You dumdums haven't polled the delight cast recording of Hamilton yet; let me help

Yeah, but:

This show is proof that history remembers.
We live through times when hate and fear seem stronger.
We rise and fall, and light from dying embers
Remembrances that hope and love last longer.
And love cannot be killed or swept aside.
I sing Vanessa's symphony; Eliza tells her story.
Now fill the world with music, love, and pride.

Seems quite lacking.

I suspect it's meant to be:

And love is love is love is love is love is
Love cannot be killed or swept aside.
I sing Vanessa's symphony; Eliza tells her story.
Now fill the world with music, love, and pride.

We'll see. Or better: Poll!

sometimes you guys really are the fucking worst

pull off the wings and peel away the layers and "well it's not really very good at all is it"

i mean fuckin god forbid it moves someone in its imperfect form

It moved me! And not 'in spite of' but kinda because of it's imperfections. I love how spontaneous, how honest, how in the moment Lin-Manuel Miranda always is. He is one of my very big idols at the moment.

sorry, that was a pre-coffee rant lol

I taught kids how to write sonnets last year and some went the lazy route of literally writing like
dog dog dog dog dog dog dog dog dog dog
friend friend friend friend friend friend friend friend friend friend
frog frog frog frog frog frog frog frog frog frog
end end end end end end end end end end end

so the "love is love is love is love" part made me giggle to myself a little for seeming at first to channel a lazy seventh grader
but in the end I think it worked and it's in the SMALL POWERFUL WORDS and STRENGTH THROUGH REPETITION categories

also why am I not married to that romantical fucker

i'd see this if it were possible for reg'lar humans to get/afford tix

I have to live with it through cast recording like all us yokels in flyover country do w/Broadway

me too

soundtrack is closest thing to seeing it most of us can get

Veg, as i told j0rdan a couple weeks ago, only movies have soundtracks (protip)

i'm not a pro but you know

A copy of Burr is going for $2.76 in good condition on Amazon.

save yourselves the $500

i bought it for $6

ok fine ORIGINAL BROADWAY CAST RECORDING jeez

i mean fuckin god forbid it moves someone in its imperfect form

I am cool with you being moved by it and I have no issue with whether it exactly meets the sonnet form or not. My issue is that the words of this poem just kind of lie there, flat, dead, and preprocessed. It could have been written by anyone about anyone. It totally lacks the specificity that he nails in the play itself, where the characters feel like individual people who have real, particular feelings. No doubt Miranda loves the hell out of his wife but you wouldn't know it from this poem, is all I'm saying.

I don't know why I'm making a point of this, it's not really important, obviously it doesn't affect what I think of LMM as a writer, this is just something he tossed off.

http://www.playbill.com/article/watch-highlights-from-encores-modern-day-1776

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVuPC2gpA9w

xpost

i want to let it go i really do
i get we all dont like the same things
but at least watch him deliver it
https://youtu.be/pi44405wMoI

i think Hamilton lacking (for many, apparently) "authentic" rap is as irrelevant as the music for 1776 being diluted Gilbert & Sullivan / Broadway balladeering. It's popular theatre, ya know? One doesn't watch the movie (or subsequent pointless Broadway adaptation of) Victor/Victoria and expect Henry Mancini's songs to sound like actual Parisian cabaret tunes of the early '30s.

agreed

i think Hamilton lacking (for many, apparently) "authentic" rap is as irrelevant as the music for 1776 being diluted Gilbert & Sullivan / Broadway balladeering. It's popular theatre, ya know?

Agreed -- the first time I heard it I was like "wait, I thought this was gonna be hip-hop but it sounds like a Broadway musical" and then about 30 minutes later I was like "well yeah because it IS a Broadway musical and what's more it's the best Broadway musical I've heard in a really long time." But yeah. That is what it is and it's really awesome at being that.

yeah, it's def way more traditional in its style & structure than ppl would lead you to believe

the dumbest stuff I've heard about Hamilton is from white rap bros about how this isn't "real hip hop" so therefore it's corny. Fuck yeah it's corny. Plus, how are Daveed Diggs parts not "authentic"? I was listening to clippng a few years before I knew what Hamilton was.

my husband was kind of interested when i first brought it home & played it, but after a few songs he was like "ehhh, it still sounds super-broadway to me, i dont think i can hang"

months later i think he's still hoping for me to lose interest lol

Mr Veg loves you in the extreme :)

lol there's no better proof

i think Hamilton lacking (for many, apparently) "authentic" rap is as irrelevant as the music for 1776 being diluted Gilbert & Sullivan / Broadway balladeering.

otm

Ha I've played the album in the car so much that my 18 month old walks around singing "nah na na na nah nah Shot!"

i made my friend from Australia listen to it for a week whenever we were in the car, she said she got off the plane back home humming "Wanna be in the room where it happens" :D

I know this is a big deal and everyone loves it and I'll see it here next year and I'm sure it's good, but I heard someone playing this and could have sworn ... it sounded like a Simpsons parody of musicals?

― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, February 28, 2016 9:59 PM (3 months ago)

still can't imagine why this would be a bad thing!

would u pay $900 tho

nah, but i prob wouldn't pay $900 to see elvis

musicals in self-awareness! xxp

did i post this already, sorry if yes

the line "I'm looking for a mind at work" in the Schuyler Sisters song is also quote from mfing Sam Seaborn in an early episode the West Wing

dude is so nerdy it's unreal <3

I was jokingly wondering if having angry Washington saying "These men don't speak for me" after Ten Duel Commandments was a conscious echo of Chuck D being mad at having his voice sampled on Ten Crack Commandments. Lin is so nerdy it was probably intentional.

I saw the show without hearing the soundtrack, and thought that was a Chuck reference

you and your humblebrags i should fp you for that

Hey You Guys!

Did you know LMM was on the 00s revival of The Electric Company?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hTWuN0WCu4&feature=share

I was watching this with my toddlers and paused the playback when I realized who that was. Also, that revival was so terrible and his song fit so well into the overly corny try-hard vibe that my interest in Hamilton nosedived and it wasn't until the Tonys broadcast that I got interested in it again.

djp you gotta get on this train plzzzzzxx

alright so i saw a few freestyle love supreme shows in passing back when i was working at a place they played and man i just really don't like miranda's style. i missed out on early opportunities to see hamilton in workshops/at the Public so i didn't hear it until the cast recording and oh boy it is frankly unlistenable to me. but i'm happy so many people like it! the fact that it's a huge hit helps keep a number of people i care about reasonably paid! almost everyone whose opinion i respect loves it! i dunno what's wrong with me! it's just flat and terrible to my ears.

"simpsons musical" is otm and it's not to my credit that don't work for me. I like corny! this kind of corny i can't countenance. i don't wanna be contrary about it. it has been bothering me.

i'll probably hear it at some point and it'll click and i'll completely fall for it. this is what happened with adventure time. until then, mystified.

on the other side of the spectrum, former vintage-classic-rock-DJ and musical-theatre-baby Jonathan Schwarz was saying on his 'American songbook' radio show last Sunday that old-timey Broadway vets were all "It's rap! Get it away from me" etc.

in my experience of old-timey broadway vets this is true

"simpsons musical" is otm

Lyle Lanley Miranda

It's rap!

Hear this in the voice of "It's Pat!" for some reason

I saw the show without hearing the soundtrack, and thought that was a Chuck reference

― glandular lansbury (sic), Wednesday, June 15, 2016 2:56 AM (18 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you and your humblebrags i should fp you for that

― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, June 15, 2016 3:40 AM (17 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

He forgot to mention that he also saw it for free.

>:(

His drinks were also comped.