De La Soul - Classic or Dud?

I'm also baffled why the doc stops at Stakes and skips to the new album -- and no mention of Pos's spinal meningitis in 1994, which seems as integral to group's story as Ralf Hutter's cycling accident to Kraftwerk's

The beginning of this album is something of a slog but by the time I hit around track 4-5 I'm in heaven

their Judgment Night song w/Teenage Fanclub "Fallin" really holds up a lot better than everything else on that album, amazingly somehow they actually hit on something that reflected the strengths of both groups

^^ this (and thanks for the welcome back, shakedown)

i was wondering what was gonna be your batsignal PW

anytime you need me, mention this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt8WEE_vB0E

"who was that masked man"

Yikes what a dull performance. And Estelle sounds horrible. Why does Estelle sound horrible?

http://pitchfork.com/news/68591-watch-de-la-soul-estelle-and-the-roots-perform-memory-of-us-on-fallon/

Oh wow she does sound really bad there. that was really boring yea, poor song choice

New & Notable: @WeAreDeLaSoul’s “Buhloone Mindstate” and other @tommyboyrecords classics now available digitally and on vinyl. https://t.co/rjtnAtZ0C9

— bandcamp (@Bandcamp) September 4, 2018

Yay!

is there any more seminal/canonical band whose catalog was so royally fucked up/made unavailable by the record industry and its legal pitfalls?

is there any more seminal/canonical band whose catalog was so royally fucked up/made unavailable by the record industry and its legal pitfalls?

possibly why the band gave their albums away digitally a few years ago.

oh that's definitely why they did it

I'm just struggling to think of another act that released such hugely influential and popular records, that subsequently had their work disappear from circulation for extended periods of time for legal reasons.

It is weird that their albums disappeared while Paul's Boutique has never gone out of print.

`cism

I don't think so, it has to do with who filed lawsuits against who. That the Beatles didn't sue might have something to do with the fact that the Beasties were on Capitol... De La happened to get sued by a couple people that were incredibly aggressive legally (ie, the Turtles and Armen Boladian)

So many shitty things about music can be blamed on the Turtles.

eh good outweighs the bad imo

I've never cared for Zappa. the Turtles records + T. Rex + their backing vocals on all sorts of stuff (the Psychedelic Furs!) make them forever classic imo

It is weird that their albums disappeared while Paul's Boutique has never gone out of print.

yeah, lawsuits aside, those records almost certainly went out of print after Tommy Boy left Warner. I'd be surprised if Three Feet and Is Dead turn up on Bandcamp.

right, but I would guess that Tommy Boy didn't re-issue or license them to others for re-issue because of the legal settlements (having to pay Armen Boladian $0.01 on every copy sold or whatever it was)

tried to buy buhloone on bandcamp, but there is some error going on. anyone have better luck?

I think Warner still held the catalogue actually! and while they could afford to pay a weird publishing split and an onerous mechanical here and there, once Tom himself was gone, there was no longer a perceived A&R value to making a lower amount on any one sale because the artist was out there promoting the overall oeuvre

yeah that makes sense

yo can someone ysi buloone? i can't find a digital copy to buy that works and i have no idea where in storage my old cds are.

I envy you hearing it for the first time!

i really will be like the first time , i haven't heard through in years

I can email a zip

i sent you my email through here

Could you send it again? Odd - I saw it, clicked on it, then it vanished.

sent TY

just another area
for me to pah-trol

Got it that time.

See what happens...

success!

Ah good.

i be four eleven

sometimes I think it's their best album - not as left-field startling as the debut, but more concise, no filler

and all of the guest spots are fantastic

It IS their best album.

but DLSID exist

im sure this was debated upthread but i am still on the fence myself

Nah, Dead is easily their most creative album. 3 Feet is more accessible, Buhloone is more abstract. They're all three absolutely brilliant and I could get on board with any well-articulated reasons why any of them are their overall best album.

Personally, my pick is Dead.👌

I love these dudes so much. I ranked them.

Never saw em live back in the day but just saw them do a free show outdoors outside the Kennedy Center. Recognized Potholes in my Lawn, Me, Myself & I, and one other one. not the rest , but it was all still fun with lots of calls to wave your arms in the air.

lol at "one other one"

it might blow up but it won't go pop

THE BEST...THE BEST?...THE BEST! OOH WEEE!

sometimes I think it's their best album - not as left-field startling as the debut, but more concise, no filler

it is indeed

man Art Official Intelligence: Mosaic Thump is so damn tight. Only the attempts at Puff-era crossover go splat.

Every mixtape should contain one of the following songs:

Oodles of Os
Millie Pulled A Pistol On Santa
Ego Trippin' (Part 2)
Rock Co.Kane Flow