pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

bickin' back, bein boolean

every site should have an in-house search engine as good as the best search engine in the world

― de l'asshole (flopson), Thursday, June 23, 2016 5:27 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes, they should. You can add a google search box to a website. There is no reason to have a crappy search function.

Bad search is v retro and #vaporwave digging the aesthetics

They've got videos set on autoplay, and since the news loads in a constant stream, as you scroll down the news page, it starts every single video until they're all playing on top of each other. very "altered zones"

i think those are bet's embed settings but idk

I think you're right.

took 2 bylined reporters to team up for this investigative piece

http://pitchfork.com/news/66462-metallica-star-in-hilarious-luxury-menswear-campaign/

damn, that truly is... hilarious

they look fine. man, that bass player has the face of ages. like an ancient rock or tree or something.

he produced & funded that new jaco pastorius doc that's on netflix, seems like a nice guy

i've seen plenty of hilarious luxury menswear campaigns in my time and that was the most hilarious-est

Apparently, they've been doing "classic" album reviews on Sundays. While I'm not opposed to the albums they've covered thus far, I still find the idea of "in retrospect" commentary from a source as notoriously fickle as Pitchfork to be an extremely slippery slope.

http://pitchfork.com/news/66495-pitchforks-next-sunday-review-pulps-different-class/

And the "announcement" of the upcoming review among the site's own news feed strikes me as being in bad taste.

a slope to what?

idk but it sure is slippery

Last couple of weeks: '12 staffers pick an old song they discovered', '8 staffers share their favourite concerts', '17 staffers name their fav summer song'. Arbitrarily numbered listicles are lame, they sure as hell got told to do more listicles.

I do miss the regular features they used to run. No room for those in Buzzfork, I guess.

I mean, every venue is gonna have to balance out this type of shit with more substantive stuff, everyone has to do it. You see MTV News which is trying to do good stuff find that balance, you see even formerly "prestige" outlets like the Atlantic and Salon do it...Forbes that's basically all they do. You literally HAVE to because that's the type of shit that gets shared that's the type of stuff that gets a lot of comments, traction on Facebook etc. It's pretty easy to be haughty about it like omg every site should be the Quietus and do 2000 word interviews dude from the Associates or oral histories of the African desert blues tape trading scene of the 1980s but people click on this stuff.

so the good venues are gonna try to do the stuff that pays the bills, do the stuff they care about and then hope that at least some of the good work goes "viral"

and also think about what you SAY you actually read on the internet and what you ACTUALLY read vs what you see a title of on Twitter that looks good and has been retweeted by someone you know so you just retweet it cuz you get the gist of it from the title and don't even read it

"It's pretty easy to be haughty about it like omg every site should be the Quietus and do 2000 word interviews dude from the Associates or oral histories of the African desert blues tape trading scene of the 1980s but people click on this stuff."

You could simply give these kinds things clickbaity titles! I wonder if that would work.

These 11 Oral Histories of the African Desert Blues Tape Trading Scene of the 1980s Will Absolutely Destroy You, and Here's Why

kind of think that's what Dangerous Minds does -- clickbait for the captain beefheart crowd.

haha that's the best description of dangerous minds

and also think about what you SAY you actually read on the internet and what you ACTUALLY read vs what you see a title of on Twitter that looks good and has been retweeted by someone you know so you just retweet it cuz you get the gist of it from the title and don't even read it

― Steve Gunn Mann-Dude (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, July 1, 2016 10:10 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm not on Twitter.

ok

my larger point is that when you're on the other side and looking at hits and traffic and clickthrough and all that the numbers tell a different story than what ppl say

also listicles with the right editorial shape and direction can be awesome, see most of rs's listicles from the past two years

Agreed. But Pitchforks listicles arent awesome. They are arbitrary, have the word "staffers" in every single clickbait title which puts me off clicking on it already. Could be good, but they're not doing it right.

'staffers' is kind of admitting that the underlying motivation for the listicle is economic/labor-determined rather than being determined by the culture or the significance or whatever they're supposed nominally to traffic in

i know this isn't exclusive to p4k by any means, but i hate the trend of capitalizing a phrase instead of putting it into quotes. for example:

With all due respect to her abilities, Sheila E has not been A Name in a couple decades.

where/when did this start? i know DFW did it a lot. bugs the fuck out of me.

i think that piece is really good though

I can't even get past this AREN'T I CLEVER tag

Blink-182's seventh album wants to be a pop-punk eminence album, evidence humbly submitted that this aging pack of skater brats is still young, selectively dumb, and full of commiserating angst.

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/22057-maxwell-blacksummersnight/

^^^This review is absolute bullshit^^^

i'm confused? there's another review from 09 at the bottom

BLACKsummer'snight vs. blackSUMMERS'night

i knew that review was going to show up here.

You want both in your boudoir, but Maxwell is the yin to D’Angelo’s yang: While D’Angelo’s steamy devotion makes you kick off the covers, Maxwell is the cool side of the pillow.

it doesn't really "get" maxwell does it

BLACKsummer'snight vs. blackSUMMERS'night

― Immediate Follower (NA), Tuesday, July 12, 2016 2:21 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ahhhh well played maxwell, until we meet again

when does blacksummers'NIGHT come out

it actually is a trilogy

hoping that pt. 3 comes out before 2023

"staffers" generally means it's done in-house rather than by freelancers, or with very select freelancers, it isn't rocket science

we get that? it's the rhetorical implication of using it as a tag for content that's the thing.

^^

Or maybe we're all better at rocket science than we thought

i think you *might* be making too big of a deal about the word "staffers"

i was part of a "staffers" list picking old records that we'd recently discovered way back in he olden times of 2006. this is not exactly new. also i don't read pfork much these days, mostly because like most sites covering new music it's skewing to a younger demographic that I am no longer a part of, but the site was pretty damn different in '06 than it was in '96. it's not really shocking that the tone/format/content would again be different 10 years later.

woah strongo retroactively sold out to the man smdh :(

LOL @ "Life on Mars" being the best song of the 70's

i mean, i guess i understand the Bowie clog, but why the fuck "Life on Mars"???

it won ILM's Bowie poll so you might be asking the wrong message board.