I did recieve a written apology from Conor Mcnicholas ( the editor) . But i vowed never to work with the NME agian . As I thought, if there was one publication I could trust and be frank with , it would be the theirs .

Anyway , I was aproached by them again , with regards to the "Cool List Issue 2006" , five women had made it into the top 10 and , subsequently we (the women) were asked to pose for photos to be the main feature for the cover . As I said before , I vowed not to work with them again , but as the context was so important ie; a a strong female presence in music . I thought i might aswell put aside my differences and do it . Now i don't care for " the cool list " , and I said this to them in the interview , which is probably why they didn't print it . I don't really think the NME are in any position to tell us who is cool and who isn't , personally I don't think a bunch of people sitting in an office drinking tea , inventing musical genres , and watching Nathan Barley DVD's are leading any kind of cool brigade , do you ?
But i did find it interesting that they wanted to put five women on the cover , and wanted to name 2006 , our year .

I went to get a copy yesterday , and this is what we ( the women ) got . Another fuckin MUSE cover . I like Muse , infact , Black Holes and Revelations , is one of my favourite albums of this year . But the NME have covered them so much this year already .

Now usually you might expect a call , just out of courtousy telling us we had been pulled off the cover , but we recieved nothing .

This is Conors ( the editors) comments on this issue , He has obviusly put out some press release , stating how supportive the NME is to women in music

Conor McNicholas, the editor of NME, said he was pleased that the Cool List was full of women who had brought "new energy" to the music world.

"This year's Cool List is a testament to the raft of hugely talented women who have taken hold of the music scene in 2006," he said. "From Beth to Lily to Karen, they've brought new energy to a scene dominated by men. They're also living proof that you can still rock a crowd when you're wearing stilettos."

I mean how fucking patronising " you can still rock a crowd wearing stilletos "
Is that all we are , stilleto wearing people , is that all he could say ,that we brought a " new energy" to the music scene . Don't make me sick , wev'e always been here you arrogant prick , this was your chance to actually show you meant it . And instead you put Muse on the cover . Cause you thought that your readers might not buy a magazine with an overweight lesbian and a not particularly attractive looking me , on the front . Wankers .

You should take your heads out of you New Rave arses , and actually think about your responsibilities to youth culture , and to women in general .

Oh and by the way , theres not enough RAVE in New Rave .

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standing in the way of control-alt-delete (fandango), Thursday, 23 November 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

Have women always been "cool" or is this a recent development?

According to the NME, it happened sometime earlier this year.

According to Lily Allen, it happened when Lily Allen starts making records!

wordy rappaport (EstieButtez1), Thursday, 23 November 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

personally I don't think a bunch of people sitting in an office drinking tea, inventing musical genres, and watching Nathan Barley DVDs are leading any kind of cool brigade, do you?

she should come to ilx.

We have an office?

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 23 November 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

Welp, "I like Muse , infact , Black Holes and Revelations , is one of my favourite albums of this year" and "theres not enough RAVE in New Rave" totally destroys any good points she might have.

wordy rappaport (EstieButtez1), Thursday, 23 November 2006 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

Lily OTM obv.

re that Dom photo

how did Frank Skinner get on the cover of Time?

2 american 4 u (blueski), Thursday, 23 November 2006 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

Have women always been "cool" or is this a recent development?

According to the NME, it happened sometime earlier this year.

According to Lily Allen, it happened when Lily Allen starts making records!

-- wordy rappaport (estiebuttez...) (webmail), November 23rd, 2006 4:05 PM. (EstieButtez1) (later) (link)

Don't make me sick , wev'e always been here you arrogant prick

i am not a nugget (stevie), Thursday, 23 November 2006 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

Fantastic. Are you still anti this woman, Marcello?

From her Times Magazine "interview" last Saturday:
"I don't get out of bed for anyone, you know."

Two years from now she'll wish she had.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 23 November 2006 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, Lily.

I wondered howcome, that the first time I saw the "Gak" 'joke' was in the Sun, and the second time was in the NME.

I'm reading Stuart Maconie's book at the moment, he harks back to the late eighties days when the 'highbrow' writing style was haemorraging NME readership. Back then, they'd have shot someone who'd sold out copy to the Sun. Now, it's company policy.

That's what would make me stop buying it!

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 23 November 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)


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