The second half of this is definitely more "adventurous" sonically but I dunno if that makes it any better?
This reminds me of Take Care in that there's aspects of a few beats that I like, but they still have this overall distant feeling that doesn't connect, "9" being a good example. "Hype"/"Grammys"-style shout flow still goofy imo.
Dude is the reverse of certain other rappers I like who are eccentric/difficult-to-defend in some sense, he seems pretty normal & some of the criticism I see focusing on his persona I think is off-base, just never been sold on him as a rapper or his production aesthetic, the latter of which seems to get little criticism
― nova, Monday, 9 May 2016 07:36 (eight years ago) link
Jesus Christ put this thing on 5 seconds in he's sadsack whining that his friends don't call him pick up the phone be an adult dipshit
― rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 13 May 2016 12:39 (eight years ago) link
Those aren't his friends. He's whining about how his ex-girlfriends who said they'd be his friends after the break up aren't calling him. lol
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 13 May 2016 14:08 (eight years ago) link
friends, how many of us have them
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 13 May 2016 14:10 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOEDtqdbWAg
― johnny crunch, Friday, 13 May 2016 14:39 (eight years ago) link
"this makes me part of the problem, I know, but no artist makes me feel old, decrepit and out of touch so much as drake. and he's older than me even."
that reads suspiciously like something drake would say. 'why you trying to make me feel old... and you aint even older than me, i know...'
― StillAdvance, Friday, 13 May 2016 14:44 (eight years ago) link
He's whining about how his ex-girlfriends who said they'd be his friends after the break up aren't calling him. lol
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, May 13, 2016 2:08 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lmao this is even worse
― cher guevara (lex pretend), Friday, 13 May 2016 15:22 (eight years ago) link
lol StillAdvance
― de l'asshole (flopson), Friday, 13 May 2016 15:38 (eight years ago) link
this makes me part of the problem, I know, but no artist makes me feel old, decrepit and out of touch so much as drake.
i have exactly this, the fact of him being a cool guy who the cool kids like is far beyond my comprehension
― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Friday, 13 May 2016 16:54 (eight years ago) link
I just learned this morning from an article in FACT, which referred to Larry Graham as "Drake's Uncle," that Larry Graham is Drake's uncle.
WTF mind blown
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 16 May 2016 13:37 (eight years ago) link
^^Teenie Hodges is his other uncle. And his pops played drums for Jerry Lee Lewis.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 16 May 2016 14:18 (eight years ago) link
industry plant
― ANU (sisilafami), Monday, 16 May 2016 14:43 (eight years ago) link
Or a gifted musician from a family of gifted musicians. Your choice.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 16 May 2016 15:33 (eight years ago) link
i love the partynextdoor song on this
― de l'asshole (flopson), Monday, 16 May 2016 15:43 (eight years ago) link
http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/index.php?topic=5151329.0
Looks like the CD edition of this is changed and edited down for time. There's literally no reason to do this when this album would be pretty much a textbook double album candidate if it wasn't crafted specifically for streaming.
I would say "well shit, to get it under 80 minutes, all they had to do was take off Hotline Bling, it is demarcated as a bonus track after all", but I know exactly why they didn't do that
― MrExplorer, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 07:24 (eight years ago) link
Surprised there's not more love for "one dance".So good. This will be my summer jam !
― AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 20:52 (eight years ago) link
it had its week
― da vinci beaver testicles (contenderizer), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 21:02 (eight years ago) link
One Dance is perfect.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 21:07 (eight years ago) link
like what someone else said whenever I hear it I just want to put on the Kyla song
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 21:09 (eight years ago) link
― rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, May 13, 2016 7:39 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, May 13, 2016 9:08 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
advice still applicable
― rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 21:11 (eight years ago) link
When he did "Hype" on SNL I was surprised he didn't transition into a ballad after the first verse
That song really displays the issues that are still there with his rapping, this over-rehearsed, every syllable precisely mapped out deal. It starts ok and the transition into the hook works but that's it.
― nova, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 02:53 (eight years ago) link
crikey this really died a death on here quickly huh. i think Feel No Ways is his best ever song; i didn't notice it at first but it's a wonderful thing.
― piscesx, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 16:42 (seven years ago) link
i was talking to my brother about Views today, I said Drake took a massive L with it, then he reminded me it was #1 on Billboard for 13 weeks straight
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 16:55 (seven years ago) link
Yeah really depends on the measure you use. As an album it was a failure, but as a financially successful mass... mission accomplished.
Gotta believe this album will mute a lot of the excitement for the next one, though, so his career may still suffer for its mediocrity down the line
― Evan R, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 17:01 (seven years ago) link
i really like my edit of this that cuts out 1/3 of the songs
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 27 September 2016 17:27 (seven years ago) link
Do you have a link? I do remember good songs being in there, but they're packaged with so much redundant emptiness I haven't had the energy to sift them out
― Evan R, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 17:45 (seven years ago) link
I also really, really hate the singles on this album ("Too Good" exempted, if that even counts). NWTS felt like an over-padded disappointment initially, too, but it had the knockout singles to keep me coming back enough for the rest to grow on me
― Evan R, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 17:47 (seven years ago) link
basically i just flat cut out anything that doesn't have at least a tangential connection to R&B
u with me?feel no waysweston road flowsredemptionwith youfaithfulcontrollaone dancechild's playtoo goodfire & desirehotline bling
you could still trim some fat there but this was basically my quick way of making the album listenable
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 27 September 2016 17:50 (seven years ago) link
i kinda count summer 16 & 4pm in Calabasas as Views tracks and among the best of this whole batch
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 18:00 (seven years ago) link
― flappy bird, Tuesday, September 27, 2016 11:55 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Evan R, Tuesday, September 27, 2016 12:01 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
def a new jersey
― Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 18:04 (seven years ago) link
yeah biggest New Jersey since Born This Way I'd bet
― Evan R, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 18:09 (seven years ago) link
downtown wippin on the wadio
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 18:30 (seven years ago) link
'too good' is the definitive drake song imo
nothing about it on paper is objectionable, together/apart duet, muted/nullified demeanour, lovely melody, all classic all adds up... except him, in his purest form, at his nauseating snide hostile manipulative insincere paternalist weasel worst
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 18:35 (seven years ago) link
j0rd otm, this album is totally salvageable just too many songs on it
― flopson, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 18:46 (seven years ago) link
first album to top a billion streams.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 20:28 (seven years ago) link
It's the first album to top 1 billion streams on Apple Music, other albums have done it on Spotify (Lean On is nearly there on its own)
― I know hoes that know Ali Farka Toure (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 20:35 (seven years ago) link
I think the length of the album is a big reason why the album has racked up as many streams as it has--in the new economy, more tracks = more streams.
― I know hoes that know Ali Farka Toure (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 20:38 (seven years ago) link
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, September 27, 2016 3:28 PM (forty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
heard Drake bought a new 75 inch TV with the earnings
― Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 21:16 (seven years ago) link
It would amuse Don 'n' Glenn
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 21:17 (seven years ago) link
The string outro on "Feel No Ways" is nice. "Hold On, We're Going Home" still his only timeless song imo.
"nothing about it on paper is objectionable, together/apart duet, muted/nullified demeanour, lovely melody, all classic all adds up... except him, in his purest form, at his nauseating snide hostile manipulative insincere paternalist weasel worst"
I don't get this from "Too Good" at all, it seems pretty genuine.
― nova, Sunday, 2 October 2016 05:11 (seven years ago) link
― I know hoes that know Ali Farka Toure (voodoo chili), Tuesday, September 27, 2016 4:38 PM (five days ago) Bookmark
well people can press stop
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 2 October 2016 06:25 (seven years ago) link
I guess Drake was unable to reach Young Thug for "Fake Love" and so thought he'd have a go at the chorus himself
― niels, Monday, 31 October 2016 20:38 (seven years ago) link
awkward patois on No Long Talk
― niels, Thursday, 30 March 2017 13:05 (seven years ago) link
wow on quite a few tracks
the having a hard time adjusting to fame trope is p tired by now
― niels, Thursday, 30 March 2017 13:16 (seven years ago) link
i fuck with passionfruit tbh
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 30 March 2017 14:25 (seven years ago) link
same
His best album since Take Care if I ignore him. The guests and samples are OK to excellent.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 March 2017 14:26 (seven years ago) link
Want to say VIEWS would be a great album if it was cut down to 10 tracks and 40 minutes, but upon revisiting it, I think it would just be pretty good. The dancehall songs are the only ones that feel like expansions on his style, the rest feel like retreads. I like "Feel No Ways" a lot, but can't shake the fact that it sounds like the bitter sequel to "Hold on We're Going Home" (although I wouldn't be totally opposed to Drake further exploring his chillwave side...). Also, the sequencing is terrible. The title track would be a decent closer if the album itself wasn't so exhausting.
Drake shocked me by essentially admitting VIEWS was disappointing artistically ("I was an angry youth when i was writing Views/Seen a side of myself that I never knew" is most direction admission we're going to get) and pivoted with More Life, reestablishing himself critically and further cementing his status as a commercial force. VIEWS will not be his New Jersey.
For what it's worth, here's my ideal VIEWS tracklist:
9U With Me? Feel No WaysHypeControllaOne DanceHotline BlingToo GoodChilds PlayViews
― Handsome Bookor, Thursday, 30 March 2017 14:46 (seven years ago) link
Views can't be a New Jersey because Hotline Bling is his definitive track imo.
― gospodin simmel, Thursday, 30 March 2017 17:49 (seven years ago) link
― gospodin simmel, Thursday, March 30, 2017 10:49 AM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah this is true
― gimp in wankouver (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 30 March 2017 17:52 (seven years ago) link
Hotline Bling was released 9 months before Views and was only tacked on to juice the streams count
― neva missa lost, wednesday nights on abc (voodoo chili), Thursday, 30 March 2017 18:03 (seven years ago) link