Would have voted for 'Pen Expers'
― Turrican, Thursday, 26 May 2016 20:12 (eight years ago) link
The beats on 'Lentic Catachresis' are fucking sublime.
― Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Wednesday, 25 January 2017 23:37 (seven years ago) link
i read a review once by a listener who heard confield as a particularly difficult post-rock / math-rock album, performed with software rather than instruments. they compared the end of lentic catachresis to the extended feedback squeals / hums at the end of certain post-rock albums. since reading that review i've had a hard time *not* hearing it that way.
― the late great, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 23:50 (seven years ago) link
I listen to this album when I have one of my frequent debilitating headaches and I swear to God it helps. It's gotta be on headphones though
Autechre geniuses: Is there an EP or album that's more in the style of "VI Scose Poise?" I mean of course I like the harddrive crash-breakbeat stuff, but that's also mostly what I know of Autechre (superficially speaking). I just really, really love that one, and "Lentic Catachresis," and stuff that's less schizophrenic / conspicuously noisy
Also, how the hell do you people pronounce Autechre track titles in real life? Serious question. I have very few friends in the real world I can talk with about Autechre, but in that group, we all end up sorta doing our best to pronounce titles phonetically (see also Aphex), which results in me adding "or whatever" at the end of every title (or just saying "you know, the third track on disc 2...")
Same problem I have with titles in foreign languages, of course, but since this is ostensibly english, err...just wondering.
― Wimmels, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 17:51 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuPNwLYrMm0
just after 3'30 on this video Sean and Rob offer some tips on the titles
― sheer presence, look and size (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 17:57 (seven years ago) link
Whoa, that was cool. lol at "Party Zone." And look at those pants!
― Wimmels, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:09 (seven years ago) link
> Is there an EP or album that's more in the style of "VI Scose Poise?"
which bit of VI S P? the rattly bit or the nice bit?
rattly bit makes me think of Gantz Graf, the video of which is amazeballs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1RrVa_axRY
― koogs, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 19:03 (seven years ago) link
For me, this is probably their best work and I really don't understand the "beginning of the end" sentiment in the OP.
― Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 19:14 (seven years ago) link
This will always be the greatest Autechre video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO9ZY5V461c
― Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 19:16 (seven years ago) link
Dropp (from ep7) also seems quite similar to VI S P
― koogs, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 19:19 (seven years ago) link
i read a review once by a listener who heard confield as a particularly difficult post-rock / math-rock album
I've always heard it as their Jazz album myself! That interview video is great. Makes me feel old ...
― Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 19:43 (seven years ago) link
that washing machine video is great. I know it's random but it's weird how often it seems to sync up (parts flying off in time with the music)
― Wimmels, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 21:21 (seven years ago) link
confield isn't the beginning of the end but it's the beginning and end of something. definitely not the end
― Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 00:02 (seven years ago) link
I'm nowhere near an Autechre completist or anything (the 5xCD box set of EPs usually does the trick when I need a fix) but Confield is an album I return to a lot. I wish there was more music like it.
And thanks for reminding me about "Dropp!" It's buried in the middle of EP7 (and iirc the last song on one of the CDs on the box set) so I'd totally forgotten about it.
― Wimmels, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 00:30 (seven years ago) link
Also, it sounds like I need to hear Oversteps. I know the reaction to it was mixed to say the least, but the way it's been described by both haters and fans alike makes me think I'd love it
― Wimmels, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 00:31 (seven years ago) link
oversteps is lovely. maybe the most melodic of their more recent output
― Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 00:50 (seven years ago) link
ehh, gimme Exai over Oversteps. But then the two winners on this poll are my least favourite Confield tracks, the one-two punch of the first two does it for me every time, and Parhelic is really just beyond this physical universe for me.
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 01:12 (seven years ago) link
Every time a thread like this gets bumped I start to think I should just spend my whole time listening to autechre - which is psychotic obviously, but the quality & quantity are there to justify it, plus the feeling that maybe even e.g. Draft 7.30 will eventually click for me. I should certainly spend *more* of my time listening to autechre.
― brekekekexit collapse collapse (ledge), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 09:08 (seven years ago) link
Surripere and 6IE.CR are the key Draft tracks for me. I found the album a bit "eh" until one day I played Surripere at shattering volume, it's suffocating. Also cool to know lots of the album sounds are from samples throwing pieces of wood around in the yard (hence "xylin room").
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 09:22 (seven years ago) link
Also my two favourite Ae videos - the first is official, the second should be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikM9U3St540
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHo6qWxoDOQ
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 09:26 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEJo2XEACrE
another good one :)
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 23:55 (seven years ago) link
doesn't every new Ae album get treated this way? elseq was the only time where people didn't immediately come out of the woodwork to say "I liked 'em better when...", though obviously the sheer length has a lot to do with that. these dudes definitely walk a fine line sometimes. and yes, get Oversteps.
― frogbs, Thursday, 9 February 2017 14:31 (seven years ago) link
from confield onward (until exai maybe), it seems like every autechre album has much more favorable opinions starting about 2 years after release.
― silverfish, Thursday, 9 February 2017 14:46 (seven years ago) link
Untilted was kinda 'wtf' for me, following Draft 7.30.. it seemed like they'd abandoned overt color/melody almost entirely, but it's become a favorite. LCC ist tops, Augmatic Disport is one of their most epic tracks (imo) - along w/Sublimit, which is near-unanimously praised/regarded as a classic/epic. Confield, generally, it still feels stilted/convoluted, but i'm coming around to it.
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Saturday, 11 February 2017 19:06 (seven years ago) link
Ipacial Section, fuck
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Saturday, 11 February 2017 19:17 (seven years ago) link
Every time a thread like this gets bumped I start to think I should just spend my whole time listening to autechre - which is psychotic obviously, but the quality & quantity are there to justify it, plus the feeling that maybe even e.g. Draft 7.30 will eventually click for me. I should certainly spend *more* of my time listening to autechre.― brekekekexit collapse collapse (ledge)
― brekekekexit collapse collapse (ledge)
there's something very immediate, almost physically tangible about their music. listening to elseq over the summer and thinking that there's really nothing else like it.. can't describe it very well, other than that it possesses strong visual qualities, and it's physically immediate/raw.. i could see immersing oneself in their music for a prolonged duration, not sure what that says about one's mindset. seeing them live was a great experience, the 2015/2016 material seems like a break from their typical beat-heavy style.
nice thread, enjoying the lengthy/descriptive posts upthread, from previous years. listening now, "sim gishel" is v agreeable
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Sunday, 12 February 2017 00:14 (seven years ago) link
I'd like to meet a person who only listened to Autechre and nothing else, but I'm not sure I'd want them to know where I live
― Wimmels, Sunday, 12 February 2017 15:59 (seven years ago) link
there's something very immediate, almost physically tangible about their music
exactly - I feel their music occupies some sort of 3-D space that very little else does. I've been listening to Move Of 10 a lot over the last month and I'm always astounded by how great it sounds when you really crank it and immerse yourself. all their albums are like that of course, particularly the ones from Quaristice on.
― frogbs, Monday, 13 February 2017 19:24 (seven years ago) link
Quaristice is underrated. It feels like a suite of individual mini-narratives and is nothing like any of their other albums.
― Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 11:45 (seven years ago) link
I get into modes where the only music that will scratch my itch is Autechre. Once it passes then I can return to my regular scheduled programming
Also, am I the only one that likes Draft 7:30 the most out of their "Mechanized Trilogy"?
― octobeard, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 16:30 (seven years ago) link
'Mechanised Trilogy' eh? Is that Confield, Draft, Untilted? Not my favourites but I think I'd choose Draft out of the three yeah.
― Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 16:51 (seven years ago) link
xp - totally. nothing quite sounds like that *THUNK* on "Cipater" and then I end up listening to all of Chiastic, cuz why not
― frogbs, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 18:00 (seven years ago) link
I've been listening to Move Of 10 a lot over the last month and I'm always astounded by how great it sounds when you really crank it and immerse yourselfmove of 10 is so immaculately produced/mastered.. i had it on one night, "pce freeze 2.8i" at moderate volume, a bit baked. it sounded amazing, so crisp, popping out of the speakers--inhabiting the room. it seemed as if you could hear around the contours of the sounds, an illusion of an enveloping stereo fiel. was floored on it
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 21:16 (seven years ago) link
er,
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― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 21:17 (seven years ago) link
I love Move of Ten and have no idea why it's so underrated in these parts. "M62" is top ten AE for me
― Wimmels, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 23:03 (seven years ago) link
Also, anyone else think Autechre only became great after LP5? I never play the first four albums. Maybe they just haven't aged as well. The "mechanized trilogy" that octobeard refers to (that's great, btw) is definitely where my brain is at these days
― Wimmels, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 23:07 (seven years ago) link
confield is definitely where they finally became major for me, thanks in large part to an incredibly evocative write-up from former ilm'er gareth. (early ilm is littered with posts from me shitting on ae, which i don't necessarily retract but i realize now that i was being needlessly hyperbolic.) i might still argue that ep7 is the best thing they ever did, but then it seems to sit in the sweet spot between the gnarled melodies of the older stuff and the fractal/generative stuff post-confield.
― a basset hound (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 23:13 (seven years ago) link
Also, anyone else think Autechre only became great after LP5?
I hardly ever listen to Incunabula these days, but I still have a lot of time for Amber and Tri Repetae (which I love, but don't rate as highly as some people) ... LP5 and Confield are the ones I keep returning to, and I like a great deal of what came after and will always check out a new Autechre record.
― Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 23:38 (seven years ago) link
former ilm'er gareth
i have my suspicions about saer
― imago, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 23:41 (seven years ago) link
I still listen to Chiastic Slide a lot. IMO that's where they really made "the leap" into greatness. Amber still a great disc though
― frogbs, Thursday, 16 February 2017 01:10 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, I agree that chiastic slide is where they start getting really interesting. Confield is where they get really really really interesting.
Ep7 is really good too though, I need to listen to that again, it's been a while.
― silverfish, Thursday, 16 February 2017 01:59 (seven years ago) link
It's all great. Every album is underrated.
― silverfish, Thursday, 16 February 2017 02:08 (seven years ago) link
Cichil Suite is really good :-D
― Everything Moves Towards The Sun (Ross), Thursday, 16 February 2017 02:14 (seven years ago) link
*Cichli Suite
"Pencha" is so incredibly my shit
― frogbs, Thursday, 16 February 2017 03:56 (seven years ago) link
Yep Cichlisuite is peak Ae. I presume y'all get the title pun.
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Thursday, 16 February 2017 04:27 (seven years ago) link
I've come to really appreciate the first three albums since acquiring them on vinyl. Always loved Amber but it turns out I'm much more interested in putting on Incunabula these days; an album I always had a bit of trouble with back in the day. I like all their albums though. Chiastic Slide is when they truly became Autechre in my mind, but it's a bit of a muddle. LP5 is truly amazing.
― Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Thursday, 16 February 2017 10:42 (seven years ago) link
i like / hate the way that all autechre threads end up this way.
― koogs, Thursday, 16 February 2017 12:24 (seven years ago) link
haha yeah it's just people listing their favourites and then saying 'they're all good really'
― Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Thursday, 16 February 2017 14:33 (seven years ago) link
it prompted me to dig out oversteps again, so that was good.
― koogs, Thursday, 16 February 2017 15:12 (seven years ago) link