But I wouldn't get your hopes up, because you know fine well it'll be all the Fuzzy Logic/Radiator tracks they've been playing anyway, plus 'Hermann Loves Pauline', 'Torra Fy Ngwallt Yn Hir', probably 'Down a Different River', and maybe 'Gathering Moss' ...
as for B-sides you might get 'Calimero', or 'Arnofio/Glo In The Dark' ...
... plus 'Slow Life', '(Drawing) Rings Around The World', 'Hello Sunshine', 'Juxtapozed With U', 'Golden Retriever' and 'The Man Don't Give a Fuck', because why break the habit of a lifetime.
― the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 21:19 (seven years ago) link
It says they're playing both albums from start to finish. I don't know how they'll fit them all in, but that's the story as it goes.
I definitely have had my fill of the songs in the last line of your post.
― afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 21:23 (seven years ago) link
The best way for them to do it, IMO, would be to play Fuzzy Logic (plus B-sides) one night and Radiator (plus B-sides) the next, but forgive me if I'm skeptical - there's been way too many times that an SFA gig has been advertised as being something outside of what they normally do, and ends up being the usual set.
― the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 22:10 (seven years ago) link
Well, I bought a presale ticket to the Norwich gig. I'm still not sure how they're planning on playing two full albums back-to-back, but I don't want to miss out.
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 16:54 (seven years ago) link
I wouldn't be surprised if they cheat and using backing tracks for the songs they probably don't even remember. That's the only thing I'm worried about. Based on recent interview, I know a couple of them barely even remember their own names.
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 16:59 (seven years ago) link
I can believe that. I happened upon an SFA dressing room one time, back in the day. The fog of weed smoke was practically impenetrable.
― Position Position, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 17:54 (seven years ago) link
both albums are only around 45 minutes long
― Number None, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 18:37 (seven years ago) link
I once partied down with them in their dressing room after a show. I've never seen so much weed in my life. Like, there were 4 or 5 mixing bowls filled with buds. There was also full-blown DJ setup and they were all taking turns throwing down on the decks.
It was a good night.
― Davey D, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 18:52 (seven years ago) link
http://www.pledgemusic.com/projects/super-furry-animals
DISC 1 – FUZZY LOGIC + B-SIDESFuzzy Logic (Original 1996 album – 2016 Remaster)• God! Show Me Magic• Fuzzy Birds• Something 4 The Weekend • Frisbee• Hometown Unicorn• Gathering Moss• If You Don’t Want Me To Destroy You• Bad Behaviour • Mario Man• Hangin’ With Howard Marks• Long Gone• For Now And EverB-Sides & Such (2016 Remaster)• Lazy Life (Of No Fixed Identity) • Don’t Be A Fool, Billy! • Death By Melody • Something For The Weekend• Dim Bendith • Waiting To Happen • Arnofio / Glô In The Dark • Guacamole • The Man Don’t Give A Fuck • (Nid) Hon Yw’r Gân Sy’n Mynd I Achub Yr Iaith
DISC 2 – LOST ON THE BYPASS ROAD (Bonus tracks – previously unreleased apart from track 1)
Studio Demo Session, Summer 1995 • Frisbee • Something For The Weekend• Hangin’ With Howard Marks• Sali MaliStudio Demo Session, October 1995 • Bad Behaviour• Lazy Life (Of No Fixed Identity)• Mario Man• Death By Melody• Hometown Unicorn• Waiting To Happen• If You Don’t Want Me To Destroy You• Gathering Moss• The Man Don’t Give A Fuck• Fuzzy Birds• For Now And EverLive At The Phoenix Festival, 20th July 1996• Frisbee• Organ Yn Dy Geg• Fix Idris• Something For The Weekend• Hometown Unicorn• If You Don’t Want Me To Destroy You• Focus Pocus/Debiel• Bad Behaviour• Mario Man• God! Show Me Magic
― groovypanda, Friday, 16 September 2016 09:23 (seven years ago) link
Can't wait to hear the demos, but this MDGAF demo is horrendous:
https://soundcloud.com/salvolabel/the-man-dont-give-a-fuck-demo-session-october-1995?utm_source=soundcloud&utm_campaign=share&utm_medium=twitter
I guess that makes it even cooler since MDGAF rules.
― afriendlypioneer, Friday, 16 September 2016 14:54 (seven years ago) link
i'm partial to these demos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lcY6kFwt94
particularly this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GL0km3QzlAo
― afriendlypioneer, Friday, 16 September 2016 15:04 (seven years ago) link
There's absolutely no way I'm buying this album again. The bonus material looks very unexciting, too.
― the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Friday, 16 September 2016 15:08 (seven years ago) link
I'm more interested in any possible outtakes/unreleased songs rather than demos. Although the live stuff should be fun to listen to.
― the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Friday, 16 September 2016 15:11 (seven years ago) link
Hey Gruff claims the remaster sounds completely new and that there's tons of differences with the original release. You know he's never prone to hyperbole..
― afriendlypioneer, Friday, 16 September 2016 15:13 (seven years ago) link
Apart from when he described Hey Venus! as "speaker blowing", Dark Days/Light Years as "biblical" and 'Lliwiau Llachar' as sounding like The Who. I could go on - I won't. But yeah, I'll believe it when I hear it.
― the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Friday, 16 September 2016 15:17 (seven years ago) link
Gruff also says: "The reissue is radically different to the original, some songs have alternate beginnings and endings and people will notice the difference in definition, especially in high resolution digital and the new vinyl cut. 1995/6 was an overwhelming whirlwind of touring, gimmickry and mayhem for us so it's been a real treat to take some time to relive and reassess all these songs and compile everything that we recorded in that short, magical period in one place."
― afriendlypioneer, Friday, 16 September 2016 15:46 (seven years ago) link
It's likely he's referring to the demos when he talks about alternate beginnings and endings.
Truth be told, I'll probably stream the demos once and stick with the original CD.
― the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Friday, 16 September 2016 15:51 (seven years ago) link
I have a confession.
I absolutely love 'Bing Bong.'
Had the best time ever dancing with my son to it yesterday.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cmu6GYIHH6o
― afriendlypioneer, Friday, 7 October 2016 16:25 (seven years ago) link
http://www.magnetmagazine.com/2016/10/10/magnet-classics-the-making-of-super-furry-animals-rings-around-the-world/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MagnetMagazine+%28Magnet+Magazine%29
Pretty interesting long article on Rings Around the World. Of course, this part intrigued me the most:
That lost outlier, Shaw remembers, was titled “Chihuahua”: “It was part of a long, extended jam that they did in the studio, almost like a dance track. Somebody hit upon the idea of getting a samba band on the record. Apparently, there’s a Welsh samba band somewhere, because we found them, and got them to the studio, but it just didn’t work out. Though we did get something out of it. A girl in the samba band played one of these huge, deep-sounding bass drums; Eric peeled it off of one of the recordings and turned it into an 808, and that wound up being the obnoxiously low bass tone that you hear—or, rather, feel, though only if you’ve got a big enough subwoofer—on (Ciarán’s Stooges-sampling trip-hop instrumental) ‘(A) Touch Sensitive.’ So, the samba band kinda made the record.”
― afriendlypioneer, Monday, 10 October 2016 20:24 (seven years ago) link
That was a good read!
― pen pineapple apple pen (Turrican), Monday, 10 October 2016 22:09 (seven years ago) link
https://www.instagram.com/p/BMWruEyANF3/?taken-by=kliphscurlock
Radiator is getting remastered.
― afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 3 November 2016 17:42 (seven years ago) link
A vinyl reissue of Radiator would make me very very happy.
― Kitchen Person, Thursday, 3 November 2016 17:45 (seven years ago) link
I know nothing about production, mastering or mixing, but is there any chance they'll be able to improve the sound of the bass on the record? The album's production has always made my ears feel very tired.
― afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 3 November 2016 17:48 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZY4HGiMdqE
― afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 3 November 2016 17:50 (seven years ago) link
A vinyl reissue of Radiator would make me very very happy.― Kitchen Person, Thursday, November 3, 2016 11:45 AM
― Kitchen Person, Thursday, November 3, 2016 11:45 AM
― hardcore dilettante, Friday, 4 November 2016 00:01 (seven years ago) link
Fuzzy Logic remaster is out/on Spotify if you're curious
― afriendlypioneer, Friday, 4 November 2016 11:44 (seven years ago) link
Single version of Something 4 The Weekend used instead of the album take. Actually don't mind this bit of revisionism
― PaulTMA, Friday, 4 November 2016 12:07 (seven years ago) link
It was like that before iirc - I listened to the FL/Radiator version recently and that had the slower version, put it down to Sony/BMG slackness. It is a better version though it sounded weird in that context.
Am interested to compare this with the original but probably not enough to buy it. I've been happy with the way it's sounded for 20 years tbh.
Enjoyed that film, esp. Guto's look-to-camera as Gruff listed 23 coincidences. Bunf looks terrible though.
― useless chamber, Friday, 4 November 2016 12:21 (seven years ago) link
It's listed as 'U.S. Version' on Spotify, but it sounds like the same old UK single version to me. Did it go on all the US pressings then? That could explain why it ended up on the 2fer. The UK album version isn't anywhere to be found on the deluxe.
― PaulTMA, Friday, 4 November 2016 12:30 (seven years ago) link
perhaps Bunf read this thread
― PaulTMA, Friday, 4 November 2016 12:31 (seven years ago) link
scrub that, the album version appears after Death By Melody
― PaulTMA, Friday, 4 November 2016 12:32 (seven years ago) link
Sorry Bunf. Get some sleep man!
― useless chamber, Friday, 4 November 2016 12:43 (seven years ago) link
This is being live broadcast on BBC Radio Cymru at 8pm
Composed by Cian Ciarán, performed by BBC National Orchestra Wales, poetry by Gruffudd Antur. For 20 years and counting a member of Super Furry Animals, Cian Ciarán comes together with the BBC National Orchestra of Wales to tell a traditional Welsh fable in music. The world premiere performance of a work that has been almost two-decades in development, Cian Ciarán’s first orchestral piece Rhys & Meinir promises a rare, aural experience that encapsulates the drama of ancient Welsh folklore, the envisioned splendour of rural Wales and the innate, musical curiosity of the intrepid composer. Rhys and Meinir found love in the village of Nant Gwrtheyrn, North Wales and their childhood romance blossomed for all to see. On the day of their marriage, Meinir is nowhere to be found and the mystery leads Rhys into months of despair. When finally a thunder strike reveals Meinir’s final hiding place, Rhys is unable to live a second longer. Supported by Arts Council Wales and the PRS for Music Foundation
― afriendlypioneer, Friday, 4 November 2016 12:54 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, the US version swapped out the original album version of 'Something For The Weekend' for the single version, even at the time.
― Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Friday, 4 November 2016 13:10 (seven years ago) link
The remasters don't sound much different to me, but I'm listening on low budget earbuds on a laptop. Someone with a better system might want to chime in.
The "if You Don't Want Me to Destroy You" and "Mario Man" demos are pretty interesting. There's a different chorus on "Destroy."
― afriendlypioneer, Friday, 4 November 2016 15:47 (seven years ago) link
I did notice two or three seconds of extra noise at the end of "God! Show Me Magic," however, so I guess Gruff told the truth about something.
― afriendlypioneer, Friday, 4 November 2016 15:52 (seven years ago) link
Cian's composition in full: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0380rs6
― afriendlypioneer, Friday, 4 November 2016 23:19 (seven years ago) link
If you're interested, Kliph is giving pretty thorough and interesting answers to questions about the remasters and the SFA vault.
https://m.reddit.com/r/superfurryanimals/comments/5b36qa/qa_kliph_scurlock_answers_your_questions_about/?compact=true
― afriendlypioneer, Saturday, 5 November 2016 18:32 (seven years ago) link
Yeah. Like that sort of thing..
― Mark G, Sunday, 6 November 2016 09:56 (seven years ago) link
Preserving what they did originally is priority number one to me.
He says, after detailing a series of unneccessary, revisionist changes to Fuzzy Logic. I'm all for demos/unreleased tracks, but I hate this kind of revisionist bullshit. I'll be sticking with the 1996 original - it still sounds fine.
― Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Sunday, 6 November 2016 12:32 (seven years ago) link
or: he details a bunch of minor decisions made in reconstructing edits and crossfades between songs, and one extended outro.
― sad, hombres (sic), Sunday, 6 November 2016 13:12 (seven years ago) link
Does anybody know why Radiator was mixed with so little bass?
― MaresNest, Sunday, 6 November 2016 13:23 (seven years ago) link
x-post:
Those sort of changes are still unnecessary, IMO. Just bring the overall sound up to scratch and put out the unreleased/demo stuff, that's all that needs doing.
― Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Sunday, 6 November 2016 13:25 (seven years ago) link
They're not changes per se, though, and absolutely not unnecessary - he's having to MAKE the edits and crossfades and such as part of the mastering, and reckons it would be harder to replicate the poor-quality (in his assessment of the technology of the time, compared to today) edits than to make ones that sound good to him, and have the fannish bonus of containing little bits of music that the old version didn't.
If you don't want to hear them, that's fine! I'm almost certainly never going to buy these, but if I had disposable income and a good stereo, it would probably feel a little more worthwhile re-purchasing everything if I knew there were tiny little Easter eggs, representing the care and thought put into the project by the guy doing the remastering.
― sad, hombres (sic), Sunday, 6 November 2016 14:01 (seven years ago) link
Honestly, the only noticeable change was putting "Something 4" into the track list rather than the original. I happen to prefer it to the original studio version so it doesn't bother me; it's also how the original US version is sequenced.
― afriendlypioneer, Sunday, 6 November 2016 16:53 (seven years ago) link
I dunno, I'll give it at least one listen when I get around to it.
― Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Sunday, 6 November 2016 18:42 (seven years ago) link
I missed the show in Norwich. I've seen the set lists and they're straight-up playing the albums from front to back.
I found a poor vid of The Placid Casual. I think Bunf sounds pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go-uCTS2h8k
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 10:37 (seven years ago) link
Just fishing right now, however I may have two spare tickets for tomorrow night at the Roundhouse, [we can't go sadly] not fussed about payment, anyone potentially interested?
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 11:29 (seven years ago) link
Wd be up for this. Have DM'd you.
― Fizzles, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 13:47 (seven years ago) link
Holy WTF here. Via PR mail:
Everloving Records announces the US reissue Super Furry Animals’ 1996 debut album, Fuzzy Logic, for Record Store Day 2017!On Saturday April 22nd, Fuzzy Logic will be available on 180g LP with an additional 35 bonus tracks and on 2xCD. Gruff Rhys says: “The reissue is radically different to the original, some songs have alternative beginnings and endings and people will notice the difference in definition, especially in high resolution digital and the new vinyl cut.”
On Saturday April 22nd, Fuzzy Logic will be available on 180g LP with an additional 35 bonus tracks and on 2xCD. Gruff Rhys says: “The reissue is radically different to the original, some songs have alternative beginnings and endings and people will notice the difference in definition, especially in high resolution digital and the new vinyl cut.”
Seriously, *35* bonus tracks? What the heck! No word on what exactly yet but the mail goes on to say:
From the two-decade deep well of their adventurous catalogue come B-sides, a legendary festival performance and demo versions from low-key 1995 recording sessions, revealing the genesis and winding roads taken by many of their early hits.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 March 2017 17:15 (seven years ago) link