Also, the original b-side version of "I Want A Dog" on the "Rent" single is so infinitely superior to the Introspective version that it isn't even funny.
-- The Ghost of Dan Perry (djperr...), February 24th, 2005.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 18:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 18:33 (nineteen years ago) link
And I finally agree with Dan Perry about something! (Domino Dancing)
― the D Double signal (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 18:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― the D Double signal (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 18:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 18:36 (nineteen years ago) link
"Watch them all fall down" vs. "Put our problems all in a row/Watch them fall like dominoes"
― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 18:37 (nineteen years ago) link
Okay.
― the D Double signal (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 18:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 18:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 18:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 18:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 18:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 18:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 18:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 18:45 (nineteen years ago) link
Absolutely 100% OTM. My favourite song of all time.
― Palomino (Palomino), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 18:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 19:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 19:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 19:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 19:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 19:21 (nineteen years ago) link
... except that their comments are wholly unilluminating. I was so disappointed by the lack of insight offered by the dialogue. The Pet Shop Boys have probably the most interesting back-catalogue of singles and promo videos of any of their peers, and Chris Heath had a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to draw out the thoughts of Neil Tennant, one of the most intelligent and articulate pop stars of the twentieth century, on this treasure trove of finely-wrought picture and sound. Heath's commentary, however, rarely rises above the level of, "That's a nice hat you're wearing there, Chris."
As I listened and the words hit my ears / I cried sudden tears
― Palomino (Palomino), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 19:31 (nineteen years ago) link
"Domino Dancing" is easily one of my top 3 PSB tracks - my reasons for which are detailed on another thread. Please note that Dan tends to have excellent taste in artists, but then either loves or reviles random and/or odd tracks for reasons which escape me!
Also: Always thought Tennant's allusion to Edmund Wilson's To the Finland Station in "West End Girls" was dead cool as well.
This is actually a direct reference to Lenin's famous itinerary during WWI.
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 19:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 19:54 (nineteen years ago) link
Come on! It's worth it for Lowe's hat knowledge alone!
― Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 19:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 19:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 20:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 20:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 20:12 (nineteen years ago) link
And to answer the question, no. "Rent" is the best thing they've done.
― daria_g, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 20:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 20:32 (nineteen years ago) link
Sure, some of their conversation is entertaining. But almost none of it is insightful, which I found disappointing. They're very interesting people, and at its best, their work has been culturally significant. Chris Heath knows that, and I feel he should have tried to induce a more reflective or analytical mood for the voiceover session.Ah well. Screw art, let's dance.
― Palomino (Palomino), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 20:33 (nineteen years ago) link
WOW mine too!
I wonder how high it will rank in the 80s poll (if it ever happens).
― daavid (daavid), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 21:18 (nineteen years ago) link
The title of the book is as well. One in the same, Spence.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 21:20 (nineteen years ago) link
xpost
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 21:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 21:22 (nineteen years ago) link
A funny PSB story (also from my teenage years):
When I was a senior in high school, I got good enough grades to take classes at UCSC. I was a nice kid, but pretty clueless. So one day I'm riding the bus up to UCSC, with a PSB t-shirt on (the one with Neil holding a giant bundle of long-stemmed roses), and this guy starts chatting with me about what a big Pet Shop Boys fan he is, and how I should come over to his dorm room and check out his collection of rare B-sides, etc.
Needless to say, I was very excited. We made plans, and I ended up in his suite, listening to Pet Shop Boys records and tapes for a few hours, before heading back home. He seemed a little confused and annoyed when I left, but I thought nothing of it at the time, and we never hung out again.
It took me about 4 years before I realized what a clueless straight-boy I was.
My favorite PSB song is "Being Boring."
I remember hating West End Girls when it came out. I didn't come around until later.
And is there a thread for "Electronic," my favorite supergroup of all time?
― schwantz, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 21:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 21:33 (nineteen years ago) link
This is actually a direct reference to Lenin's famous itinerary during WWI. "
i always hoped it was a reference to finlandskii station in st petersburg. thanks for confirming!
― ambrose (ambrose), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 21:40 (nineteen years ago) link
Or rather, is there something about the song that leads you to believe this is a specific reference to the book, and not just to the historical event? Did the book 'popularize' the event?
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 22:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― daavid (daavid), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 22:14 (nineteen years ago) link
You may be on the money here, Spence. I was under the impression that it was the book that popularized the expression, but I might be entirely wrong.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 22:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:20 (nineteen years ago) link
Post- that release, probably lots that might be better. Their quality control seemed to go to shit & they became the joke that was always made about all their songs 'sounding the same'. They seemed to get lazy & much less inspired.
― little meh, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:43 (nineteen years ago) link
Sounded so clunky I remember though. It was like they ran out of gracefulness in musical and lyrical ideas really suddenly. Which was about the only thing that really saved them when paired with the thin and near-formulaic programming they had in their music.
― little meh, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― little meh, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:48 (nineteen years ago) link