pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

Dreamin' Wild by Donnie & Joe Emerson is NOT a dollar bin record lol

― flopson, Wednesday, August 24, 2016 8:44 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah no shit

no sarcasm - can you recommend a few songs that are as good as that from obscuro bargain bin kind of albums? i have no opinion on whether private press shit deserves to be on a top 200 list from a decade, but i would be into more songs like that because i like that song a lot

― I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone)

this guy has a good list: https://rateyourmusic.com/list/bpnicast/denizens_of_the_dollar_bin/

― a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Tuesday, August 23, 2016 4:49 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Karl - sorry I wasn't clear - I was actually against private press stuff really, like when we're leaving off really great bands like ZZ Top, the Meters, Gapp Band, Richard & Linda Thompson, James Gang etc etc like why the hell does like oh gee it's a neat song and I'm glad these kids could kinda play and they had a cool dad that made them a studio and it's fine enough but seriously I'd rather fucking "Thunder Island" by Jay Ferguson or "Fantasy" by Aldo Nova or shit like that was on the list as an actual representation of what the 70s really was instead of like some shit that no one cared abt and kinda reminded ppl of some precursor to 00s lo fi indie shit

also i'm pissed at whatever money i've wasted at record stores or garage sales on "rare" private press stuff that's usually limp dan fogelberg crap anyway

ha also scratch aldo nova which was 80s for jane by jefferson starship but it's the same song

I have a lot of love for private press stuff even the limp "Christ there's only one actual song here" variety but ums is nevertheless otm. it's weird how this list is...kind retro-Pitchfork? like, it's got a canon it already decided on, major MAJOR players from the era just aren't involved in it so they get no love

bummed to discover that ZZ Top is not cool :(

weirdly zz top and ac/dc are the only non-inclusions where i'm like hmmm. i dunno how many current pfork staffers are bumping "la grange" on the regular though. (did i miss it or were aerosmith shut-out too? though again I suspect a lot of the new crew are 90s babies ether scarred or sated by the mega-ballad era.)

still think these things would be much more interesting with a one song per band rule but w/e i don't make the rules.

I wonder if Pitchfork's new anti-Devo stance is because nerds are the new bullies or because new wave sold itself out to swiffer commercials or like "lmfao fischerspooner" or because new wave/punk is the new cis white male corny ass dickbeater dad "real music" like the Beatles/Stones were or all of the above

did devo not appear on the '80s list

no

same w/r/t Gary Numan, non-disco Blondie, the Police, Squeeze, Only Ones, the Knack w/e

like, go watch Reality Bites DAD

"Go watch Grosse Point Blank and listen to Tubeway you saddo cis fuck"

*slams door*

*blasts Womack and Womack*

Again, I don't think this is "wrong" or "bad," I just think it's funny/interesting how tastes are changing

simple answer.

devo rule pitchfork drools

I will still love Devo even if they are lame dad music now

okay, i made a suburban pool party megamix from the top 200. ALL kinds of white people would be happy to get down with this on a hot july day when the beers are cold:

neat neat neat
ca plane pour moi
american girl
radio radio
surrender
teenage kicks
miss you
mr. blue sky
love is the drug
(don't fear) the reaper
deacon blues
what a fool believes
train in vain
immigrant song
just what i needed
lola
rock lobster
baba o'riley
rock & roll
roadrunner
the chain
war pigs
london calling
young americans
psycho killer
good times (gotta have my one disco jam!)
wish you were here
walk on the wild side
ever fallen in love
blitzkrieg bop
rock with you (aw hell yeah, MJ!)
sweet jane
search and destroy
when the levee breaks
changes
heart of glass
lust for life

Karl - sorry I wasn't clear - I was actually against private press stuff really, like when we're leaving off really great bands like ZZ Top, the Meters, Gapp Band, Richard & Linda Thompson, James Gang etc etc like why the hell does like oh gee it's a neat song and I'm glad these kids could kinda play and they had a cool dad that made them a studio and it's fine enough but seriously I'd rather fucking "Thunder Island" by Jay Ferguson or "Fantasy" by Aldo Nova or shit like that was on the list as an actual representation of what the 70s really was instead of like some shit that no one cared abt and kinda reminded ppl of some precursor to 00s lo fi indie shit

also i'm pissed at whatever money i've wasted at record stores or garage sales on "rare" private press stuff that's usually limp dan fogelberg crap anyway

― Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, August 24, 2016 10:59 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otmmmmmmmm

also no smokey robinson? no paul simon? no barry white?

also the cars is a band that i can't understand why anyone gives a shit about

catchy tunes, cool sounds? i'm not a huge fan or anything, but i understand why people like 'em.

cars rule.

each list is an overcorrection of the last, which at least is more interesting than ossification

if someone put a gun to my head and made me choose between the cars debut and pretenders debut and b-52s debut i would go ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh just shoot me!

I love The Cars' first two records and a handful of post-1980 moments w/out being passionate about them; I'm pretty sure that's the reaction they wanted or expected.

after 1980 their albums are...touch and go

It's on America's tortured brow
That Mickey Mouse has grown up a cow
Now the workers have struck for fame
'Cause Lennon's [Lenin's] on sale again

Banksy's done it again

lmao

I think my biggest complaint with this list is how it completely ignores Prog Rock. If you were to gauge the 70's by this list, you'd just assume Prog Rock had no impact on the music of the decade at all.

yeah but prog didn't really get *good* until the first battles album

who did battles sample?

non-disco Blondie

surprised that "dreaming" qualifies as disco blondie

anyway sorry to make you check the '80s list again whiney i just for some reason had a weird memory of "freedom of choice" being on there

I was probably remembering the ancient '80s album list

Yes' "America" and "Siberian Khatru" and Genesis' "Battle of Epping Forest" pretty much sum up prog for me in the '70s, that and Flash's "Small Beginnings." Unless Henry Cow counts.

prog

please watch your language

i really wanted "roundabout" to make the list

Just realized, no Yoko on the list. That seems wrong.

Whiney complaining about white rock bands getting knocked off in favor of r&b is hilarious when the top 100 is disproportionately cbgb bullshit & x Ray spex are hella high but anita ward doesn't even place

Point being, get some perspective

or because new wave/punk is the new cis white male corny ass dickbeater dad "real music" like the Beatles/Stones were or all of the above

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, August 24, 2016 12:12 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fuck outta here dude new wave punk is most of this list esp top 100

d40 otm

devo rules dude

they deserve to be on the list

yeah you would expect the token "Roundabout" or "Starless" or maybe even "Supper's Ready"

hell it's tough to make an argument for "rock lobster" as radical queer music because everybody likes the song for reasons that have nothing to do with most of the band being queer.

I'd have two prog/art-rock songs (interchangeable terminology for me--maybe they're not) on a Top 100 for sure: "Roundabout" and a Jethro Tull song (many candidates). Also something from ELO before they became big on Top 40, if they count. Maybe "Tubular Bells" too, the Exorcist section.

I wish every song I don't like were off the list and replaced by songs that I do like.

That said Roundabout wuz robbed

"roundabout" sorta has a second life rn as an anime theme song/vine meme so it would've been fun to view it from 2016

Mentioned in School of Rock, too--"homework" for one of the kids.

why is this list provoking such strong emotion? i'll never understand ;_;

people love music

t/s: psychoanalyzing pitchfork listmakers vs talking about how great your taste is

xp dog c'mon

can't believe a hipster/indie website didn't put Aldo Nova on their list