It’s early 1975, and Brian Eno strains to hear the recording of 18th century harp music a friend has given him.
Eno is in recovery after being hit by a car and can barely get out of bed. After putting the record on with great difficulty and lying back down, he notices the volume is too low, and that one channel on his stereo is blown.
The sheer pain of moving forces him to listen to the record at a volume that barely eclipses the background sound of the room around it.
― Dan is a #VegetablePuppet, he is NOT REAL. #flatearth (Dan Peterson), Friday, 1 July 2016 17:17 (eight years ago) link
eno talked about he loved him madly in the On Land liners:
When I was in Ghana, for instance, I took with me a stereo microphone and a cassette recorder, ostensibly to record indigenous music and speech patterns. What I sometimes found myself doing instead was sitting out on the patio in the evenings with the microphone placed to pick up the widest possible catchment of ambient sounds from all directions, and listening to the result on my headphones. The effect of this simple technological system was to cluster all the disparate sounds into one aural frame; they became music.
Listening this way, I realised I had been moving towards a music that had this feeling; as the listener, I wanted to be situated inside a large field of loosely-knit sound, rather than placed before a tightly organised monolith (or stereolith, for that matter). I wanted to open out the aural field, to put much of the sound a considerable distance from the listener (even locating some of it “out of earshot”), and to allow the sounds to live their lives separately from one another, clustering occasionally but not “musically” bound together. This gave rise to an interesting technical difficulty. Because recording studio technology and practice developed in relation to performed music, the trend of that development has been towards greater proximity, tighter and more coherent meshing of sounds with one another. Shortly after I returned from Ghana, Robert Quine gave me a copy of Miles Davis’ “He Loved Him Madly”. Teo Macero’s revolutionary production on that piece seemed to me to have the “spacious” quality I was after, and like “Amarcord”, it too became a touchstone to which I returned frequently.
― tylerw, Friday, 1 July 2016 17:26 (eight years ago) link
Always thought Talk Talk's last two albums have a heavy In A Silent Way vibe.
And then there's this... incredible Finnish spiritual jazz from the early 80s.
https://soundcloud.com/arclighteditions/jone-takamaki-trio-bhupala-i-ale003
― Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Friday, 1 July 2016 18:12 (eight years ago) link
was he talking about the fellini movie there or referencing some piece of music I'm unaware of?
― akm, Friday, 1 July 2016 18:15 (eight years ago) link
yeah the fellini film In using the term landscape I am thinking of places, times, climates and the moods that they evoke. And of expanded moments of memory too… One of the inspirations for this record was Fellini’s “Amarcord” (“I Remember”), a presumably unfaithful reconstruction of childhood moments. Watching that film, I imagined an aural counterpart to it, and that became one of the threads woven into the fabric of the music.here's the whole essay: http://rootstrata.com/rootblog/?p=614
― tylerw, Friday, 1 July 2016 18:29 (eight years ago) link
this year's "blackened cities" by melanie de biasio definitely has that sound going on.
― the event dynamics of power asynchrony (rushomancy), Saturday, 2 July 2016 02:48 (eight years ago) link
This thread is livid with great recommendations - cheers for the de Biasio heads up rushomancy, great stuff.
― Sunn O))) Brother Where Art Thou? (Chinaski), Saturday, 2 July 2016 08:45 (eight years ago) link
8 years and no mention of Les McCann's Invitation to Openness?! It kind of slips into a Silent Way parody at times but it's a lovely warm listen,
― Sunn O))) Brother Where Art Thou? (Chinaski), Friday, July 1, 2016 12:17 AM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this rules
― brimstead, Saturday, 21 October 2017 00:47 (six years ago) link
wendell harrison's "an evening with the devil" (1972) definitely belongs here. check the passage that kicks in around 6 minutes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTEVljdZnHY
a lot of don cherry's '70s stuff fits here, too. particularly the passage that begins about 3 minutes into "chenrezig" from the "brown rice" album:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS8PK53DYGA
and also pretty much the entire terry riley / don cherry collaboration from 1975. cherry's horn comes in at around 3m40s and it is wonderful:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6449e2LsUI
and then also maybe some of that later bill dixon stuff where he's sort of doing this drone thing and there's a lot of reverb.
and the last track on this chico freeman record. starts around 30 minutes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0hESHyPZI0
― budo jeru, Friday, 27 October 2017 04:08 (six years ago) link
several of the tracks on Big Fun remind me of IASW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UT3qeqzejI
― Brad C., Friday, 27 October 2017 12:52 (six years ago) link
Recollections (from the extended version is a reworking of Ssh/Peaceful, innit? Either way, it's a miracle.
― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 27 October 2017 13:29 (six years ago) link
i stupidly have never checked out Big Fun because I figured it'd be full of the harsh side of things, i'm one of those sad folks who can't really hang with super-out-there 70s miles
― brimstead, Friday, 27 October 2017 15:41 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hL_7b1sf-k
― DPRK Nowitzki (lpz), Friday, 27 October 2017 16:11 (six years ago) link
No, it's exactly the opposite, except for "Go Ahead John." The other tracks are all on the In a Silent Way/Side Two-of-A Tribute to Jack Johnson spectrum. "Ife" is practically ambient dub.
― grawlix (unperson), Friday, 27 October 2017 16:46 (six years ago) link
yeah — the wild/intense stuff is maybe what's best known from Miles' 1970s, but even things like Agharta have moments that are just beautiful.
― tylerw, Friday, 27 October 2017 16:49 (six years ago) link
right on! i'll check it out tonight
yeah tbh i've meant to dig into the other stuff, it just all seems so daunting and massive.
― brimstead, Friday, 27 October 2017 16:58 (six years ago) link
yeah, not to say there isn't plenty of "out" playing and general freakiness, but especially in 74-75, I've found a bunch of subtler/gentler stuff creeping into the live shows.
― tylerw, Friday, 27 October 2017 17:08 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnnBifdSbqA
― DPRK Nowitzki (lpz), Friday, 27 October 2017 17:29 (six years ago) link
^ Oof, tasty. Kind of Sextant + IASW, in 15/8/time!
This Circle feat. Verde album sounds like a meditation on IASW.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEnzGI_vXBQ
― Noel Emits, Friday, 27 October 2017 17:46 (six years ago) link
Heard Freddie Hubbard's Red Clay for the first time last night through a friend's really nice sound system, and it was spectacular and in a similarly silent way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT9aGUom3Bk
― ... (Eazy), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 19:04 (six years ago) link
I really like the version of that song on the CTI Allstars California concert lp played by the stripped down band Freddie Hubbard (trumpet), Stanley Turrentine (tenor saxophone), George Benson (guitar), Johnny Hammond (keyboards), Ron Carter (upright bass), Billy Cobham (drums), Airto Moreira (percussion).
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 20:34 (six years ago) link
Title track of Red Clay is still one of my fave CTI jams
― doug watson, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 21:06 (six years ago) link
A friend gave me Red Clay on vinyl a few years back; I played it once and filed it away. I'm listening to it now via the link above and it's better than I remember. Doesn't have IASW's languid spaciness, though.
― Supporters Fear Dan's Post Will Lack The Edge They Love (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 21:34 (six years ago) link
that mal waldron track upthread is radical. annoying that copies of that record are so pricey (appears to be on spotify though).
― tylerw, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 22:13 (six years ago) link
was gonna mention that julian priester "love,love" embedded above - what an extraordinary cut (side one esp but both are huge)
― umsworth (emsworth), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 00:38 (six years ago) link
The Call by Mal Waldron is so excellent, and I think sadly it's his only material where he plays electric piano.
― calzino, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 00:42 (six years ago) link
If anyone needs another hot version of Red Clay (and truthfully they're all pretty hot) - Freddie & Joe Henderson guest on Charles Earland's 'Leaving This Planet' and it rips. About a decade later there's a Hubbard LP titled Classics that has Henderson again along with Bobby Hutcherson and it's choice. Well worth seeking.
As for the thread topic I would second The Jewel In The Lotus. Just a great, great record.
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 02:57 (six years ago) link
Red Clay and Straight Life are both excellent albums; so is Stanley Turrentine's Sugar, which also has Hubbard, Benson, and Carter, plus Lonnie Liston Smith on keyboards.
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 03:10 (six years ago) link
damn is there a CTI thread? every time I get a CTI rec it sends me down a smooth, big budget rabbit hole
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 03:12 (six years ago) link
This whole album is beautiful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huurRUUBl7M
― DPRK Nowitzki (EMEL), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 18:14 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgGaxJ3glLo
― DPRK Nowitzki (EMEL), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 18:16 (six years ago) link
Think Benny Maupin's "Jewel in the Lotus" is pretty reminiscent and has other Miles veterans besides himself playing on it (H. Hancock; Buster Williams; Billy Hart etc.).
― ellaguru, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 21:29 (six years ago) link
that Harvest Time by Sanders upthread is spectacular
― niels, Thursday, 22 February 2018 18:04 (six years ago) link
Great record, one of his best. Too bad it’s so scarce without a legit reissue.
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 22 February 2018 20:15 (six years ago) link
So much great stuff in this thread. I'd add that many versions of "Dark Star" played by the Grateful Dead in 1973 and 74 give off strong "Shh/Peaceful" vibes with their mellow fusion-oriented improv in the mixolydian mode and Keith Godchaux on Fender Rhodes.
Prime example from 8/1/73:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QsoDMEXFXM
― J. Sam, Thursday, 22 February 2018 20:38 (six years ago) link
Is there a Godwin's for Grateful Dead? :)
― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 23 February 2018 17:36 (six years ago) link
Radiohead seem to have some sounds lifted from Miles electric era particularly from In A Silent Way/Bitches Brew. E.g Trumpet line in “Bloom”, electric keyboards in “Subterranean Homesick alien”, Kinetic even samples Miles Davis iirc... they seem to like Miles Davis and Mingus a lot (but then again who doesn’t?)... can’t think of any more specific examples but there’s some textures and production choices from OKC onwards which seem to be sprinkled with influeces from Miles’ electric era.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 23 February 2018 22:31 (six years ago) link
Shuggie Otis (this was a bonus track on the Luaka Bop reissue of Inspiration Information) Freedom Flight is def in the silent way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws7iWxvl6sY
― It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 February 2018 23:19 (six years ago) link
don't think this has been mentioned yet, Idris Muhammed "Peace"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls0nFVV58Xg
― mizzell, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 15:54 (six years ago) link
https://open.spotify.com/track/0yFSGJ79Id2e1EENqmVeWAA.D. Buchanan's Armchair Gospel from Danish trumpet player Jacob Buchanan fits - featuring Jakob Bro on guitar and Marilyn Mazur (who played with Miles) on drums
such a jam
― niels, Sunday, 13 May 2018 12:10 (six years ago) link
Another one not named: Terje Rypdal's song Ghostdancing is almost surely an homage (and has hints of Pharaoh's Dance).
― Pataphysician, Tuesday, 14 August 2018 21:53 (six years ago) link
Excellent UK post-jazz band Dinosaur's latest album has some great Silent Way type moments on it. I recommend. I also recommend their more immediate previous album
https://i2.wp.com/www.birdistheworm.com/wp-content/uploads/Dinosaur-Wonder-Trail.jpg?fit=355%2C355&ssl=1
― Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Friday, 24 August 2018 08:44 (six years ago) link
^ These ppl annoy me for A) never having heard of J Mascis and B) not being legally obliged to amend their band name.
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 24 August 2018 09:07 (six years ago) link
They're very nice people though and come across very lovely on stage
― Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Friday, 24 August 2018 09:23 (six years ago) link
where are the former members of jefferson airplane when you need them?
― canary christ (stevie), Friday, 24 August 2018 09:34 (six years ago) link
I can't tell who's joking or what but isn't that 60/70s band the reason that Dinosaur Jr had to add the "Jr"?
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 August 2018 12:35 (six years ago) link
oh wow never mind I looked it up so this is another new band haha I'd never seen the original 60s one and that cover could be from wheneverso they'll be Dinosaur Jr Jr
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 August 2018 12:38 (six years ago) link
I always take a token brit-jazz Mercury prize nom as an indelible stain on a band's character, much more than whatever the heck their bloody name is!
― calzino, Friday, 24 August 2018 12:57 (six years ago) link
The Dinosaurs were ex members of several ballroom scene SF bands at least one of whom had legal training and sued the Amherst band over use of their name,. I think that was after the 2nd lp, & they actually played in London under the original non-augmented name at the end of 87.Surprised me that this jazz band could come along and use the name without comment but maybe the people who brought the late 80s lawsuit are retired or dead
― Stevolende, Friday, 24 August 2018 13:03 (six years ago) link
Dinosaur UK?
― doug watson, Friday, 24 August 2018 13:35 (six years ago) link