― DG, Friday, 11 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Melissa W, Friday, 11 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
I still love the song though, only slightly only slightly less than I used to. The rest of the album I've not listened to since 98 or whenever it was: an interesting-on-paper-or-perhaps-not-even-that stab at marrying trip-hop and post-punk, but somehow already very much an artefact of its (Serious) times.
― Tom, Friday, 11 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― The Dirty Vicar, Friday, 11 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― marie, Friday, 11 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― fred solinger, Friday, 11 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
That said, I think the band has done some wonderful music, "protection" and "blue lines" the most memorable - and this albumn did them (musically at least) no shame.
― Ben, Thursday, 17 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― K-reg, Thursday, 17 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Sansai, Friday, 1 October 2004 22:15 (nineteen years ago) link
is the assumption then that there is an antiabortion message inherent in the song and the video?
― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 1 October 2004 22:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― still bevens (bscrubbins), Friday, 1 October 2004 22:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 2 October 2004 14:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Wooden (Wooden), Saturday, 2 October 2004 14:48 (nineteen years ago) link
you've got to back that up with something
― tricky disco (disco stu), Saturday, 2 October 2004 15:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 2 October 2004 15:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Wooden (Wooden), Saturday, 2 October 2004 15:53 (nineteen years ago) link
xpost:100th window is not dull at all. the album which caught best the dark and dense atmosphere in the beginning of last year before bush started his war. it's all about textures.
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Saturday, 2 October 2004 15:56 (nineteen years ago) link
I love love love the first track on 100th Window but then the rest of the album is a bit like a repeated, slightly less convincing re-iteration of that first track.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 2 October 2004 15:57 (nineteen years ago) link
If you only count the last album, then yes, I fully agree. But up until Mezzanine: classique. I don't think Mezzanine holds up as well as the previous ones, strangely/maybe because of the punk influence being a bit too overt. Or at least that's what my addled brain makes of it. :-)
― jesus nathalie (nathalie), Saturday, 2 October 2004 16:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Wooden (Wooden), Saturday, 2 October 2004 17:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― Wooden (Wooden), Saturday, 2 October 2004 17:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Saturday, 2 October 2004 17:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Wooden (Wooden), Saturday, 2 October 2004 18:35 (nineteen years ago) link
I like 100th Window; I never find the right time to listen to it, however, and as soon as I do, I'm sure it'll be one of my favourites.
― derrick (derrick), Saturday, 2 October 2004 18:45 (nineteen years ago) link
Too bad. Your loss, man!
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 2 October 2004 19:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 2 October 2004 19:39 (nineteen years ago) link
I've several Massive Attack live bootlegs that I play pretty often. They did a great extended Group Four when Mezzanine was current, very potent.
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 2 October 2004 22:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― paulhw (paulhw), Saturday, 2 October 2004 22:55 (nineteen years ago) link
-- latebloomer (posercore24...), October 2nd, 2004 8:35 PM.
I realise that texture is an extremely important factor in music, but if an artist concentrates solely on texture at the expense of other elements the music can slip very easily into self-indulgence in my opinion. That's all.
― Wooden (Wooden), Sunday, 3 October 2004 00:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Sunday, 3 October 2004 00:36 (nineteen years ago) link
best alex in mainhattan post ever!
― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Sunday, 3 October 2004 01:32 (nineteen years ago) link
The parrot's dead now, and I haven't played the album in years.
― Marcel Post (Marcel Post), Sunday, 3 October 2004 02:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 3 October 2004 10:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Baaderoni (Fabfunk), Sunday, 3 October 2004 10:26 (nineteen years ago) link
I love the first two as well. 100th Window is OK, but haven't listened to it much. Mezzanine may be darker, but I don't quite get the goth thing! It surprises me that the general feeling is that it's not up to scratch. I tend to think the first few tracks are the worst (overexposure most likely).
― Keith Watson (kmw), Sunday, 3 October 2004 10:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― derrick (derrick), Sunday, 3 October 2004 19:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sansai, Monday, 4 October 2004 00:25 (nineteen years ago) link
The first four tracks of Mezzanine are fucking incredible, really atmospheric and powerful and dynamic too, but after that I switch off completely.
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Monday, 4 October 2004 11:49 (nineteen years ago) link
to describe MA as 'dire and embarassing' makes no sense to me. Ronan's complaint seems to boil down to taking offence to them being labelled as dance music when you can't dance to it. if that's true then i agree it is stupid but you can hardly blame the band for this. one man's 90s is another man's heaven. one man's boring is another man's hypnotic/mesmeric/sublime/dreamnoize...
― Brigadier Rainham Steele, Mrs (blueski), Monday, 4 October 2004 11:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― Brigadier Rainham Steele, Mrs (blueski), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― Brigadier Rainham Steele, Mrs (blueski), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Brigadier Rainham Steele, Mrs (blueski), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 4 October 2004 13:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Monday, 4 October 2004 14:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Baaderoni (Fabfunk), Monday, 4 October 2004 14:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 4 October 2004 14:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― Baaderoni (Fabfunk), Monday, 4 October 2004 14:10 (nineteen years ago) link
Mezzanine is my fave too, and i loved the 1st 2 when they came out but this album is just perfect.
― Herman G. Neuname, Saturday, 19 July 2008 21:04 (fifteen years ago) link
1998
― am0n, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:43 (fourteen years ago) link
this version of teardrop with martina doing the singing is interesting becasue you can hear all the lyrics i'd never been able to work out the opening lines before:
"love, love is a verblove is a doing word."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK-m_gVcUZ8&feature=player_embedded#!
also the closing lyric seems to be "no [or you're] stumbling in the dark/ stumbling in the dark"
― jed_, Saturday, 17 July 2010 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link
i missed a full stop there after lyrics.
― jed_, Saturday, 17 July 2010 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link
cool find, i never knew what that last line was.
ugh this album is so good. i think my fav is "dissolved girl."
― teledyldonix, Sunday, 18 July 2010 22:56 (thirteen years ago) link
man "Teardrop"
― This beat is TWEENCHRONIC (DJP), Thursday, 21 February 2013 19:02 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.factmag.com/2013/11/01/massive-attack-may-release-mad-professors-lost-dub-version-of-mezzanine/
THIS HAS TO HAPPEN.
― CAROUSEL! CAROUSEL! (Telephone thing), Saturday, 2 November 2013 03:24 (ten years ago) link
they released one or two of the 'unreleased' ones via the web or exclusive mixes, iirc. so a fair number are out there...
― mh, Saturday, 2 November 2013 05:08 (ten years ago) link
https://pitchfork.com/news/massive-attack-reissue-mezzanine-as-dna-spray-paint-yes-you-read-that-correctly/
― Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Friday, 19 October 2018 14:29 (five years ago) link
Ah that's a bummer, US tour dates postponed, reschedule announcement next week for fall.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 March 2019 18:49 (five years ago) link
Friend saw them in London last week and said it was lifeless and pretty boring. Not sure what excuse they're using for postponing, but I wouldn't be surprised if these don't actually get rescheduled.
― brotherlovesdub, Friday, 8 March 2019 19:11 (five years ago) link
Huh. Guess we'll see.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 March 2019 19:29 (five years ago) link
Yeah my friend said it was dull as ditchwater.
― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Friday, 8 March 2019 20:00 (five years ago) link
Bummer. Sounded very exciting on paper
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 8 March 2019 20:34 (five years ago) link
i have not heard good things about this tour otherwise I might be trying to go
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 8 March 2019 20:47 (five years ago) link
massive attack have always been a big deception in concert. i saw them a couple of times in the early nineties and it was always dull. somehow their music is not made for live shows. i love the albums though even 100th window.
― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 9 March 2019 18:02 (five years ago) link
Ticket prices for DC were really high. Made me hesitant
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 9 March 2019 23:13 (five years ago) link
posts on facebook about the current north american tour thus far seem pretty positive?
I'll be heading out tomorrow night!
― untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, 9 September 2019 14:17 (four years ago) link
Yeah, the show here Saturday was, frankly, the best concert by anyone I've seen this year, and I did not expect to type that before seeing it. The posts just upthread, so not the case with what we experienced. My girlfriend's thoughts on it were more deep than I could convey and she's only shared them with a close circle, but I'll echo her in that it was an astoundingly good meditation on audience expectation, transforming the 'band plays classic album' approach, nostalgia in general and much more. Now granted, I've never fully dived into Adam Curtis's work, so what may seem truly striking to me when it came to their visuals may simply be run of the mill for others. But it was crucial to the whole experience, and the sense that it was being regularly updated too was key. Meantime, having never seen them live before either, this may also be their s.o.p., but their aggressively anti-star/showmanship approach worked a treat for me -- all the musicians lurking at the back of the stage, del Naja only coming up front for a few vocal turns, otherwise ceding the space to Horace Andy, Liz Fraser et al. (So wonderful to finally see him live, so great to finally see her again for the first time in 26 years.) No intros, no encores, but also, to expand on an earlier point, no simple playing through of the album at all -- I knew about the Bauhaus cover but none of the others, and it was a fascinating reclamation/reintepretation project with the resequenced album choices. I was properly amazed/amused by them actually playing "10:15 Saturday Night," then doing "Man Next Door" and not simply using the Cure sample but replicating it live at the slower pace. But the gut check time was the Pete Seeger cover and how it was used, staged and presented.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 9 September 2019 14:47 (four years ago) link
Wait, Liz is touring??? Oh brother, I'll be in the corner crying.
― Johnny Grottan from the Skeks Pistols (Leee), Monday, 9 September 2019 18:40 (four years ago) link
She sure is.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 9 September 2019 18:41 (four years ago) link
It was really good. the venue and the crowd were not. I had to retreat to the balcony to get away from apparently newly-returned burners who were pissing me off almost everywhere I went on the floor.
I liked the performance a whole lot, and I liked the films; but my wife didn't and I know some others who found them overly heavy-handed and obvious at times.
― akm, Monday, 9 September 2019 22:22 (four years ago) link
Venue was great, crowd was as well as could be expected in a near-stage general admission area, and the show was requisitely intense. The humorous bits of the visual play were a little less tongue-in-cheek and more blunt, and the harsh bits pretty harsh, but it gelled.
The ending with two displays on either side reminded me of an optometrist doing the “look to the center, can you see the figures to the top and bottom? And now?” Only it wasn’t letters or hands, but war and surveillance
Band and Liz were top notch!
― untuned mass damper (mh), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 04:57 (four years ago) link
why must the nyc show be on a thursday
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 11:15 (four years ago) link
oh shit, that's tonight? oh well.
I saw them on what most have been their previous tour and, like Kraftwerk live (and then some), it was much more impressive than I might have imagined. I want to say when I saw them the guest vocalists (like Fraser) appeared and disappeared as needed.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 12:00 (four years ago) link
― Johnny Grottan from the Skeks Pistols (Leee)
Saw them do this in London and definitely had moist eyes during Teardrop, appropriately.
― chap, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 12:19 (four years ago) link
so gutted to have missed this during their European tour
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 13:57 (four years ago) link
Also saw this last Saturday. Group Four was all time live with Liz. Holy shit guys
― octobeard, Friday, 13 September 2019 22:26 (four years ago) link
This was as good as something of this sort could be, imo. They sounded great, and despite the facile Banksyness of the visual/textual content it had a lot of poignant moments, like when Liz sang "Where Have All The Flowers Gone?" against a backdrop of war footage - I choked up. The Bauhaus cover was fabulous and exhilarating.
― Turangalila, Sunday, 22 September 2019 04:41 (four years ago) link
Wait Liz is singing Risingson?
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 22 September 2019 05:15 (four years ago) link
Nope.
― Turangalila, Sunday, 22 September 2019 05:30 (four years ago) link
Yeah just checked the setlist, she does a Pete Seeger cover then. It’s fucking awesome they’re doing covers of some of the samples within the album.
Is Bela Lugosi’s Dead sampled in Mezzanine?
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 22 September 2019 05:45 (four years ago) link
despite the facile Banksyness of the visual/textual content
Well, Banksy IS in the band
― Vinnie, Sunday, 22 September 2019 07:53 (four years ago) link
This was super good
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Sunday, 22 September 2019 15:01 (four years ago) link
feel like I short-changed Horace Andy who probably never needs the shout out, but deserves it
― mh, Monday, 23 September 2019 18:50 (four years ago) link
I... am not really sure whether I liked this or not. something wasn't totally clicking, and I'm not sure what -- it wasn't the visual (heavy-handed but I was more or less expecting it to be), I don't think it was the arrangements (although it was a bit disappointing dissolved girl was playback, and I... wouldn't necessarily have put "levels" on the setlist). the energy felt 75% maybe?
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Saturday, 28 September 2019 03:53 (four years ago) link
really what is the deal with the "levels" bit? does it make any sense at all in the context of the show
― ufo, Saturday, 28 September 2019 04:13 (four years ago) link
Katherine yeah, it didn't really hit for me either.
― lost IDM classics (lukas), Saturday, 28 September 2019 04:17 (four years ago) link
xp I assumed it was some sort of commentary on tim bergling's death, maybe?
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Saturday, 28 September 2019 04:18 (four years ago) link
Maybe just hard to live up to the imaginative world that the original audio conjures
― calstars, Saturday, 28 September 2019 04:25 (four years ago) link
yeah
― mookieproof, Saturday, 28 September 2019 04:37 (four years ago) link
If I’m lucky, I’ll see them with Liz Fraser tomorrow. She’s been performing with them a few times on this tour, apparently they do a mean Song to the Siren now
― Mule, Wednesday, 12 June 2024 11:15 (five days ago) link
oh WHAT - they're doing Song to the Siren now? I saw them in SF years ago pre-pandemic and that was NOT on the playlist!
― octobeard, Wednesday, 12 June 2024 19:28 (five days ago) link
Apparently they do. We’ll see tonight.
― Mule, Thursday, 13 June 2024 11:10 (four days ago) link
They did. Very stripped down, only Fraser and a guitarist. Fraser was great in general on the four or five songs she was on. They brought on Young Fathers too, for a few songs (which may have been Young Fathers’ songs, actually, I’m not sure. Good show overall, they seemed in decent shape. Heavy on Adam Curtisesque graphics, on which I guess ymmv. But I think it worked pretty well.
― Mule, Friday, 14 June 2024 06:03 (three days ago) link