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What I mean is that every other aspect of the Beatles seems to have been covered ad nauseum but I don't remember ever reading anything very much about Lennon+Ono/ Plastic Ono Band

Samuel KB Amphong (Dada), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:19 (twenty years ago)

(I speak from the perspective of someone who for two years unsuccessfully lobbied U***t to give Todd Rundgren the front cover and 30 pages inside)

weirdly, i wouldn't have thought that would be a tough pitch there - isn't paul lester a huge Todd fan?

You couldn't get a huger Todd fan than PL. But neither of us was able to get past Jonesey Customs...

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:20 (twenty years ago)

"Plastic Ono Band" is probably the least Beatles sounding anyone in The Beatles has ever released, and as such may be a more risque thing to write about. Yet, I am pretty sure it was well-covered in one of their Lennon-specials.

And, btw. they have yet to make a "Mind Games" special, a "Tug Of War" special, a "Flowers In The Dirt" special or a "Cloud Nine" special. All of those were way better albums than "Plastic Ono Band".

You couldn't get a huger Todd fan than PL. But neither of us was able to get past Jonesey Customs...

There is an inhouse rule in Select that if they are ever to do a cover story of a more obscure act, it will always have to be some Americana act. :)

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:22 (twenty years ago)

Where is Band band?

Samuel KB Amphong (Dada), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:24 (twenty years ago)

They must be on the next cover of "Select"...

Where is Duke Ellingham Swing Band band?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:25 (twenty years ago)

Mojo usually feature acts whose fans were "around at the time". Sadly few people who were "around at the time" in the case of Duke Ellington are alive today.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:26 (twenty years ago)

CCR deserve it. But I don't think their story is very interesting (see also Talk Talk et al)

Samuel KB Amphong (Dada), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:27 (twenty years ago)

CCS would be more interesting than CCR.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:28 (twenty years ago)

Talk Talk would indeed have been interesting. For instance along with related acts such as David Sylvian and The Blue Nile.

But I guess they are sort of too narrow for the Mojo readership. Whenever they do keyboard based 80s music they do something a bit broader and more commercial.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:28 (twenty years ago)

Maybe I should try pitching Talk Talk to Disc and Music Echo.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:30 (twenty years ago)

Well there was a feature on Talk Talk in Mojo and it wasn't exactly a riveting read - moody band go into studio for a long time to make album, moody band leave studio and do nothing for a long time, moody band go into studio for a long time to make another album, moody band leave studio and do nothing for a long time once again, leader of moody band quits moody band and does nothing for a long time, former leader of moody band goes into studio for a long time to make solo album, former leader of moody band learns the clarinet (most exciting part of the story), former leader of moody band does nothing for a long time

Samuel KB Amphong (Dada), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:33 (twenty years ago)

kid creole and the coconuts -- 30:1

Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:34 (twenty years ago)

Moody Blues - evens

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:40 (twenty years ago)

Has Alex Harvey been done yet?

Samuel KB Amphong (Dada), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:42 (twenty years ago)

... I mean he's not that popular but his story is more interesting than, "...and then I quit the band and spent two years learning the clarinet"

Samuel KB Amphong (Dada), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:51 (twenty years ago)

Bigger than Elvis in the Glasgow I grew up in, Alex/Vambo was...

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:54 (twenty years ago)

Well obviously... and in Aus too

Samuel KB Amphong (Dada), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:56 (twenty years ago)

Alex was done some years ago, i'm sure - the pix were awesome. his brother was electrocuted onstage, yes? if so, definitely in Mojo.

i am not a nugget (stevie), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 10:01 (twenty years ago)

And, btw. they have yet to make a "Mind Games" special, a "Tug Of War" special, a "Flowers In The Dirt" special or a "Cloud Nine" special. All of those were way better albums than "Plastic Ono Band".

The quality of an album has no bearing on whether the story behind it is interesting or not.

I guess it's unlikely Duran*2 will ever aquiesce to do a 'making of' "Thank You" special, but hey it must have been interesting making a totally rub* album.

*received wisdom, haven't heared any of it.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 10:02 (twenty years ago)

his brother was electrocuted onstage, yes?

Yes, Les Harvey.

Samuel KB Amphong (Dada), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 10:07 (twenty years ago)

Its time they gave Parliament/Funkadelic a front cover and just devoted the entire magazine to them and all the spin offs.

Again that's the problem about funk/hip-hop fans. Your extreme intolerance towards anything that is not funk/hip-hop/R&B related.

Geir's reply is the funniest thing I've ever read on here by him.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:15 (twenty years ago)

So when will Mixmag or Kingsize feature a Coldplay/Keane/Travis special then?

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:45 (twenty years ago)

Who wants that?

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:47 (twenty years ago)

When hell freezes over. Mixmag sucks bigtime these days. gave up on it years ago.
(FYI Geir im not into hip-hop so i cant comment about hip-hop mags.
But didnt some hip-hop/RnB bands do a phil collins tribute? Then anything is possible)

Sometime in the future a hip-hop band will sample that piano riff on clocks.

x-post

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:49 (twenty years ago)

About the same percentage of the Mojo readers want a hip-hop special of Mojo, I guess.

But didnt some hip-hop/RnB bands do a phil collins tribute?

In a hip-hop style. Doing it in Collins' original style would have been very unlikely.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:51 (twenty years ago)

I bet it was just as dull!
Phil should've stayed behind the drums and quit music when Peter Gabriel left Genesis.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:52 (twenty years ago)

Sometime in the future a hip-hop band will sample that piano riff on clocks.

That just doesn't count. When will a hip-hop band do a cover of "Clocks" that contain every single verse sung from the beginning to the end, containing absolutely no rap parts, and with a backing track containing all the chords of the original, over a straight 4/4-beat?

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:53 (twenty years ago)

Phil should've stayed behind the drums and quit music when Peter Gabriel left Genesis.

Then the brilliant "A Trick Of The Tail" and "Wind And Wuthering" albums would never have happened.
(And as for his 80s solo work, it cannot compare to the brilliance of the 70s Genesis stuff, but it is at least a lot better than anything ever released in the hip-hop genre)

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:55 (twenty years ago)

Didn't Mixmag just have some NME indie band on the cover last week or did I imagine that thread?

jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:56 (twenty years ago)

Coldplay are hardly an "NME indie band" though.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:57 (twenty years ago)

This used to be a good thread.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 13:16 (twenty years ago)

That just doesn't count. When will a hip-hop band do a cover of "Clocks" that contain every single verse sung from the beginning to the end, containing absolutely no rap parts, and with a backing track containing all the chords of the original, over a straight 4/4-beat?

When will Coldplay, Travis, Keane cover rap songs while actually rapping instead of singing?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 13:18 (twenty years ago)

Probably never. Which is why there is no need for Mojo to cover hip-hop particularly much.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 17:02 (twenty years ago)

Coldplay are hardly an "NME indie band" though.

-- Geir Hongro

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jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 17:43 (twenty years ago)

xpost can a moderator replace the above long URL with this:
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meanwhile nominations are in for this year's MOJO Honours
http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/music/news/article570939.ece

The nominations

Best New Act

Corinne Bailey Rae

Guillemots

Amadou and Mariam

Teddy Thompson

Archie Bronson Outfit

The Raconteurs

Inspiration Award

Sparks

Johnny Cash

Buzzcocks

Paul Weller

The Fall

Icon

David Bowie

Scott Walker

Johnny Cash

Neil Young

Van Morrison

Songwriter Award

Joe Strummer

Richard Hawley

Nick Cave

Chrissie Hynde

Kate Bush

Catalogue Release of the Year

Johnny Cash: Legend

Talking Heads: Reissue Series

Orange Juice: The Glasgow School

Various: Anthems in Eden

Various: Strangely Strange But Oddly Normal

Jeff Wayne: War of the Worlds

Vision Award

Kraftwerk: Minimum-Maximum

Bob Dylan: No Direction Home

Ramones: The Story of the Ramones

Dig! [documentary on the Dandy Warhols and the Brian Jonestown Massacre]

The Flaming Lips: The Fearless Freaks

Mayor of the Sunset Strip [documentary on the history of fame]

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 11:27 (twenty years ago)

Archie Bronson Outfit for Bes Newcomer! Fuck Jack White. That guy from the Guillemots is so Chris Martin too

FACEBRACE (FACEBRACE), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 13:45 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

the stax CD comp that comes with the amy winehouse cover is pretty awesome.

the article about her is "okay" i felt bad for the writer cuz he was supposed to have a big interview with her than she has a meltdown and he's gotta do the story anyway.

i haven't read the stax feature but it will probably be cool cuz it's about stax.

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 14 January 2008 20:48 (eighteen years ago)

also had a buried treasure about some band called Home that was a weirdo/roots-rock/prog/concept album deal that featured cliff richard from AC/DC!

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 14 January 2008 20:49 (eighteen years ago)

Cliff WIlliams??

Bill Magill, Monday, 14 January 2008 20:56 (eighteen years ago)

duh haha yeah williams not the elvis of england dude

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 14 January 2008 20:56 (eighteen years ago)

Hahaha!

Myonga Vön Bontee, Monday, 14 January 2008 23:04 (eighteen years ago)

I thought you might have meant Cliff Burton.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 14 January 2008 23:23 (eighteen years ago)

I'm sorry, I'm off to the paralell universe that has Cliff Richard of AC/DC in it!

Mark G, Monday, 14 January 2008 23:46 (eighteen years ago)

Mojo is still a quality mag, but it's about time the CD coming with the mag contains some decent music soon.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 00:06 (eighteen years ago)

the free CD's with mojo are the best reason to buy it

Michael B, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 00:16 (eighteen years ago)

Actually they have done a pretty good historical job with those CDs lately. The only thing lacking now is that they choose some good genres to make CDs from. They write about a lot of great genres, so I am sure it'll happen...

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 00:20 (eighteen years ago)

i used to wonder what james brown had to do to get on the cover of mojo. apparently dying wasn't enough. when he was given the mojo honors lifetime achievement award, the cover went to jimmy page, winner of the far-more-coveted best dvd award.

Lawrence the Looter, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 03:27 (eighteen years ago)

The Heavy Nuggets thing is awesome. Thanks Mojo.

Bill Magill, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 14:59 (eighteen years ago)

Was that the one before the Amy Winehouse/Stax one?

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 15:11 (eighteen years ago)

yes.

Mark G, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 15:12 (eighteen years ago)


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