What's the best Genesis album?

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Is "I Know There's Something Going On" the same song that Frida did? I remember Phil Collins being on that album somewhere, but I thought maybe he played drums on it or something.

Pangolino 2, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 04:14 (twenty years ago)

I have a hard time accepting that anything they did could be as thrilling as Queen II

"The Musical Box"?

LC (Damian), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 06:54 (twenty years ago)

Phil Collins produced the Frida album, IIRC.

Joe (Joe), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 11:11 (twenty years ago)

"the musical box" is great. don't like it as much as "seven Seas" "ogre Battle" "Father to Son" or any number of tunes on QII.

veronica moser (veronica moser), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 12:40 (twenty years ago)

"The Musical Box" is a great composition that would have sounded even better if it was on one of their better produced albums such as "Selling England By The Pound" or "The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway". The production, and lack of synths, is my main problem about "Nursery Cryme".

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:37 (twenty years ago)

incidentally, said platinum collection doesn't include "man on the corner" and "No Reply at all"—disappointing! the latter is where you find Gentleman Mike Rutherford tearing it up on that big bassss. his finest moment!

his worst is his crap Keef pantomime on "I Can't Dance."

veronica moser (veronica moser), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:52 (twenty years ago)

There was only room for the singles from those 80s albums. While those two are among their best simple pop moments, I miss "Home By The Sea" and "Domino" considerably more. Two rare 80s moments of 70s greatness by Genesis.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:32 (twenty years ago)

the remastered/remixed songs from nursery cryme that are on the platinum collection sound much better than the last remaster of that album; not sure what is going on with releasing the full album versions of those (sounds like they are indefinitely stalled)

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 16:20 (twenty years ago)

actually, "home by the sea" parts 1 and 2 are included on the Platinum Collection. watch them facts, Mr. "I know everything about majestic white people music" guy!

not one person on this Earth would rather hear "Calling All Stations" from '97 than those aforementioned orphaned tunes.

or are you going to defend that tune, GH?

veronica moser (veronica moser), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 16:52 (twenty years ago)

Harold the Barrel is the most terrifyingly chilling song I have ever heard, I think. In my mind I can *see* him leaping off the building in excrutiating slow motion, so, so distinctly. Songs never give me visions this rich, ever.

Couple that with Hogweed and Seven Stones, and The Musical Box without the self-conscious middle bit, and you've got a magic run of songs.

Foxtrot hurts my brain. Apocalypse 9/8 sounds like primary school kids learning how to play their instruments.

Hotman Paris Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 3 June 2006 01:32 (twenty years ago)

three months pass...
The middle bit is the best thing about "The Musical Box".

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 14 September 2006 12:44 (nineteen years ago)

the best Genesis LP is Wendy & Bonnie's duh

zebedee (zebedee), Thursday, 14 September 2006 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

foxtrot

M@tt He1geson: Real Name, No Gimmicks (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 14 September 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

Finally jumping on here.

The Lamb, for me. Although I should give the other albums a chance.

So, all of the post Gabriel shit: DEFEND IT! Wind & Wuthering, Trick of the Tale... I asked Genesis fans about them, and they all say they are not bad but pale in comparison to everything The Lamb and before... and one friend said that Duke was the last Genesis album he didn't want to throw against the wall.

the dow nut industrial average dead joe mama besser (donut), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 04:38 (nineteen years ago)

"Wind & Wuthering" and "A Trick Of The Tail" are really, really, really great albums. It's more a matter of post-Hackett than post-Gabriel really (except "And Then There Were Three" and "Duke" are both excellent pop albums, with Tony Banks still at his songwriting best)

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 07:30 (nineteen years ago)

The middle bit is the best thing about "The Musical Box".

I think it is so good, with the fluid running synth lead etc, how it sets up the really tender "play me my song" return, which in turn sets up the huge, monolithic closing. Probably my favorite Genesis song.

a naked Kraken annoying Times Square tourists with an acoustic guitar (nickalici, Wednesday, 20 September 2006 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

Has anyone said "Calling All Stations" yet?

(That's a joke, son.)

Eazy-Esteban Buttez (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

"Calling All Stations" was a huge leap in the right direction from "We Can't Dance", and it might have been quite good with a decent vocalist.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

>Foxtrot hurts my brain. Apocalypse 9/8 sounds like primary
>school kids learning how to play their instruments.

This sounds like praise!


Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 23:42 (nineteen years ago)

That one that Geir Hongo likes.

M. V. (M.V.), Thursday, 21 September 2006 00:30 (nineteen years ago)

Wind & Wuthering, Trick of the Tale... I asked Genesis fans about them, and they all say they are not bad but pale in comparison to everything The Lamb and before...

W&W and Trick of the Tail are both pretty badass albums with few weak spots and are more 'economic' with regards to having none of Gabriel's penchant for running amuck lyrically (at the time), no impenetrable concepts and over-elaborate costumes...just solid writing and performances. Also, dare I say, Collins does a fantastic job as both drummer and vocalist.

Joe (Joe), Thursday, 21 September 2006 00:34 (nineteen years ago)

Also, dare I say, Collins does a fantastic job as both drummer and vocalist.

He usually does. And Genesis would have been a lasting quality band had he stuck to that, and kept himself away from involving too much in the songwriting.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 21 September 2006 00:42 (nineteen years ago)

Gabriel sorely needed an editor in the early days. He got better.

Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Thursday, 21 September 2006 03:17 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know that I'm willing to call Trick of the Tail my fave Genesis LP, but "Robbery, Assault and Battery" is probably my favorite Genesis song from either of the Gabriel or Collins eras.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 21 September 2006 06:55 (nineteen years ago)

Gabriel sorely needed an editor in the early days.

Ambition and indulgence should never be edited. Anyway, Tony Banks was always there, and was just as much of the musical genius Gabriel was. He sadly has lost it more than Gabriel has though.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 21 September 2006 08:38 (nineteen years ago)

Ambition and indulgence should never be edited.

Can't...quite...find...joke...

Everything Is Ill-Educated (noodle vague), Thursday, 21 September 2006 08:41 (nineteen years ago)

"Calling All Stations" was a huge leap in the right direction from "We Can't Dance", and it might have been quite good with a decent vocalist.

Uh, Geir...pretty much anything would have been a huge leap in the right direction from "We Can't Dance".

And honestly, Ray "Stiltskin" Wilson was a better singer than Phil Collins. Then again, you could select anyone off the street and nine times out of ten, they'd be better than Phil Collins.

Eazy-Esteban Buttez (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Thursday, 21 September 2006 10:37 (nineteen years ago)

six years pass...

Can I just get a gut check here - do you people like Wind and Wuthering, and if so, why? Why do so many progheads love this incredibly boring album? Or am I just not listening close enough?

frogbs, Friday, 1 February 2013 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

spent like a month last year getting acquainted with duke, abacab and the self-titled record all of which are AWESOME

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 1 February 2013 17:15 (thirteen years ago)

Foxtrot.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Friday, 1 February 2013 17:36 (thirteen years ago)

wind & wuthering is (a) mostly great (b) the perfect album to play on a cold dry windy morning

walloreinhart (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 1 February 2013 21:25 (thirteen years ago)

Foxtrot

Jaap and roids (NickB), Friday, 1 February 2013 21:34 (thirteen years ago)

trespass was killer when i heard it first, selling england by the pound was even greater especially that part in teh battle of epping forest where the music takes off, where it reaches this metaphysical plateau. this moment of bliss, which should last forever. but in the end nursery cryme is the one, i think. the lyric sheet with all those drawings. so english, so strange, so cruel.

miesepeter (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 1 February 2013 22:05 (thirteen years ago)

Selling England by the Pound. Before that I only really love one song per album ("Stagnation," "The Musical Box," "Supper's Ready").

jim, Friday, 1 February 2013 22:08 (thirteen years ago)

spent like a month last year getting acquainted with duke, abacab and the self-titled record all of which are AWESOME

cosign, this was a month well-spent

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 2 February 2013 01:47 (thirteen years ago)

nine months pass...

I think I was very wrong about Wind & Wuthering, which is IMO not as good as Trick of the Tail but I don't find it boring or aimless any more.

frogbs, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 16:53 (twelve years ago)

duke btw

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 November 2013 17:14 (twelve years ago)

Your Own Special Way is beyond pukey and the irredeemable ruination of that album imo

but my heart is full of woah (NickB), Tuesday, 19 November 2013 17:17 (twelve years ago)

W&W i mean. Still have a soft spot for Duke though, first Genesis record I bought

but my heart is full of woah (NickB), Tuesday, 19 November 2013 17:20 (twelve years ago)

That was Genesis in the era when they would regularly appear in lists of footballers' favourite music alongside the Police and jazz funk.

but my heart is full of woah (NickB), Tuesday, 19 November 2013 17:22 (twelve years ago)

three years pass...

Foxtrot > A Trick of the Tail > Duke > Selling England by the Pound > Nursery Cryme > Invisible Touch > And Then There Were Three > Wind & Wuthering > The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway > Abacab > Trespass > Genesis > We Can't Dance > Calling All Stations > From Genesis to Revelation

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 7 July 2017 20:02 (eight years ago)

*cracks knuckles* ok here we go

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 7 July 2017 20:16 (eight years ago)

abacab
wind & wuthering
the lamb lies down on broadway
duke
a trick of the tail
foxtrot
nursery cryme
genesis
selling england by the pound
and then there were three
invisible touch
trespass
we can't dance

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 7 July 2017 20:18 (eight years ago)

i feel like i'm underrating selling/attwt/invisible touch at the end there but i basically love all of those records except trespass (which is fine) and we can't dance (which is half great half horrible)

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 7 July 2017 20:19 (eight years ago)

wau @ Foxtrot so high.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 July 2017 20:23 (eight years ago)

man this would be so difficult, though I'm pretty sure Selling England is #1 and Calling all Stations is at the end of the list

frogbs, Friday, 7 July 2017 20:27 (eight years ago)

The first live one. Docked one point for leaving off Supper's Ready.

dinnerboat, Friday, 7 July 2017 20:54 (eight years ago)

wau @ Foxtrot so high.

― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, July 7, 2017 1:23 PM (thirty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's all great. ppl who think "time table" is weak need to get right

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 7 July 2017 20:57 (eight years ago)

'Time Table' is one of my favourites.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 7 July 2017 21:11 (eight years ago)

ecstatic you two have kissed and made up

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 July 2017 21:26 (eight years ago)


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