Yeah, the intro to "Part Company" is like Seals and Crofts play Television.
― Tim, Thursday, 21 July 2016 15:34 (nine years ago)
I'm definitely looking forward to reading that!
― the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Thursday, 21 July 2016 18:06 (nine years ago)
Review of Forster's memoir:
The heart of the book, though, is about a close friendship with someone who remained unknowable: a “naive boy” who kept a close watch on his inner life, only to pour it out in songs such as the revered Cattle and Cane and its companion, Dusty in Here. Both songs reference McLennan’s father, who died when he was six. Yet as Grant & I (and the band’s career) unfurls, McLennan recedes; as his friendship with Forster is attenuated to a few words or glances, it’s easy to lose sight of him.
And in this, there is an omission. The shadow of heroin hangs over this book, but we don’t know of it until Forster drops the bombshell of his own diagnosis with hepatitis C, a likely consequence of his own dabbling with the drug. It’s well known in rock circles that McLennan was a long-term user; Steve Kilbey’s book Something Quite Peculiar speaks bitterly of McLennan introducing him to opiates, and the journalist Clinton Walker has also written of his habit.
https://www.theguardian.com/music/australia-books-blog/2016/aug/29/grant-i-review-the-go-betweens-robert-forster-grant-mclennan-moving-definitive-portrait
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 14:10 (nine years ago)
ha, Lindy pops up the comments there ... knew of mclennan's heroin habits, didn't know of forster's ... seems it was really a big part of the aussie music scene in the 80s.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 14:13 (nine years ago)
Thanks for a reminder that this book is coming out.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 14:15 (nine years ago)
That photo there sure captures a divide -- the 'regular' McLennan, Forster going for the alien sculpted beauty look.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 15:41 (nine years ago)
love goes on anyway
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 15:42 (nine years ago)
Lindy's comment is definitely the clearest I've seen regarding that whole legal tangle.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 15:46 (nine years ago)
love how she wouldn't name them, just used "the songwriters"
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 15:52 (nine years ago)
yeah it's a bummer they still haven't really buried the hatchet (though maybe there's not outright animosity). though it was obviously mclennan/forster focused, it is impossible to imagine the bulk of the GB's best stuff w/o morrison.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 15:57 (nine years ago)
Yeah, harsh, but she says no ill will.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 15:57 (nine years ago)
still think "twin layers of lightning" (which i think is about forster/morrison's relationship) is one of the best/weirdest love songs.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 15:59 (nine years ago)
On how many GBs tracks was Lindy replaced by a drum machine? "Bachelor Kisses"?
― Edd Hurt, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 20:09 (nine years ago)
That early?
― BIG RICH aka the steampunk: End of the Century POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 20:11 (nine years ago)
And what other pop star has written as well as Forster? Caetano Veloso? Scott Miller?
― Edd Hurt, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 20:12 (nine years ago)
Johnny Mercer
― Planking Full Stop (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 20:56 (nine years ago)
xpost Do you mean prose?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 21:02 (nine years ago)
In that case, Chico Buarque.
― Planking Full Stop (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 21:06 (nine years ago)
And what's-his-name, our own Chachi Loves Aerosmith, apparently, although I personally have not read yet
― Planking Full Stop (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 21:08 (nine years ago)
Prose, yeah. I haven't read Buarque...
― Edd Hurt, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 21:10 (nine years ago)
Chuck BerryDean Wareham
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 21:10 (nine years ago)
Keen to get the book, curious if the second and third box sets are still happening/progressing.
― michaellambert, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 21:17 (nine years ago)
anyone seen the film?
https://vimeo.com/243460646
― piscesx, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 22:22 (eight years ago)
I liked it a lot.A genuinely odd cast of characters they were. Not odd like Klaus Nomi or GG Allin, but subtly off. That def comes across.Lots of genuine warmth (particularly in the direction of GM from RF) and a real awareness of what they actually were.
I found it kinda beautiful.
― mr.raffles, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 22:53 (eight years ago)
i wish it was twice as long.
― nerve_pylon, Thursday, 11 January 2018 00:40 (eight years ago)
the Forster book is among the best rock memoirs I've read.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 January 2018 00:42 (eight years ago)
Been reading some of Robert's stuff in The 10 Rules of Rock and Roll and finding it pretty well written so based on that and positive reviews by the likes of Alfie and a writer in the Grauniad I think I am going to have to buy it.
― Before Hollywood Swing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 11 January 2018 00:57 (eight years ago)
Second “it” meaning the memoir
― Before Hollywood Swing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 11 January 2018 01:01 (eight years ago)
Don't call me Alfie, please.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 January 2018 01:03 (eight years ago)
So sorry. I thought I saw someone else do it, but perhaps they were referring to another poster who actually went by that name.
― Before Hollywood Swing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 11 January 2018 01:09 (eight years ago)
Might also have been subconscious effect of watching Jeopardy! with the Redd family and seeing a question about Maurice Micklewhite.
― Before Hollywood Swing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 11 January 2018 01:19 (eight years ago)
it's all good!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 January 2018 01:20 (eight years ago)
Was wondering if albums had even been polled and found that this was the relevant thread Best Go-Betweens Album, which contains as a bonus a link to your piece about Spring Hill Fair
― Before Hollywood Swing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 11 January 2018 01:30 (eight years ago)
Thanks! And here's yet another good Go-Bets thread. For instance, you might (and well you might) scroll down to May 2015, where the links that I posted back then and just now checked still work, though haven't yet tried 'em all; quite a few are on that doomandgloomfromthetomb page I started with (thanks for those, tyler):The Go-Betweens - POX or CDR
― dow, Thursday, 11 January 2018 02:51 (eight years ago)
Thanks. Been randomly listening to the catalog today, both group and solo. Right now totally digging The Evangelist.
― Before Hollywood Swing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 11 January 2018 03:29 (eight years ago)
What is weird electro-noise which arrives with first chorus of Part Company that sounds like a cross between a theremin and a hissing radiator?
― Before Hollywood Swing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 12 January 2018 03:43 (eight years ago)
That's the instrumental element which most haunted me; it sounded like a tea kettle.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 January 2018 03:45 (eight years ago)
And RF doesn’t give the secret away in Grant & I?
― Before Hollywood Swing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 12 January 2018 03:48 (eight years ago)
He gives away too many secrets about McLennan.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 January 2018 03:51 (eight years ago)
I think that's Jacques Loussier on a Prophet 5.
― Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Friday, 12 January 2018 11:55 (eight years ago)
Has anyone heard anything as to whether the second box set is still happening?
― michaellambert, Friday, 12 January 2018 14:14 (eight years ago)
the door is open wide!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBDe9BGNBnM
― scott seward, Friday, 12 January 2018 15:15 (eight years ago)
Best use of oboe in pop music?
― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 12 January 2018 19:07 (eight years ago)
Yep! I've said so.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 January 2018 19:10 (eight years ago)
only Roxy comes close ("Out of the Blue," "Nightingale").
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 January 2018 19:11 (eight years ago)
but what about "Crazy For You"!??? (just kidding, "bye bye pride" is the best use of oboe in pop music)
― tylerw, Friday, 12 January 2018 19:17 (eight years ago)
Nightswimming is pretty great but this makes me want to dance in the street with strangers.
― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 12 January 2018 19:26 (eight years ago)
amanda brown guested with R.E.M. a couple times right? Maybe she was playing violin there ...
― tylerw, Friday, 12 January 2018 19:37 (eight years ago)
does the cor anglais in "life in a northern town" count as as an oboe? judges?
― scott seward, Friday, 12 January 2018 19:41 (eight years ago)
what a song
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Saturday, 13 January 2018 10:04 (eight years ago)