Lily Allen - This summers biggest racist?

Message Bookmarked

Bookmark Removed

Not all messages are displayed: show all messages (1467 of them)

Lex = spot on. In America, this stuff reads as idie-pop for uptight Anglophiles who sneer at "mainstream taste." Belle & Sebastian with beats.

Still, it's pretty damn great, for what it is. Funny, nasty, contrived and really quite charming.

But DAMN that Stylus review is some crazy shit. A frothing bag of displaced hostilities. Hope dude's got some kids to beat, or he might end up hurting someone...

― fuckfuckingfuckedfucker (fuckfuckingfuckedfucker), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

I've enjoyed this album for a good 3 weeks, but alas as expected I've already lost interest. these types of albums never seen to have any longetivity

― boonah (boonah), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe we should stop liking the music in public and Dom 'n Lex will stop hating on her so much? (Maybe they're like our Picture Of Dorian Gray, hating her more every time we say we find music quite catchy & fun? Except they're not hanging in our attic like they should - like the picture is in the book, I mean, er, analogy needs more work)

So yeah, she sucks.

― StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

I say, Esteban OTM.

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 07:13 (nineteen years ago)

With shock, I heard her blasting from speakers on the street here in Moscow. She is everywhere.

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 08:09 (nineteen years ago)

lovely

"... even if only for one weekend"

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 08:32 (nineteen years ago)

I love this album, and I'm totally rockist. Make of that what you will.

― wogan lenin (dog latin), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 09:14 (nineteen years ago)

the beginning of "little things" / "littlest things" sounds like karma police, btw

: )

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 10:13 (nineteen years ago)

The line that always gets me is "you'd take me shopping / and all we'd buy is trainers / as if we needed anything to entertain us"...

Tear googles ahoy.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 10:20 (nineteen years ago)

yeh, it's one of those "ambushed by unexpected emotion" tracks innit?

The beginning of it reminds me of a different song from Karma Police -some 70's ballad I can't put my finger on.

― wogan lenin (dog latin), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 10:27 (nineteen years ago)

'sexy sadie'

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 10:30 (nineteen years ago)

no, not sexy sadie.

shame for you is obviously "no, no, no" by dawn penn. what with this and the fucking paris hilton track is it another 1993-style Reggae-lite revival?

― wogan lenin (dog latin), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 10:35 (nineteen years ago)

not really by dawn penn, dog latin!

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 10:36 (nineteen years ago)

oh yeh? who did it first?

the song i'm thinking of is maybe that "where do you go to my lovely?" or something from that era.

― wogan lenin (dog latin), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 11:00 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:b27ibka9hakz

uh, i think it was Dawn Penn who did No, No, No. AllMusic seems to think so.

― wogan lenin (dog latin), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 11:03 (nineteen years ago)

my colleague compared her to a "watered-down version of Pauline Black" from the Selecter, which I thought was a bit weird.

― wogan lenin (dog latin), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 11:10 (nineteen years ago)

i thought that song sounds like the start of Cat Stevens' Wild World..

― Shooz (shooz), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 11:55 (nineteen years ago)

The recent hit was by Dawn Penn.

The original was by Dawn Penn.

k'poing.

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 12:19 (nineteen years ago)

well i never.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 12:20 (nineteen years ago)

(RC might be thinking of the version by KC White that was done I think a few years after the original)

― todd (todd), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

i was thinking of the one one 'x00% dynamite', yerp.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

I like the idea that if I released a song about helping zombie Hitler rape a retarded Palestinian baby I would have a far shorter ILM thread devoted to me than if I went to a particular school and talked a particular way and released a gentle, inoffensive to the point of being unnoticable, song. Then I would get 1000 answers.

Or maybe I'm missing something.

― Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

Oh right, the #1 hit thing. Never mind.

― Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

The Keith Allen thing doesn't help

― Sploshette Moxy (Dada), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 13:39 (nineteen years ago)

Nor does the video.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

it's the 'look ma, no PR' bullshit.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

It's just bullshit.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 13:41 (nineteen years ago)

it's the 'look ma, no PR' bullshit.

isn't it the 'look ma (the famous film producer), no PR' bullshit?

― Sploshette Moxy (Dada), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

I still have no fucking idea who Keith Allen is (he is fat? And affluent? Or something?), and bullshit PR tactics aren't exactly unique to her. The whole thing makes me feel either too old or too young, I can't figure out which.

In the end I'm assuming it all comes down to Lily seeming like a peer and this opening her up to a whole bunch of criticisms that wouldn't normally be applied to anyone else (as happened with the Strokes) but jeeeez.

― Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

Keith Allen co-wrote a couple of football songs in the nineties which sold quite well.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

A peer? Are your parents famous media people too?

― Sploshette Moxy (Dada), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

Please, my parents weren't modeling agency owners and I didn't go to private school but I still recognized that I was in roughly the same social group as the Strokes for all intents and purposes (white college-educated kids with parents to fall back on, living in New York and being artsy) and that the fact that I had been around people like that for a certain portion of my life allowed me to assume certain things about them that I couldn't about, say, Master P. Familiarity breeds you-know-what.

― Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

if only Lily would team up with her Dad for a reworking of 'Tickle Tune' we could have the best Christmas #1 ever and credibility restored.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

TS: Giles Coren vs AA Gill (20 new answers)

― Sploshette Moxy (Dada), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

TS: Victoria Coren vs Nicola Formby (1679 new answers)

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

the strokes also had shitty music.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

TS: Roddy McMillan vs Andy McEvoy (-2 new answers)

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

Has anybody noticed the difference between the album and the myspace versions of "Smile"? I like the latter a lot more and I don't know where else I can find it. Any info?

The album and singles all suck because the songs have been rerecorded to avoid sampling lawsuits!! I don't think the MySpace versions have been commercially released in any form. Even the original limited-edition 7" of "LDN"/"Knock 'Em Out" is re-recorded! And not only does it not contain the "AIDS! AIDS! I've got AIDS!" bit, it fades out right after "I gotta go. My house is on fire." It doesn't even get to "I've got syphilus" before it fades out completely!! Not to mention the fact that the production on the re-recorded tracks is too damn shiny. It sounds like a fucking ABBA record! I want my Lily Allen to sound all lo-fi, like they're being played on the very same 1980s old-school boombox that Lily's jamming to on the album cover. You can't listen to no impeccably-produced pop songs on a boombox like that!!

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

Yes but EMI can't make any money out of lo-fi being played on a 1980s old-school boombox, see Go! Team QED.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

Word!

― Sploshette Moxy (Dada), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:16 (nineteen years ago)

also lo-fi reggaei-lite with AIDS references sounds EVEN WORSE than what she actually released.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, at least Typically Tropical didn't put any AIDS references in "Barbados."

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

High. The only thing that could possibly be better than lo-fi reggae-lite would be lo-fi reggae-lite with AIDS references.

― fuckfuckingfuckedfucker (fuckfuckingfuckedfucker), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

i haven't criticised lallen on class grounds at all (though dom and marcello have). to be honest the mockney accent is massively grating to me, but i don't give a shit about her realness (i contend that her realness - in the sense that she writes the songs herself and so on, rather than she's lived the life herself - is more important to those who like her). i'm well aware that if i liked the music i'd forgove most of it in a heartbeat (i like MIA innit). but her MUSIC SOUNDS TERRIBLE and the lyrics mostly make me cringe.

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

No! Her music is great and the lyrics are funny!

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

You're mixing "her" up with Billy Connolly.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

"You can't knock em out. You can't walk away.
Try desperately to think of the politest way to say,
'Just get out my face. Just leave me alone.
And no you cant have me number. Cause I lost my phone.'"

Come on. That's a GREAT verse!!

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

It doesn't scan.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

it's not very good.

tbh NEITHER IS PARIS HILTON

but it's just very, very underwhelming.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

Are you serious? (xxpost) LOL

― Sploshette Moxy (Dada), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

Skipping 1367 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.