― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― tonight is what it means to be young (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:54 (nineteen years ago) link
(yeow xp - "the last unicorn" - kenny loggins??)
― jones (actual), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ken L (Ken L), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ken L (Ken L), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― charltonlido (gareth), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:13 (nineteen years ago) link
Great choice. Love the drums on that one. My vote goes to "Love years coming" by Strawberry Children though.
― jazzhooligan, Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― J (Jay), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:35 (nineteen years ago) link
I've got the one-CD '70s collection _Archive_ and found it to be pretty hit-and-miss, so I didn't spring for the box set -- anyway, ifyou're looking for a less expensive intro to his records, you might try _Archive_.
― Jeff Wright (JeffW1858), Friday, 6 May 2005 00:49 (nineteen years ago) link
i've seen some heralds.
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:54 (nineteen years ago) link
So, Webb stacks up how, in everyone's opinion, I am wondering, against: Brian Wilson, Jobim, Bacharach, Randy Newman? Now me, I think Jobim is better than any of 'em.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:43 (nineteen years ago) link
bacharach obv. the much greater songwriter than webb or newman, which says nothing against webb or newman.
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― joseph (joseph), Friday, 6 May 2005 04:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Friday, 6 May 2005 09:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 6 May 2005 09:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― harveyw (harveyw), Friday, 6 May 2005 15:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 6 May 2005 15:34 (nineteen years ago) link
I have ...And Someone... which is quite a good overview of his best-known stuff, and Archive, on which I agree with Jeff that's it kind of meh (though "Piano" is one of his best "songwriters" songs). He didn't really develop his voice as a singer until later on. Ten Easy Pieces, in which he performs a lot of his more widely-known stuff mostly solo, is for the most part incredible — the version of "Galveston" that opens it is positively Schubert-ian in its conception and execution.
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 6 May 2005 16:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 6 May 2005 16:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 6 May 2005 16:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 6 May 2005 17:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 6 May 2005 17:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 6 May 2005 17:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 6 May 2005 18:52 (nineteen years ago) link
i really love comparing the george martin-produced "the highwayman" to the version by the highwaymen - you get candy-coated strings with martin, and that 80's country drum sound with messrs. cash, jennings, kristofferson and nelson....
― j fail (cenotaph), Monday, 9 May 2005 16:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 00:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― terry lennox. (gareth), Friday, 25 November 2005 20:32 (eighteen years ago) link
http://image.com.com/mp3/images/cover/200/drf300/f383/f38380r9k0d.jpg
― the jews (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 25 November 2005 20:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 25 November 2005 22:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Friday, 25 November 2005 22:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 26 November 2005 00:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Saturday, 26 November 2005 06:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― A Study In Redd Scharlach (Ken L), Monday, 19 June 2006 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link
― musically (musically), Monday, 19 June 2006 19:46 (seventeen years ago) link
Pretty sure it's him -- Jimmy liked to go by "Jim" for a bit in the 70's, and that's his scene.
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― Cunga, Friday, 23 February 2007 05:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― henry s, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― accentmonkey, Saturday, 24 February 2007 11:06 (seventeen years ago) link
― t**t, Saturday, 24 February 2007 12:59 (seventeen years ago) link
― t**t, Sunday, 25 February 2007 15:03 (seventeen years ago) link
that glen campbell youtube of him doing wichita lineman in '07 (?) is great. nice guitar solo by glen. although, i hate to say this but... did glen have a stroke? his voice has that oddly clenched quality you sometimes hear in the speech of people who have suffered from strokes.
the comments (all 300+ of them!) on that youtube are funny. though, i must say, nostalgia is a fucking disease. dig:
I am 40-year-old mother of 4 and I was raised on this beautiful music...memories of how it used to be. Such a good simple time..no cell phones, no ipods, no remote controls, no cable...only HeeHaw on Saturday evenings and my dad cooking dinner. Wish my kids could go back in time and experience this wonderful time.
ah yes, the "simple" times of the mid-1970s....
― figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Sunday, 3 January 2010 06:06 (fourteen years ago) link
S. Macarthur Park by Donna summer, Tony Christie, Four tops, Vic damone, Waylon Jennings, Grimethorpe colliery band. Wicheta Lineman, By the time I get to Phoenix, Galveston, Up, up and away. Both fifth dimension albums (esp paper cup, carpet man but most of the others too) , If you see me getting smaller I'm leaving, both Richard Harris albums (the yard went on forever and the aforementioned Macarthur park), loads of other great Glen Campbell stuff (check out the two early 70's albums for some hidden gems) Quite a few of his solo albums right up until the mid/late 70's have songs of real merit. Loads of other great stuff...Sinatra did some great versions of his songs, as did fellow genius Neil Sedaka. Glen Gregory does a pretty good version of Wichita lineman, as do, bizarely, the Kings singers, also, David Snell from his album, Harp transplant and Johnny Harris from his album, Movements although both are very hard to find. John Denvers version of By the time I get to Phoenix is better than you'd think, Isaak Hayes version is barely recognisable but superb and Kurt Edelhagen's version is odd but haunting and actually changes the song radically while still keeping its essence. D. Very little really...some of the 80's stuff is a bit iffie and the general rule of thumb is to avoid anything by artists you already hate. The Mantovani version of Macarthur park is grim, as is the Nina version of Phoenix from her golden hour album.
I've got over 300 different versions of Jimmy Webb tracks on all formats so I guess you could call me a fan!
He's a genius...simple as that. If pop is slowly eating itself, Jimmy Webb (or the best part of him) remains at the back of the freezer, yet to be discovered and devoured...
― Kris England, Thursday, 5 May 2005 19:35 (4 years ago) Permalink
This was me years ago and I still love Jimmy Webb.
12 Easy Pieces is great and the Jools Holland live performances which are on Youtube are well worth a watch. So fragile, it seems the songs are going to collapse completely at any time but they never do.
― The Broken Brothers, Sunday, 3 January 2010 12:29 (fourteen years ago) link
Love how Richard Harris always addressed him as "Jimmy Webb."
― henry s, Saturday, 15 August 2020 16:52 (three years ago) link
happy birthday, jimmy webb
the richard harris story is great
― budo jeru, Sunday, 16 August 2020 02:54 (three years ago) link
jfc at that last paragraph
― unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Sunday, 16 August 2020 15:57 (three years ago) link
Here is a fact I learned from Gergely Hubai's book on rejected film scores, "Torn Music":
Jimmy Webb was originally contracted to write the soundtrack to "Love Story". What he turned in featured a composition for oscillator-repitched car horns. They decided not to go with it.
He later reused the recording as the intro to "Music for an Unmade Movie: Songseller".
― Kate (rushomancy), Sunday, 16 August 2020 16:50 (three years ago) link
scary revive
― unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Saturday, 15 August 2020 01:08 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
Whenever I see an old artist thread revived, I assume they’ve either died or been accused of sexual misconduct. Glad to see Jimmy fits neither category.
― Dan Worsley, Sunday, 16 August 2020 17:01 (three years ago) link
re: that last one... umhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jimmy_Webb&oldid=971178788#Relationships_and_family
― really looking forward to wearily scrolling past all your posts (Champiness), Sunday, 16 August 2020 17:43 (three years ago) link
I keep finding myself saying "well that all sounds about right" in response to some really gross stuff which is probably insensitive, but, well that all sounds about right
― unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Sunday, 16 August 2020 18:49 (three years ago) link
Um indeed.
― Dan Worsley, Sunday, 16 August 2020 18:51 (three years ago) link
Well, it was the 60s and 70s...
― Jamie Hartigan, Sunday, 16 August 2020 23:38 (three years ago) link
"Up, Up and Away" creepy af now with that knowledge
― popeye's arse (Neanderthal), Sunday, 16 August 2020 23:41 (three years ago) link
I've theorised in my head before about the meaning of that song, knowing about his history with marijuana. I decided to stop thinking about it that way though, because I realised it's supposed to be perceived as a soul-pop feelgood song and not a drugs song about a guy getting high.
― Jamie Hartigan, Monday, 17 August 2020 00:02 (three years ago) link
I have a server on Discord for discussions about Jimmy Webb. I'll leave the invite here in case anyone wants to join. https://discord.gg/dst3AWC
― Jamie Hartigan, Monday, 17 August 2020 13:37 (three years ago) link
Another good Jimmy Webb song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OitDIBHO0ew
― Jamie Hartigan, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 21:11 (three years ago) link
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725709361455956010/725709642176659486/webb-campbell-nilsson.jpg
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 19 August 2020 02:19 (three years ago) link
I, for one, would love to know what Harry was going on about here.
They all look like they're about to hop into a Cadillac and head out to Malibu to teach that nosey Jim Rockford a lesson.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 19 August 2020 02:28 (three years ago) link
Lol.
― Isinglass Ponys (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 August 2020 02:38 (three years ago) link
lmao
― Jamie Hartigan, Thursday, 20 August 2020 15:54 (three years ago) link
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5oAh4CbpvjgGAoWVVfwdf8?si=998NIcpsTcW_3lOcBXAMGw
― Jamie Hartigan, Thursday, 20 August 2020 20:05 (three years ago) link
I don't know how many of you use Spotify, but tell me what you think of my choices.
― Jamie Hartigan, Thursday, 20 August 2020 20:06 (three years ago) link
Another good song written by Jimmy herehttps://youtu.be/CFq8RnPiM6Q
― Jamie Hartigan, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 19:31 (three years ago) link
I think this place is dead again...
― Jamie Hartigan, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 14:36 (three years ago) link
I love "Saturday Suit" but I think I'd take Art Garfunkel's breezy melancholia over Cass's, which (though still vg obv) feels a bit overdone by comparison. I am always a sucker for an electric piano.
― Tim, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 14:46 (three years ago) link
Yeah that version is great. I just thought I'd share Cass Elliot's version because of how underrated/unknown it is.
― Jamie Hartigan, Thursday, 3 September 2020 16:29 (three years ago) link
Oh yeah, I was very pleased to hear that version, I didn’t know it existed.
― Tim, Thursday, 3 September 2020 16:40 (three years ago) link
Jamie, your solo Webb playlist is really nice, with just a couple of glaring omissions. I would have included "Met Her On a Plane" from And So: On, which I think is an utterly perfect recording of one of the greatest psychedelic country songs--the truest "Cosmic American Music" by anyone not named Gene Clark. I also would add "Crying In My Sleep" from Land's End (his best album imo). It definitely goes hand in hand with "Just This One Time" from the same album--sad-bastard music par excellence, with some of his most emotional vocal performances.
I'm glad you included so many tracks from Suspending Disbelief, which is one of the only Webb albums I'm not familiar with, along with Angel Heart. I'm really digging it so far. Any thoughts on Angel Heart? Looks like the only album not represented on your playlist.
One fun thing about Jimmy Webb albums from the 70s is that they're full of amazing industry-clout flexes, despite their utter commercial failure. Like, "NBD, just having Joni Mitchell sing backup on a few songs, getting my buddy George Martin to produce" lol.
― J. Sam, Thursday, 3 September 2020 17:55 (three years ago) link
I'm glad you looked at it! I didn't add "Met Her On A Plane" because I was never really that fond of the vocals and humming in it. I just thought it was a bit exaggerated. I see why it can be much liked though; the lyrics are very poetic and the piano is really nice. "Crying In My Sleep" I never really grew to love that song because to me it feels slightly self-pitying, but I guess we all look at lyrics differently. And I think "Just This One Time" has to be one of his most powerful songs.Suspending Disbelief is one of my favourite Webb albums. The production is amazing (thanks to George Massenburg and Linda Ronstadt) and the song lyrics are so meaningful. It shows just how much Jimmy had grown as a songwriter at that point and how well he can connect with listeners through music.Angel Heart, on the other hand, has some really drawn-out and tiring songs on it. At least the first 2 times I listened to Angel Heart all the way through I was zoned out for half the time. I haven't really analysed the lyrics in the songs yet though, and that might change my opinion in the future.Again, thanks for responding. I might change the playlist around if my taste changes and I start discovering more tracks I like.And yeah, he was very all-in in the 70s lmao. Did you know he had Ringo Starr and Elton John's backing band accompanying him on his album Land's End?
― Jamie Hartigan, Saturday, 5 September 2020 00:13 (three years ago) link
Sorry for the late response, I don't really use this website.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB81zWfxZGsThe band in this is amazing.
― Jamie Hartigan, Thursday, 10 September 2020 19:31 (three years ago) link
I've had 5:30 Plane stuck in my head all day. Such a good song.
― Jamie Hartigan, Sunday, 13 September 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link
Wichita Lineman is the song of his i love most
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 13 September 2020 17:59 (three years ago) link
I still have problems with Webb as a solo artist in the 70s but I’m listening to this playlist and liking it. Some funny things I’m observing: both And So: On tracks are ... kind of wild jammy guitar fests? I somehow never noticed this. Meanwhile, the production on the Land’s End tunes is kind of typical 70s but for some reason the tom toms are positively thunderous (I still can’t get with his vocal on ”Just This One Time,” it’s way outside his range – unfortunately I find Glen Campbell’s version on Reunion weirdly bombastic). “Where the Universes Are” I didn’t really know, great tune. There’s always a good excuse to share my favorite version of P.F. Sloan, the Cassell Webb version from the late 80s: https://youtu.be/Y8cBEZG0S7QThe chorused (Dean Parks?) guitar and slapping backbeat on “Too Young To Die” are kind of shocking when they first hit. This is a great example of how he grew into his voice. Tales from the Crypt, LOL (actually, a pretty good instrumental!)Paul Gaugin in the South Seas – I’ve never heard this. Wow. Thanks for sharing!
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 17 September 2020 11:28 (three years ago) link
If you like the Clientele then you'll like their version of "Where The Universes Are", which sounds just like The Clientele.
https://mergerecords.bandcamp.com/track/where-the-universes-are
― Tim, Thursday, 17 September 2020 15:37 (three years ago) link
https://genius.com/Jimmy-webb-old-wing-mouth-lyrics
Okay I found a song on the Angel Heart album that I actually like! Very true message to this and I recommend looking into this.
― Jamie Hartigan, Saturday, 10 October 2020 19:52 (three years ago) link
Another very underrated Webb song, sung by Mary Kent.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_oYv4eyWCo
― Jamie Hartigan, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 17:03 (three years ago) link
Yup, best song on that record by a mile. Great backing vocals from McDonald and Loggins too.
― aphoristical, Thursday, 5 November 2020 01:38 (three years ago) link
What do you all think of Jimmy's The Naked Ape soundtrack album? I've heard the movie's not that great but I think the music is great.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5WXAUcAUrc
― Jamie Hartigan, Friday, 30 July 2021 13:13 (two years ago) link
Does this link work for anyone? http://dianyingxin.com/watch/zd-acApBrfA?fbclid=IwAR2fO0b7fkJr0YFzijpHA1zPqJXRZUF9oFUq7nS8MGi6Q2Kb74FX03KA33gIt's supposed to include Jimmy singing Didn't We with K.T. Oslin in 1993 (according to Jimmy's Facebook page), but the link doesn't work for me. If anyone could maybe convert it to .mp4 and send it here, or reupload it to YouTube, I would really appreciate it.
― Jamie Hartigan, Sunday, 1 August 2021 14:00 (two years ago) link
I have to admit some of the stuff I’ve read about Jimmy’s personal life is pretty disturbing. I saw a few years ago that Sally Field discussed how he forced himself on her when she was passed out one time. But I just discovered that his first wife was a cover girl he met when she was 12 and married her where she was 16 or 17 and pregnant. And despite being married for 22 years he didn’t mention her in his memoir. Yes it was the 60s and 70s and kill yr idols and all but this all bums me out.
― Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 16 October 2022 13:55 (one year ago) link
Yes, I knew there was something a bit weird about his marriage but I couldn't remember what it was. A stalker-ish obsession with an ex-girlfriend seems to be present in a lot of his 60s songs.
― Fronted by a bearded Phil Collins (Tom D.), Sunday, 16 October 2022 14:12 (one year ago) link
I did a high school student exchange with one of his kids. He was never around and I never met him but I visibly remember the dark cloud that passed over people’s faces when his name was mentioned.
I love this cover:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81pP7zCMgI8
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 16 October 2022 19:46 (one year ago) link
Wait, so you are saying you stayed in his kid’s room? In the house of his ex-wife?
― We Have Never Been Secondary Modern (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 16 October 2022 19:57 (one year ago) link
Ooooh, had never read about his dark cloud personal life aspects before
― curmudgeon, Monday, 17 October 2022 12:00 (one year ago) link
xpost I guess so? I wasn’t aware he had a famous dad at the time but put it together later
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 17 October 2022 12:11 (one year ago) link
Def changes that Gaughin tribute on that 10's album of his for me.
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 17 October 2022 13:16 (one year ago) link