PINK FLOYD

Was Richard Wright Pink Floyd's second best song-writer (after Syd)?

Pink Floyd's Richard Wright, forgotten genius?

even if we're sticking to his best-loved work, come on, "fearless" (gilmour/waters) vs. "summer '68" (wright)?

Fearless is overrated. I'll take Summer '68.

walk alone then

^^^ <3 u mookie

i love rick, but he strikes me less as a harrison-style "dark horse" and more as a carl wilson type. "long promised road" and "feel flows" are both really good songs, but by no means would i call carl one of the pre-eminent songwriting talents of that band, and with those two solo albums of his the bad far outweighs the good in his catalog.

and even the good.. the scarcity of his songwriting contributions for the band does a little to mask his fairly limited range as a songwriter. he wrote about drinking and one-night stands and had an inexplicably fondness for that "ADRINKADRINK" kind of riff, all awkward chords and unappealing quiet-loud contrasts. when he wasn't doing that, or his damn "turkish delite" riff, he would do songs like "stay", which i like, it's fine soft rock, but you know, it's no "motel blues". hell, it's not even mark eric.

rick also had, for most of his life, the problem that he didn't feel comfortable singing lead live. given that he was in a band with roger waters this is clearly a psychological and not a musical issue, but a lot of floyd's songs took flight in concert. as leaden as waters' pastoral folk stuff like "grantchester meadows" could sound on record, when they went on kqed and waters and gilmour dueted on it the song was much improved. same thing with gilmour's "fat old sun" - just fantastic in concert.

or his damn "turkish delite" riff

>:[

He seemed to lack self confidence in his musical abilities, and it seems like his bandmates didn't do much to discourage from that viewpoint.

https://youtu.be/WnlnlWSdoIY

Rave master matrix

Hey everyone

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I like The Endless River

And why shouldn't you? It's a decent album.

I've only listened to it a couple of times... that it doesn't touch the '70s classics is a given, but I actually preferred it to The Division Bell and A Momentary Lapse of Reason.

Does anyone have a copy of the rave master matrix bootleg?

xxpost, i feel like ppl really shit on it? maybe that was just my perception. obv a little ponderous in places but some of it reminds me of obscured by clouds a bit and gets as trippy in places as they were in years

that matrix sounds like it rules. looks like someone has posted a link to flac files in the youtube comments fyi.
i thought endless river sounded good at the time, but was a little too reference-y to Great Moments Of Pink Floyd's Past. should check it out again.

here's the link for the FLACs, it's still active: http://www.filefactory.com/file/c421f83/n/PF750618BosGarMat-flc.rar

Rave master is Boston, June 18, 1975

just listened to side one of Saucerful of Secrets really loud on my new turntable. it sounded great until those damn kazoos started up. Corporal Clegg is a cool noise rock song but the two multi-kazoo interludes are TMI.

Got thirteen channels of shit on the tv to choose from

something so right about this
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-apple-london-idUSKCN11Y1YW?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=57ebea2e04d30178dfd7cc4f&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

decided to give "momentary lapse of reason" a go

haven't listened to this for a long, long time

i will always love "learning to fly", big childhood nostalgia, probably the second pink floyd song i was aware of (first being another brick in the wall)

this sax man goes mildly ham at the end of the dogs of war

Tylerw -- had the same reaction you did.

http://www.photocove.com/myupload/Pink_Floyd_g720zqyp5c.jpg

But of course.

Meantime, my budget may in fact allow me (later in the year) to go 'eh' and pick up the monster box for the hell of it. It really is my favorite era of the band, both Syd and non-Syd, and since it stops right before the era I no longer care about -- ie everything else -- it's kinda perfect.

http://img5.casegorilla.com/2d/main/a2di6x101079_2.jpg

http://eil.com/images/main/Pink+Floyd+Pulse+-+MAC+Screen+Saver+51363b.jpg

http://consequenceofsound.net/2016/10/roger-waters-depicts-donald-trump-as-a-dildo-loving-nazi-with-a-micro-penis/

Well, I went for it, pre-orderwise. My advice if you're in the US -- order from this link:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01J20B7IW/ref%3Das_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1634&creative=19450&creativeASIN=%20B01J20B7IW&linkCode=as2&tag=braindamage-21

In sum: if you do, thanks to the collapse of the UK pound, it will currently cost you $400, which is $150 off the baseline price for the US order. Also, as I discovered earlier, the DVDs and Blu-Rays are region-free, so further reason just to do that.

UK people, you may be interested in BBC4 tomorrow (21st Oct, 21:00), it looks like a broadcast based on one of the DVDs. A one-hour version, anyway.

Fuck, I've just turned this on, I could have spent the last 45 minutes watching this.

... switched it on in the middle of a band only performance of "Atom Heart Mother"!

Rog played the Bridge School Benefit last night. Backing band was My Morning Jacket (they played earlier in the evening); he brought his 2 fab backup singers (in costume!); and GE Smith on lead guitar

Setlist
Wish You Were Here
The Bravery of Being Out of Range
Mother
Vera
Bring The Boys Back Home
Hello In There (John Prine)
Forever Young (Bob Dylan) - with Neil Young

it kinda ruled, guys

I have to admit that's one of the most out of nowhere setlists I would have expected from him.

Also, giving nothing away but Waters features prominently in an upcoming PBS series next month, Soundbreaking, and I was constantly (and happily) surprised at how engaging, funny and warm his contributions and memories were. I idly noted this elsewhere and a friend of a friend said it was all down to him getting therapy, and if so, well, best decision he's made ever. I was so used to thinking of him as a power-crazed grump I hadn't expected a turnaround.

yeah my morning jacket sure know how to knock "mother" out of the park

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzdP0Dgt2FI

His having been in therapy has been well known and documented for years. xp

No doubt! But I'd not heard of it until now.

Doesn't David sing "wish?" Wtf

I guess it's too much to hope for another performance by Harper of Have a Cigar but maybe these old dudes should try it anyway. Harper is 75

guessing I should get Us + Them tickets; still kicking myself for missing the Wall

I think harper's reputation is pretty in the shitter right now, not sure anyone wants to be seen with him

We could invite James page to play hats off.

Yeah, but since he was found Not Guilty, I guess a slow brand rebuild is probably on the way.

Well, guess who got to spend some time with a certain really expensive box set?

I'll say first of all, I'd maybe pay 600 dollars for these versions of Vegetable Man and Scream Thy Last Scream alone. Been waiting a lifetime for this. A bit over-compressed, but amazing.

All in all it's a weird set. Certain things I thought would be complete aren't quite, like the Zabriskie Point stuff has versions/outtakes I haven't heard and doesn't have stuff I have heard on bootlegs.

So this set doesn't replace all the bootlegs you've ever owned, but it certainly compliments it.

And in a few cases gives you a clearer remastered version of some things you've heard.

In the Beechwoods is totally fascinating. Almost doesn't make sense in their catalog at all. I don't think I'd ever heard a bootleg of it before. Sounds like the Zombies writing an outtake for Tommy as performed by The Beach Boys.

Also confusing but pointed out elsewhere online there was maybe a last minute switcheroo or mistake. Tracklist and WIKI says one of the discs is a remix of Obscured by Clouds but it's actually the Live at Pompei tracks remixed.

I'd also like to reiterate that while I think the set is obviously very freaking expensive, I don't think it's that much of a rip-off. Like considering the sheer quantity of material and production value, it's not like they're getting criminal margins out of this.

You can do the math. 10 audio CDs to start. Then add 8 DVDs/Blurays, including two full length feature films.

All of that digital media in 6 box sets, each with booklets of photos and text with a sleeve holding mini reproductions.

Then a handful of vinyl 7" singles nicely packaged.

Then a pile of printed reproduction posters, flyers, pamphlets. Not huge, but very nicely done. Spot color offset printing, metallic inks, recreation of programs.

I don't know, as someone who's had a hand on the production side of music and printed material, I'd think this amount of stuff would really add up. I don't know what equivalent sets would go for.

i heard most of "Vegetable Man" and the sound quality was really really nice

yeah "vegetable man" sounded amazing, jeezus. hilariously maddening that they didn't put it (or scream thy last scream) on the affordable two-disc sampler.

i'm hearing word that the track labelled "seabirds" isn't, and is actually an unidentified instrumental. this will make me very sad if true.

Oh yeah. I wasn't famiilar w/ Seabirds till now. Definitely not it. More like one of those Fingals Cave takes. Though I have 2 distinct versions of that song on bootlets, one rocks, the other is spacier. What a mess.

So the tracklist their official site is incorrect? No "Obsfucation" disc at all? That sucks.