Totally. It's how TIB should have been released. They took out the pointless songs (Foxy, So What, It's Not You) and added a better one (World War) and the singles.
― LeRooLeRoo, Friday, 20 May 2016 17:22 (eight years ago) link
I don't mind "It's Not You" but it's basically "Object (Variation I)"
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Friday, 20 May 2016 17:30 (eight years ago) link
Of course. But that is one of the most obvious statements in the world. Boys don't cry is a killer song, three imaginary boys is ok but not more. It's an unfair match, a genius tune vs. an average, everyday song.
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 20 May 2016 17:33 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, I generally prefer Boys Don't Cry to Three Imaginary Boys too.
I often wonder what Smith thinks about songs like 'Object' and 'It's Not You' these days... I'm guessing he's embarrassed by 'em.
― Turrican, Friday, 20 May 2016 17:35 (eight years ago) link
Uh, 'Three Imaginary Boys' (the song) rules.
― Turrican, Friday, 20 May 2016 17:36 (eight years ago) link
(x-post to DJP) Exactly. I like it too, but we really only need one or the other on the album. I also prefer the Easy Cure demo of "Meathook" than the version that made it on the debut.
Alex we are talking about the albums not the songs. The song "Three Imaginary Boys" is brilliant!
― LeRooLeRoo, Friday, 20 May 2016 17:37 (eight years ago) link
lol well everyone covered all of my points so I'm just going to delete them and say "ditto"
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Friday, 20 May 2016 17:37 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5iHouB9ODk
― Turrican, Friday, 20 May 2016 17:43 (eight years ago) link
good old Tochurst Dempsey
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Friday, 20 May 2016 17:48 (eight years ago) link
yeah i mean when you take off some garbage songs and add one of the greatest new wave songs i'd say boys don't cry is better than three imaginary boys!
― rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 20 May 2016 17:52 (eight years ago) link
What was the story with World War again? It wasn't on the CD version of BDC for some reason, I think I read that Bob doesn't/didn't like it?
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 20 May 2016 18:00 (eight years ago) link
also
The song "Three Imaginary Boys" is brilliant!
^
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 20 May 2016 18:01 (eight years ago) link
But boys don't cry is a compilation. How can you compare a compilation to a real album. That does not make a lot lf sense. Obviously the comp is better as it is a sort of best of. That is trivial. And anybody who thinkks the song tib is better th a n the song bdc is crazy. bdc sleighs, tib is a sleeping pill in compsrison.
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 20 May 2016 18:30 (eight years ago) link
Sorry about the spelling. It's the smartphone's fault.
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 20 May 2016 18:31 (eight years ago) link
Nobody is saying one is better than the other. We're saying that both rule, which is true.
― Turrican, Friday, 20 May 2016 18:31 (eight years ago) link
add one of the greatest new wave songs i'd say boys don't cry is better than three imaginary boys
Which one, "Killing An Arab" or "Jumping Someone Else's Train" ?
― LeRooLeRoo, Friday, 20 May 2016 18:37 (eight years ago) link
This
BDC is better than 3 Imaginary Boys.
― kwhitehead, Friday, 20 May 2016 19:31 (eight years ago) link
Seven shows into the tour and they've played 72 different songs!
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 20 May 2016 19:47 (eight years ago) link
I'm really impressed that they played "2 Late". I hope they play it in Montréal.
― LeRooLeRoo, Friday, 20 May 2016 19:52 (eight years ago) link
I have a fantastic bootleg from the Top tour with Phil still on bass and Boris in on drums (maybe his first or second show ever, if I recall correctly). I'll post it when I get home if enough people are interested.
Go on then. This was the tour i first saw them.
― Half-baked profundities. Self-referential smirkiness (Bob Six), Friday, 20 May 2016 21:09 (eight years ago) link
Listened to "The Top" for the first time in ages, and yeah, it's pretty great! Really sets the stage for what comes next, but in a sort of non-linear way.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 20 May 2016 21:41 (eight years ago) link
FaithThe Walk (North American mini-LP)Blue Sunshine (The Glove)Pornography17 SecondsDisintegrationJoin the Dots (first 2.5 CDs)The Head on the DoorKMKMKMThe TopWishBoys Don't Cry >> Three Imaginary BoysWild Mood Swings4:13 DreamThe CureBloodflowers
I can't include Japanese Whispers with the truncated "Just One Kiss," as much as I love "The Lovecats."
Yes, Robert left "Object" and "World War" off the CD because he hated them - replaced with "So What." I believe he thought "World War" was terrible, and "Object" lyrically embarrassing.
― lingereffect (Kent Burt), Friday, 20 May 2016 22:02 (eight years ago) link
Here 'tis:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ovqbesiwmcxa1qf/tc16111984.zip?dl=0
― Austin, Friday, 20 May 2016 22:04 (eight years ago) link
― LeRooLeRoo, Friday, May 20, 2016 3:52 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
oh nice
― always be charging (rip van wanko), Friday, 20 May 2016 22:28 (eight years ago) link
(x-post)Thanks! I still have my ticket for Thursday 10 May 1984 (Block 10;B19) - 32 years ago.
― Half-baked profundities. Self-referential smirkiness (Bob Six), Friday, 20 May 2016 22:53 (eight years ago) link
Relistening to this Top tour show, it has some downright hilarious between song banter from Bob:
"Sorry we started so late. We got arrested."
(introducing 'Let's Go to Bed') "Here's another country and western song."
"Whoever turned the house lights on is gonna get a fuckin' kicking later on."
― Austin, Saturday, 21 May 2016 00:38 (eight years ago) link
Smith's live between-song banter was always a bit WTF during the '80s, providing that you could make out what the hell he was saying! There's some moments on The Cure In Orange where I'm like "what the fuck did he just say?"
― Turrican, Saturday, 21 May 2016 01:43 (eight years ago) link
my all-time favorite band:
PornographyThe Head on the DoorFaithSeventeen SecondsDisintegrationKiss Me Kiss Me Kiss MeJoin the DotsWishThe TopJapanese WhispersThree Imaginary BoysBloodflowersWild Mood Swings4:13 DreamThe Cure
― Bee OK, Saturday, 21 May 2016 01:49 (eight years ago) link
Relistening to this Top tour show, it has some downright hilarious between song banter from Bob:"Sorry we started so late. We got arrested."(introducing 'Let's Go to Bed') "Here's another country and western song.""Whoever turned the house lights on is gonna get a fuckin' kicking later on."― Austin, Saturday, May 21, 2016 12:38 AM (16 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Austin, Saturday, May 21, 2016 12:38 AM (16 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
My favorite Robert Smith stage banter can be heard on the Curiosity cassette. At the conclusion of one of the songs, he says, "You've been the noisiest audience I ever had to listen to."
― Ex Slacker, Saturday, 21 May 2016 17:49 (eight years ago) link
thanks! this version of "forever" is dope
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 21 May 2016 17:53 (eight years ago) link
I often think I've "completed" my Cure phase but there's still quite a bunch of things I don't have. I should be filling the gaps but it's annoying to get albums for just a few tracks.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 21 May 2016 23:14 (eight years ago) link
I tend to go through phases of either not listening to The Cure, or binge listening to their discography. Just when I think I've reached a point where I feel I've burnt out on the discography, I'll find myself on a Cure kick and loving them as much as ever.
― Turrican, Saturday, 21 May 2016 23:31 (eight years ago) link
I'm definitely getting in the mood for it and I always meant to fill in the gaps and buy all the expanded editions but I'm always reluctant to go back to old favourite bands when I've got the majority of their stuff. I don't know why. But I'll probably have a great time with it.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 21 May 2016 23:40 (eight years ago) link
― Turrican, Saturday, May 21, 2016 7:31 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
This. Also, I hear the influence of Disintegration in unlikely places, like a lot of post rock and shoegazey metal. I was listening to Panopticon by Isis last week and remember thinking it sounded like that band has definitely spent some time with the back half of Disintegration (and probably Pornography too)
― Wimmels, Sunday, 22 May 2016 00:48 (eight years ago) link
my friend/drummer is a friend of roger's. he txted him today:
"what do i have to do to guarantee exploding boy on the shoreline set list?"
roger: haha
"i don't know why you think i'm joking"
roger: awful song
still hope they play it!
― akm, Sunday, 22 May 2016 03:54 (eight years ago) link
Hope nobody minds if I shill for a Curehead friend of mine.
Nick Keech (who plays in the Telescopes touring band among others) has a little side project where he conjures up the sound of that cold, disconnected, 17 Seconds/Faith era for fun and he's really good at it too.
This is his latest.
http://easterhead.bandcamp.com/track/swing
― MaresNest, Sunday, 22 May 2016 10:57 (eight years ago) link
Roger seriously off the money
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 22 May 2016 11:55 (eight years ago) link
I hear the influence of Disintegration in unlikely places, like a lot of post rock and shoegazey metal.
Not as unlikely as all that -- the Cure and metal have had twenty years plus of overt worship by the latter going on in various areas. As more people realized "Holy fuck those are some loud guitars" the rest followed.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 22 May 2016 15:06 (eight years ago) link
getting ready to go tonight, can't believe this is really happening.
― Bee OK, Sunday, 22 May 2016 21:12 (eight years ago) link
going to try and also catch The Twilight Sad, getting ready to leave.
― Bee OK, Sunday, 22 May 2016 23:46 (eight years ago) link
have never been to the Hollywood Bowl and i have see close to 200 live shows. so looking very forward to tonight.
― Bee OK, Sunday, 22 May 2016 23:47 (eight years ago) link
Will there be /was there screaming?
― Mark G, Monday, 23 May 2016 07:25 (eight years ago) link
Last night's set list kinda blew
― kurt schwitterz, Monday, 23 May 2016 15:33 (eight years ago) link
Looks pretty good from here!
http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/the-cure/2016/hollywood-bowl-hollywood-ca-33fea03d.html
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 May 2016 16:04 (eight years ago) link
omigod @ that The Top sequence w/"All I Want" interrupting.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 May 2016 16:10 (eight years ago) link
Eh it was a bummer greatest hits set list but all I want was amazzzingggg
― kurt schwitterz, Monday, 23 May 2016 16:17 (eight years ago) link
4 encores, 15 songs?!
― Double Nickels on the Pecunidigm (Dan Peterson), Monday, 23 May 2016 16:26 (eight years ago) link
A 'greatest hits' setlist with "Trust," "2 Late," "All I Want" and "Piggy in the Mirror" alone? I mean, I'll take that.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 May 2016 16:29 (eight years ago) link
That doesn't look like a bad setlist at all to me. The guy who runs the Smash Hits archive was apparently at the show.
― Turrican, Monday, 23 May 2016 17:55 (eight years ago) link
You all know about the London residency/secret gig towards the end of the year, yes?
― djh, Monday, 23 May 2016 20:17 (eight years ago) link