i feel like Kevin Gates's career should be studied by other rappers looking to make that mixtapes-to-album transition, they just kept the music coming really steadily and then built up to the album so that there was a demand for it. so much better than the erratic way Gucci/Thug/Migos kind of steamroll over one project to get to the next one.
― a goon shaped tool (some dude), Friday, 20 May 2016 02:26 (eight years ago) link
You'd think with Lyor Cohen involved, they would know better but wasn't there a thing awhile ago about how he actually has no idea these days (I didn't bother reading it tbh but wasn't that the gist)
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Friday, 20 May 2016 02:28 (eight years ago) link
― a goon shaped tool (some dude), Thursday, May 19, 2016 10:26 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
the thing is that gates was almost entirely ignored by the music press up until he released islah so he could build up slowly in relative obscurity whereas migos & thug got magazine covers and stuff before they even released albums. i think in that same discussion w/ lyor cohen thug says "but the critics love it" or something regarding his music. (also it took gates years to get a hot 100 hit whereas with migos it happened instantaneously & thug after a few years and i think once that happened labels can't stop themselves from meddling.)
― J0rdan S., Friday, 20 May 2016 13:51 (eight years ago) link
i'm pretty bewildered by Gates' success... he seemed to have fallen off the map pre-Islah. i kinda suspect it was just the high quality of the music that gave him the boost
― de l'asshole (flopson), Friday, 20 May 2016 14:08 (eight years ago) link
do you think gates getting ignored by the music press is to do with image or the fact that he didn't have that one huge hit?
i think gates has more feel for how to craft a body of work while the others don't seem to put any thought into what makes an album work as an album aside from "lots of songs, in one package"
― cher guevara (lex pretend), Friday, 20 May 2016 14:12 (eight years ago) link
well gates isn't an aesthete and isn't from a city you can write a trend piece about. his mixtapes got steadily reviewed & stuff so there are rappers who have even stronger claims of having their music fall on deaf ears but just making good, regular street music doesn't exactly catch the attention of editors these days. you don't see gates pop up in the studio w/ kanye next to lil yachty or get remixed by drake or played by kylie jenner on snapchat. it's just not tastemaker music and right now that's where everyone's focus is.
― J0rdan S., Friday, 20 May 2016 14:29 (eight years ago) link
the priorities of the music press just are out of wack, which isn't necessarily an indictment of the individuals w/in as much as general market factors or whatever. but the fact that like you could pitch a story about lil boosie's discography while he was in prison but prob couldn't land a piece about his output since isn't a good thing.
― J0rdan S., Friday, 20 May 2016 14:33 (eight years ago) link
gates success is in part based on him touring a lot
― ANU (sisilafami), Friday, 20 May 2016 16:14 (eight years ago) link
meanwhile: http://www.thestranger.com/music/2016/05/18/24094446/young-thug-is-a-living-technological-advancement-of-black-art-with-an-inscrutable-style-thats-greater-than-language
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 May 2016 17:22 (eight years ago) link
lol, unless there's a proper hit soon we'll have to deal with those pieces for a few more years i'm afraid.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 20 May 2016 17:39 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7g5JADcrSo
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 08:42 (eight years ago) link
Yeah I love that. Catchy as hell, but will radio station even consider playing that hook though?
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 1 June 2016 08:57 (eight years ago) link
Probably not. Though I don't think YT will lose sleep over that.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 10:10 (eight years ago) link
Thug on a dancehall beat sounds promising:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BGtFODDRzwX/
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 17 June 2016 06:51 (seven years ago) link
nice
― J0rdan S., Friday, 17 June 2016 14:00 (seven years ago) link
King Troup is pretty good
― de l'asshole (flopson), Friday, 17 June 2016 23:05 (seven years ago) link
incredible https://twitter.com/ComplexlySimple/status/750579123672772609
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 08:17 (seven years ago) link
welp i guess if ppl tell u nothing ever changes
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 08:18 (seven years ago) link
http://pitchfork-cdn.s3.amazonaws.com/content/jeffery.jpg
― Spottie, Friday, 26 August 2016 06:40 (seven years ago) link
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 26 August 2016 06:48 (seven years ago) link
A+ first listen, no doubt
― Spottie, Friday, 26 August 2016 06:52 (seven years ago) link
Finally - a next step. Why isn't Pick up the phone a hit yet though? In at 90 on this week's Hot 100.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 26 August 2016 07:04 (seven years ago) link
hahaha what
― marcos, Friday, 26 August 2016 14:12 (seven years ago) link
this tape is soooooo good... production is just masterful and his voice sounds so easy here. He used to stretch and strain but now he makes everything sound effortless
― Evan R, Friday, 26 August 2016 14:43 (seven years ago) link
that cover is very what what WHAT
― thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Friday, 26 August 2016 14:52 (seven years ago) link
not sure i like this as much as "i'm up" but it's good
― ANU (sisilafami), Friday, 26 August 2016 15:24 (seven years ago) link
this is definitely better than I'm Up
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 26 August 2016 15:29 (seven years ago) link
it doesn't hit the soul like im up does though.
― ANU (sisilafami), Friday, 26 August 2016 15:36 (seven years ago) link
is anyone else listening via apple music and unable to play the last track, "pick up the phone?"
― if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Friday, 26 August 2016 16:57 (seven years ago) link
weird, it's on spotify and you can listen to the single version on apple music but for the album it ends with "pop man"
― if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Friday, 26 August 2016 17:17 (seven years ago) link
Amazing tape, just dropping into it now, but this is next level stuff from Jeffery.
― MikoMcha, Friday, 26 August 2016 20:53 (seven years ago) link
RiRi. Fuck.
― breastcrawl, Friday, 26 August 2016 23:46 (seven years ago) link
feeling like maybe I don't deserve Jeffery. r just has too much to give and I can't accept it all in good conscience
― mh 😏, Saturday, 27 August 2016 04:21 (seven years ago) link
"R" should be "he" ffs
― mh 😏, Saturday, 27 August 2016 04:22 (seven years ago) link
this is really good but SS3 is the best thing he's done for ages by far.
― TARANTINO! (dog latin), Saturday, 27 August 2016 11:09 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/thugActivities/status/769335762194235392
― flopson, Saturday, 27 August 2016 20:44 (seven years ago) link
<3
― flopson, Saturday, 27 August 2016 20:45 (seven years ago) link
― self-clowning cozen of ILX (cozen), Saturday, 27 August 2016 21:04 (seven years ago) link
― TARANTINO! (dog latin), Saturday, 27 August 2016 11:09 (ten hours ago) Permalink
Naw
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Saturday, 27 August 2016 21:30 (seven years ago) link
not sure why this doesn't get the same level of attn and hyper-analysing frank ocean gets
― peanutbuttereverysingleday, Sunday, 28 August 2016 00:05 (seven years ago) link
Frank Ocean hasn't released anything in four years. Young Thug puts out music every few months
would be one reason
― Number None, Sunday, 28 August 2016 00:08 (seven years ago) link
fuck i saw a long thing on fb this morning about the homosexual agenda against black men in response to this album cover
― flappy bird, Sunday, 28 August 2016 00:09 (seven years ago) link
i like how theres a song called wyclef jean but thats not the song that features him
― lag∞n, Sunday, 28 August 2016 00:10 (seven years ago) link
also the song called Guwop doesn't feature Gucci Mane
― Number None, Sunday, 28 August 2016 00:16 (seven years ago) link
yes! thats a fair point about diff between FO and YT releases should have thought of that
― peanutbuttereverysingleday, Sunday, 28 August 2016 00:19 (seven years ago) link
the song called harambe does feature harambe tho
― lag∞n, Sunday, 28 August 2016 00:26 (seven years ago) link
future swag is great
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 28 August 2016 01:38 (seven years ago) link
I'm so glad this isn't getting frank ocean level attention the critical audience for thug is annoying enough
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Sunday, 28 August 2016 03:22 (seven years ago) link
hard to decide if the fanboys or the old-head hater brigade is more annoying when it comes to YT
― Spottie, Sunday, 28 August 2016 03:24 (seven years ago) link
well i think we can agree there is always something to be annoyed about
― peanutbuttereverysingleday, Sunday, 28 August 2016 03:26 (seven years ago) link