Whoever said 'The Numbers' reminded 'em of Led Zeppelin is pretty OTM. It's like the chords of in the second part of 'Stairway' mixed with the 'Kashmir' strings.
― Turrican, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 20:08 (ten years ago)
True Love Waits might make it into my Radiohead top 5. always loved the live version/s but this.. Jesus.
― piscesx, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 20:48 (ten years ago)
Is anyone lucky enough to be going to any of the upcoming gigs? I would have made the trip to London if I could have got a ticket.
I am gonna see them at Primavera Sound in two weeks
― Shin Oliva Suzuki, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 02:49 (ten years ago)
"broken hearts make it rain" is a both great and hilarious lyric imo
― niels, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 09:14 (ten years ago)
Yeah, written down it's such a daft, teenage lyric, but it's context and delivery make it work.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 09:50 (ten years ago)
why oh why am i not going to primavera this year??
― TARANTINO! (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 10:14 (ten years ago)
I didn't appresh the "broken hearts / make it rain" double-entendre until I watched older clips of Yorke dancing while singing it live, now I agree that it is v.poetic & sweet
― bernard snowy, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 10:57 (ten years ago)
another very 'poetic' bit of the album for me = the conceit of "Desert Island Disk"/'different kinds of love are possible', which projects an amusing image of Thom Yorke as single & ready-to-mingle
― bernard snowy, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 11:03 (ten years ago)
the piano on 'true love waits' reminds me of the way a lot of ambient piano bros like eluvium do their piano
― 6 god none the richer (m bison)
are you talking about the primary part or the sort of unhinged, background tinklings? the background stuff sort of recalls Charlemagne Palestine's "sliding fifths" style of (fluid) playing... sort of like Mick Turner's solo music.
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 17:53 (ten years ago)
....sort of
― Turrican
Yep, riffing is very Jimmy Page-esque when he uses acoustic guitars, reminds me of the Led Zeppelin III. Strings and laughs at the end seem like a reference to I Am the Walrus as well.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 20:32 (ten years ago)
Strings remind me of Curtis Mayfield too.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 20:33 (ten years ago)
Strings in Glass Eyes are very Debussy. It's a great piece if you're in the mood for it... would love to hear an instrumental only take.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 20:37 (ten years ago)
Which two meanings are you thinking of? Almost seems line there could be 3:
- broken hearts/tears- divorce settlements - making money selling albums that appeal to sad people (I don't really think that's true but the popular perception of radiohead's music is that it's for miserable people)
― I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 23:05 (ten years ago)
- choosing between kano and rain
― bonita pooleymoon (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 23:44 (ten years ago)
- game 6 of 2015 nba finals
― bonita pooleymoon (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 23:47 (ten years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/SuqlDWS.jpg
― niels, Thursday, 19 May 2016 10:27 (ten years ago)
Strings on "The Numbers" seem to come straight out of here for me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3WeNexb2a8
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 19 May 2016 13:06 (ten years ago)
this album is a grower, huh?
― niels, Friday, 20 May 2016 07:11 (ten years ago)
Ha, I was thinking I was kind of done with it...
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 20 May 2016 07:47 (ten years ago)
haha... well I'm only on 7th listen or so
anyone ever come up w an excuse for the album title?
― niels, Friday, 20 May 2016 07:53 (ten years ago)
Nah, they're talking about a person named moon (Keith?) and how they influenced the game of billiards― 6 god none the richer (m bison), Monday, May 9, 2016 12:24 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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― Mark G, Friday, 20 May 2016 12:26 (ten years ago)
well it's either a pool that's shaped like the moon or a pool shaped by the moon
― TARANTINO! (dog latin), Friday, 20 May 2016 12:29 (ten years ago)
something to do with the tide being affected by the moon... I dunno... guess we discussed all this up thread.
― TARANTINO! (dog latin), Friday, 20 May 2016 12:30 (ten years ago)
duno if it's been mentioned upthread but apparently identikit starts of with the mumbling of
A moon shaped poolA desert coldYou love meNow I know that there’s no more meWhole me
well I guess I was never into radiohead for the lrx
I buy into the Keith Moon theory
― niels, Friday, 20 May 2016 12:51 (ten years ago)
lots of 'love/relationship' lyrics huh?
― TARANTINO! (dog latin), Friday, 20 May 2016 12:56 (ten years ago)
Huh, I would have never known those were the words if I hadn't read them.
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Friday, 20 May 2016 13:15 (ten years ago)
xp people are calling it a breakup album right?
― niels, Friday, 20 May 2016 13:38 (ten years ago)
Ful Stop has a line something like "why should I behave if you can't" which is a bit ouch.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 20 May 2016 13:56 (ten years ago)
I don't get a Melody Nelson vibe from the strings on this at all.
― Turrican, Friday, 20 May 2016 17:46 (ten years ago)
Not in general, but on the Numbers it's almost an homage
― I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Friday, 20 May 2016 18:11 (ten years ago)
I still don't really hear it... the Led Zeppelin comparison sounds closer to the mark, IMO.
― Turrican, Friday, 20 May 2016 18:25 (ten years ago)
Oh, I def do,more a JC Vannier one, but.
― Mark G, Friday, 20 May 2016 18:31 (ten years ago)
"Enlightenment is like the moon reflected on the water. The moon does not get wet, nor is the water broken. Although its light is wide and great, The moon is reflected even in a puddle an inch wide. The whole moon and the entire sky Are reflected in one dewdrop on the grass. Dogen"
― linee, Friday, 20 May 2016 18:46 (ten years ago)
This seems to be a rather solid album. I am just in the middle of my first listen. What kind of surprises me is the relaxedness. Nice late night music. Cool and not depressive at all.
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 20 May 2016 19:18 (ten years ago)
xpost - Yeah, I was also reading some sort of Buddhist reference in the title. Would also be consistent with the various Buddhism allusions in TKOL.
― doug watson, Friday, 20 May 2016 21:12 (ten years ago)
http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/radiohead-a-moon-shaped-pool.471923/
lot of people complaining about the lack of dynamic range (DR) on the album, poor sound quality (SQ) etc. the SH forum is insane, btw..
is it true that AMSP sounds best on Mac desktop speakers?
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Friday, 20 May 2016 23:40 (ten years ago)
No no no strings for The Numbers are a Curtis hommage:
http://youtu.be/tE1K-hdRvmI
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 21 May 2016 00:10 (ten years ago)
There is very little dynamic range but this is Radiohead, they've not been concerned with that or traditional sound quality for 20+ years.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 21 May 2016 05:25 (ten years ago)
Besides Melody Nelson, are there other Jean-Claude Vannier records that have strings that sound like this?
― droit au butt (Euler), Saturday, 21 May 2016 06:23 (ten years ago)
I definitely get a soul-y vibe from The Numbers strings too, maybe like something from an Etta James song.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Saturday, 21 May 2016 11:19 (ten years ago)
xpost look around for Andy Votel's "Histoire De Melody Vannier" mix. It's a great introduction to Vannier's expansive arranging work in the '60s and '70s. Amazing arabesque string arrangements on tons of French pop records.
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 21 May 2016 12:09 (ten years ago)
Voila!
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 21 May 2016 12:13 (ten years ago)
Dynamic range is about a lot more than just production and mastering and, with the exception of the occasional swell of the strings, these just aren't songs with a great deal of dynamics full stop. OK Computer is about as compressed a record as any in their catalogue and it has WAY more in the way of dynamics than AMSP, which mostly drifts along in a haze. That's definitely a conscious aesthetic decision by the band though.
There's definitely a sag in this in the second quarter - Desert Island Disk and Ful Stop don't hold my interest at all, but there are so many great harmonic and textural shifts in the arrangements on the second half. The run from Identikit through to Present Tense is my favourite section now.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 21 May 2016 12:25 (ten years ago)
yeah i don't think this album would work in the same way if it were full of loud and quiet bits. it's a sustained piece from beginning to end in that respect
― TARANTINO! (dog latin), Saturday, 21 May 2016 12:33 (ten years ago)
whoa thanks Captain Jay Vee !
― droit au butt (Euler), Saturday, 21 May 2016 16:01 (ten years ago)
My pleasure!
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 21 May 2016 18:28 (ten years ago)
My ranking:
Decks DarkDaydreamingTinker Tailor...Ful StopThe NumbersBurn the WitchTrue Love WaitsPresent TenseDesert Island DiskIdentikitGlass Eyes
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 26 May 2016 14:35 (ten years ago)
i wonder why they haven't played Glass Eyes yet
― flappy bird, Thursday, 26 May 2016 15:49 (ten years ago)
Cos it's the worst one?
I like the instrumention, but the vox so mopey.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 26 May 2016 16:16 (ten years ago)