pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

I always thought it'd be funny if someone cut his hands off so that when he gesticulated it would just be these bloody stumps splattering blood on his walls.

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metacritic is prob more popular and influential in a scores-to-purchases-ratio sense than p4k or fantano but i'm not sure if that means we should dissect its every move

metacritic is so fucked too

i met someone irl recently who seems to legit like fantano (unsurprisingly his main determinant for whether to check out music is -- openly -- whether it's been well-reviewed... for SOME REASON he started listening to contemporary rap for the first time about two years ago). he says he often reads what has been written about albums on wikipedia before listening also.

so basically

(album) received generally (positive/mixed/(almost-never-)negative) reviews from contemporary music critics. ((writer) of (publication) praised the (thing), writing (quote).) x n

is the way a probably-not-insignicifant number of "passionate millennial males" are deciding whether to listen to music now

oh i forgot to include the obligatory sentence about its metacritic score in my wikipedia "critical reception" section formula, sorry. it should always be the second sentence in the section fyi.

hey there, not saying that fantano is necessary to any discourse or that his opinions are law, just that he often likes good stuff regardless of its pitchfork cachet

pitchfork is manifestly a greater force for cultural arbitration (and thus evil) than fantano but ilx treats its opinion like a fucking holy book sometimes

fantano is easier to pick on coz he's a wacky dude who makes wacky youtube videos and so ilx picks on him in lieu of trying and failing to pick on pitchfork which it can't pick on because it's in fealty to it

mercifully free of this complex i say fuck pitchfork and fuck what it says, forever

except for when it employs brad or the other ilx people who sometimes write for it *crosses self*

Fuck Complex too, now that you mention.

ilx treats its opinion like a fucking holy book sometimes

this is such trash dude

verily I cast thee out

like you are posting in a thread called "pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series)" created almost a decade ago xp

imago thinking fantano has great taste is definitely ... well its not surprising, thats for sure

this thread is the fond mockery of the obsessed and the besotted

"passionate millennial males"

https://www.reddit.com/r/indieheads/top/?sort=top&t=month

almost a decade ago xp

also i was wrong, more than a decade! like 15 years ago!

on our year-end polls, each album and track's pazz and jop placement is announced...and then its pitchfork placement too. no other publication receives this privilege. of course there are countless other examples of pitchfork's centrality to the discourse

idk aren't there a lot of p4k staffers past & present who post here

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imago thinking fantano has great taste is definitely ... well its not surprising, thats for sure

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, May 4, 2016 8:25 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

known for your critical rigour, you have extrapolated 'great' from 'often likes good stuff' and are surely bound to strike again

this is an "ignore LJ" moment folks

too true, apparently he only got a 7.6

lol that should have been 5.1

ilx

http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/midas/92f094f881cb805fa168a4defeabd6ad/201527734/lead10-2016-acura-ilx-fd.jpg

LOLJ

I would bet there is a better good-review-to-purchased-album ratio from a Needle Drop than Best New Music at this point

literally no-one in the biz would take a needle drop absolute rave over a pitchfork 8.0

I don't think festival bookers or whoever have picked up on it yet

Simply cannot believe people in THE BIZ are out of touch! Someone brew some coffee and call Lefsetz, we're gonna have an all-nighter!

Ian Cohen's ANOHNI tweets

I wish blocking somebody extended to hearing about them on Facebook, group chat, irl conversation, not to mention their livelihood

Whatever room that man is in he is the worst man in it

he contrasted it with an emo album about the awesome overwhelming organizational powers of hetero love which is unfortunate

(meaning the hotelier's goodness)

he awesome overwhelming organizational powers of hetero love

how is that any different from most emo

i would totally buy an album about the overwhelming organizational powers of hotelier love.

how is that any different from most emo

most emo is extremely bitter about the failures of straight love!

That's also really interesting to see what looks like a very aggressive rebrand of Pitchfork to include more R&B and Datpiff rap mixtapes instead of like reviewing 300 Burger Records clones and letting Grayson and Marc talk about Hair Police or w/e. All of which means more POC, more women, more LGBT — all unquestionably awesome and great from a purely ideological and philosophical standpoint that I'm sure 100% of ILX (including myself) would laud.

I wish Pitchfork wrote about Hair Police.

how is that any different from most emo

most emo is extremely bitter about the failures of straight love!

― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson),

cynic = failed romantic, etc

straight love drives like THIS. and gay love drives like THIS. is what i think when i see "straight love". i've watched too many simpsons.

lol

One makes babies and the other makes 9/11

I wish Pitchfork wrote about Hair Police.

they come to me in my hair

why are all the references to Scientist in the past tense, dude is still alive:
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/21810-junjo-presents-wins-the-world-cup/

well I guess it's one reference "was a master of the form". He's still a master of the form!

I feel like what's happening to P4K now is roughly analogous to the way Melody Maker went down. Less outsidery stuff, short form winning out over long form, a lot of writers who'd been there for a while suddenly disappearing or marginalized, ham-fisted attempts to court audiences outside their regular demo. I see why it's being done of course, it's just not all that interesting to me.

short form winning out over long form

curious narrative derived from a site that started out publishing 600-ish word reviews and still publishes 600-ish word reviews. like, i know i'm a contributor but i'm not exactly here to defend the site, i just don't see this (or see it in a way that isn't also echoed in 100 percent of the rest of the internet)

a lot of writers who'd been there for a while suddenly disappearing or marginalized

several contributors followed jess hopp to mtv news

Well, if you open up the site the first thing you see at the top of the page are three short form news stories. There are less album reviews being published, or they've been bumped to the Saturday graveyard. The Out Door is gone. The Pitch and track reviews are somehow not very easy to find. There are boxes all over the homepage full of short news stories. That's clearly the emphasis now.

junjo lawes was the king of 1982! love him soooooo much.

my friend tippa does gigs with scientist. very alive and very well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvKX64DHmqI

ALSO TIPPA'S NEW ALBUM ON STONES THROW IS REALLY GOOD PITCHFORK YOU SHOULD REVIEW IT. pitchfork lurks here, right? here's tippa giving me my copy.

https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13001289_10154700574167137_1744310443394894160_n.jpg?oh=911b102d6928f91564fdacb9227d4a97&oe=57A2F355

Simply cannot believe people in THE BIZ are out of touch! Someone brew some coffee and call Lefsetz, we're gonna have an all-nighter!

lol these clueless squares actually know a fuckload more about actually making money than, say, yrself (or me, mind)

needledrop review = hey cool! somebody might maybe come to a show and buy merch!
pitchfork review = hey cool! money!

I feel like what's happening to P4K now is roughly analogous to the way Melody Maker went down. Less outsidery stuff, short form winning out over long form, a lot of writers who'd been there for a while suddenly disappearing or marginalized, ham-fisted attempts to court audiences outside their regular demo. I see why it's being done of course, it's just not all that interesting to me.

― Position Position, Thursday, May 5, 2016 12:13 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

idk if 2012 counts as "been there for a while" (and I still write for them, plan to keep writing for them) but I would say the fluctuation, movement and disappearance of writers is more due to a) larger media trends and b) events in writers' personal lives.