kind of think that's what Dangerous Minds does -- clickbait for the captain beefheart crowd.
― tylerw, Friday, 1 July 2016 14:29 (eight years ago) link
haha that's the best description of dangerous minds
― Steve Gunn Mann-Dude (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 1 July 2016 14:44 (eight years ago) link
and also think about what you SAY you actually read on the internet and what you ACTUALLY read vs what you see a title of on Twitter that looks good and has been retweeted by someone you know so you just retweet it cuz you get the gist of it from the title and don't even read it― Steve Gunn Mann-Dude (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, July 1, 2016 10:10 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Steve Gunn Mann-Dude (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, July 1, 2016 10:10 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I'm not on Twitter.
― Position Position, Friday, 1 July 2016 19:02 (eight years ago) link
ok
― Steve Gunn Mann-Dude (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 1 July 2016 19:12 (eight years ago) link
my larger point is that when you're on the other side and looking at hits and traffic and clickthrough and all that the numbers tell a different story than what ppl say
also listicles with the right editorial shape and direction can be awesome, see most of rs's listicles from the past two years
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 1 July 2016 20:28 (eight years ago) link
Agreed. But Pitchforks listicles arent awesome. They are arbitrary, have the word "staffers" in every single clickbait title which puts me off clicking on it already. Could be good, but they're not doing it right.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 1 July 2016 21:00 (eight years ago) link
'staffers' is kind of admitting that the underlying motivation for the listicle is economic/labor-determined rather than being determined by the culture or the significance or whatever they're supposed nominally to traffic in
― j., Friday, 1 July 2016 21:22 (eight years ago) link
i know this isn't exclusive to p4k by any means, but i hate the trend of capitalizing a phrase instead of putting it into quotes. for example:
With all due respect to her abilities, Sheila E has not been A Name in a couple decades.
where/when did this start? i know DFW did it a lot. bugs the fuck out of me.
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 17:10 (eight years ago) link
i think that piece is really good though
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 17:17 (eight years ago) link
I can't even get past this AREN'T I CLEVER tag
Blink-182's seventh album wants to be a pop-punk eminence album, evidence humbly submitted that this aging pack of skater brats is still young, selectively dumb, and full of commiserating angst.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 15:33 (eight years ago) link
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/22057-maxwell-blacksummersnight/
^^^This review is absolute bullshit^^^
― Austin, Tuesday, 12 July 2016 18:37 (eight years ago) link
i'm confused? there's another review from 09 at the bottom
― Steve Gunn Mann-Dude (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 19:05 (eight years ago) link
BLACKsummer'snight vs. blackSUMMERS'night
― Immediate Follower (NA), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 19:21 (eight years ago) link
i knew that review was going to show up here.
You want both in your boudoir, but Maxwell is the yin to D’Angelo’s yang: While D’Angelo’s steamy devotion makes you kick off the covers, Maxwell is the cool side of the pillow.
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 19:45 (eight years ago) link
it doesn't really "get" maxwell does it
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 12 July 2016 19:46 (eight years ago) link
― Immediate Follower (NA), Tuesday, July 12, 2016 2:21 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ahhhh well played maxwell, until we meet again
― Steve Gunn Mann-Dude (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 21:09 (eight years ago) link
when does blacksummers'NIGHT come out
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 July 2016 21:18 (eight years ago) link
it actually is a trilogy
― Number None, Tuesday, 12 July 2016 21:20 (eight years ago) link
hoping that pt. 3 comes out before 2023
― maura, Tuesday, 12 July 2016 22:11 (eight years ago) link
"staffers" generally means it's done in-house rather than by freelancers, or with very select freelancers, it isn't rocket science
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Thursday, 14 July 2016 05:47 (eight years ago) link
we get that? it's the rhetorical implication of using it as a tag for content that's the thing.
― j., Thursday, 14 July 2016 06:32 (eight years ago) link
^^
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 14 July 2016 08:49 (eight years ago) link
Or maybe we're all better at rocket science than we thought
― I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Thursday, 14 July 2016 14:36 (eight years ago) link
i think you *might* be making too big of a deal about the word "staffers"
― Steve Gunn Mann-Dude (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 14 July 2016 15:17 (eight years ago) link
i was part of a "staffers" list picking old records that we'd recently discovered way back in he olden times of 2006. this is not exactly new. also i don't read pfork much these days, mostly because like most sites covering new music it's skewing to a younger demographic that I am no longer a part of, but the site was pretty damn different in '06 than it was in '96. it's not really shocking that the tone/format/content would again be different 10 years later.
― a basset hound (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 14 July 2016 15:47 (eight years ago) link
woah strongo retroactively sold out to the man smdh :(
― Steve Gunn Mann-Dude (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 14 July 2016 16:16 (eight years ago) link
LOL @ "Life on Mars" being the best song of the 70's
― flappy bird, Monday, 22 August 2016 06:38 (eight years ago) link
i mean, i guess i understand the Bowie clog, but why the fuck "Life on Mars"???
― flappy bird, Monday, 22 August 2016 06:39 (eight years ago) link
it won ILM's Bowie poll so you might be asking the wrong message board.
― billstevejim, Monday, 22 August 2016 07:19 (eight years ago) link
the laughing gnome got robbed
― punksishippies, Monday, 22 August 2016 07:36 (eight years ago) link
i can think of like 12 todd rundgren songs from the 70s that are better than life on mars
― marcos, Monday, 22 August 2016 08:27 (eight years ago) link
hell there are like 6 songs from something/anything? that are better than life on mars
― marcos, Monday, 22 August 2016 08:29 (eight years ago) link
life on mars is a p good song, cool video too if you can find it
― niels, Monday, 22 August 2016 10:15 (eight years ago) link
although it does perhaps belong on a thread for removing one verse from an almost perfect song to make it perfect, since 2nd verse is a bit of a letdown imo (morrissey tactics of just repeating 1st verse wld maybe have been better)
― niels, Monday, 22 August 2016 10:18 (eight years ago) link
Pitchfork being typical contrarian bastards digging out this obscurity from a very much of-his-era cult figure just to prove how much cooler they are than the norms
― Herodotus Reading (Noodle Vague), Monday, 22 August 2016 10:33 (eight years ago) link
as long as 'a plague of lighthouse keepers' was #2 i'm cool with that
― imago, Monday, 22 August 2016 10:40 (eight years ago) link
what a fucking risibly dull list though! they're such imaginationless hacks. no change really
― imago, Monday, 22 August 2016 11:08 (eight years ago) link
have always struggled to understand why people like that song as much as they do - the changes are nice and there's a turn of phrase or two but there's also "it's on america's tortured brow / mickey mouse has grown up a cow"
― The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 22 August 2016 12:22 (eight years ago) link
i'm the biggest fan of Prince's self-titled album but "I Wanna Be Your Lover" is not one of the ten best songs of the '70s, that's way more of a ridiculous response to a recent death than Bowie at #1 imo
― Best Beloved Trump-Pence (some dude), Monday, 22 August 2016 12:24 (eight years ago) link
i think my views on lists as a whole are pretty well known but furrowing your brow about why "Life on Mars" might end up at the top of one of these things is just daft posturing
― Herodotus Reading (Noodle Vague), Monday, 22 August 2016 12:27 (eight years ago) link
some #1 singles of the 70s: Neil Young, "Heart of Gold." The Jackson Five, "ABC" and "I Want You Back." The Temptations, "Papa Was a Rolling Stone." Stevie Wonder, "Superstition." Roberta Flack, "Feel Like Makin' Love." Dionne Warwick & the Spinners, "Then Came You." Earth, Wind & Fire, "Shining Star." David Bowie, "Fame." Michael Jackson, "Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough." Blondie, "Heart of Glass."
Life on Mars peaked at #12. Yeah Noodle you're right, it's a total lock for best single of the decade, how could anybody be at all surprised that it'd rank above those
― The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 22 August 2016 12:38 (eight years ago) link
waiting for a redditor to c/p the list in text format, guessing you'll get a cool playlist from excluding all overlap with acclaimed music's aggregated list http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/1970-79s.htm
― niels, Monday, 22 August 2016 12:41 (eight years ago) link
JC come the fuck on where i have said "IT'S CLEARLY THE GREATEST THING EVER" or even that I'd pick it over a kajillion other things?
just saying - voting demographic, site demographic, necro-nostalgia, a v. popular slightly maudlin slightly epic ballad, these things are not mysterious
all lists that aren't predicated on being individual, personal and transitory are the height of bullshit - that's the game
― Herodotus Reading (Noodle Vague), Monday, 22 August 2016 12:47 (eight years ago) link
Life on Mars is a British song, and went to #3 in Britain. Not everything revolves around the US.
― Frederik B, Monday, 22 August 2016 12:49 (eight years ago) link
half a degree in a given direction and this is some bollocks like "Stairway to Heaven" or "Bohemian Rhapsody", why would an indie-ish internet music site's "best of the 70s" poll thing have anything to do with merit or history or my or your personal predilections?
having said this i would like to distance myself from Fred because clearly everything does revolve around the US
― Herodotus Reading (Noodle Vague), Monday, 22 August 2016 12:50 (eight years ago) link
Wow, "Hammond Song"... I don't think I've heard this before.
― jmm, Monday, 22 August 2016 12:54 (eight years ago) link
lol where is Stairway on this list anyway
― The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 22 August 2016 12:59 (eight years ago) link
As always with pitchfork or any other list, the first 100 songs are way more interesting than the top 100.
Too many token 70s tracks from 80s bands on the list and I love I Wanna Be Your Lover but it's hardly a top 15 Prince song let alone song of the 70s
― you think Lou Bega gave up after Mambo Number One??? (voodoo chili), Monday, 22 August 2016 13:01 (eight years ago) link
no Aretha!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 August 2016 13:02 (eight years ago) link